You know people who have their permit in their hand????
No, sorry, I worded that poorly. I should have said I learned of people who had applied after me get the approval of their application before me.
I don't think anyone has one in hand yet.
You know people who have their permit in their hand????
Who knows what will happen in 5 years. Worry about it then.We have a choice for now, at least.
I'll feel better once other folks who didn't submit fingerprints get an approval.
I also expect that it won't be optional when it's time to renew.
The Illinois State Police Department is investigating a computer glitch that’s putting some concealed carry applicant information in the wrong hands. When some applicants log in to the website, they’re finding another person’s photo, address, and phone number, along with other personal information. A Tazewell County man is dealing with this firsthand.
Instead of his information, Dustin sees a 62-year-old man from Shipman, Ill. He said, “"It was basically all of their pertinent information minus the credit card number they paid for it with."
For security reasons, we’re not disclosing this man’s name. But on what is supposed to be Dustin’s secure webpage is another man’s CDL License number, his FOID card number, his birth date and address history for the last 10 years.
Holzwarth said, “It happens every time I login. It's the same guy. Every single time. It's not me. And I have all of his information.”
A licensee under this Act shall not knowingly carry a firearm...
Trent - what do you think this phrase means?
does it matter if the firearm is loaded?
does it matter if the firearm is cased?
does it matter if it is a handgun or a long gun?
does it only apply to licensees?
does the phrase "under this act" make it mean that a licensee shall not carry a loaded, uncased, and concealed handgun...?
Section 65. Prohibited areas.
(a) A licensee under this Act shall not knowingly carry a firearm on or into:
"Licensee" means a person issued a license to carry a concealed handgun.
Afraid they are going to change their mind?? Well, this IS Illinois, but I don't think you are going to get closer to carry by waiting. Or are you going to file the paper form?
How do you square that interpretation with what the FCCA actually says?"Carry" and "transport" are two distinctly different modes as it related to having a firearm in your possession in IL.
The FCCL act only applies to "carry" of a handgun.
If a firearm is unloaded and in a "case" it is not being "carried", it is being "transported".
This differentiation was discussed in the days leading up to the passage of the FCCL act on the floor of the IL legislature.
It is completely consistent with all of the IL case law, including the findings of the IL Supreme Court.
If you are in possession of a loaded, uncased handgun, you are in fact "carrying" that firearm. You need to comply with the provisions of the FCCL law.
If you are in possession of an unloaded, "cased" firearm, you are in fact "transporting" that firearm and you need to comply with the provisions of the UUW law.
Section 10.
...
(g) A licensee shall possess a license at all times the
licensee carries a concealed firearm except:
...
(3) when the handgun is broken down in a
non-functioning state, is not immediately accessible, or
is unloaded and enclosed in a case.
Section 90. Preemption.
The regulation, licensing, possession, registration, and
transportation of handguns and ammunition for handguns by
licensees are exclusive powers and functions of the State.
Section 10
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(c)...A license shall permit the licensee to:
(1) carry a loaded or unloaded concealed firearm, fully
concealed or partially concealed, on or about his or her
person; and
pretty much the way i see it as well.
I can understand why you were banned from IllinoisCarry.
believing the law means what it actually says is a banning offense there.
"Carry" and "transport" are two distinctly different modes as it related to having a firearm in your possession in IL.
The FCCL act only applies to "carry" of a handgun.
If a firearm is unloaded and in a "case" it is not being "carried", it is being "transported".
This differentiation was discussed in the days leading up to the passage of the FCCL act on the floor of the IL legislature.
It is completely consistent with all of the IL case law, including the findings of the IL Supreme Court.
If you are in possession of a loaded, uncased handgun, you are in fact "carrying" that firearm. You need to comply with the provisions of the FCCL law.
If you are in possession of an unloaded, "cased" firearm, you are in fact "transporting" that firearm and you need to comply with the provisions of the UUW law.
(c) A license shall be valid throughout the State for a
period of 5 years from the date of issuance. A license shall
permit the licensee to:
(1) carry a loaded or unloaded concealed firearm, fully
concealed or partially concealed, on or about his or her
person; and
(2) keep or carry a loaded or unloaded concealed
firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle.
If you carry an UNLOADED CASED firearm in to a School or other prohibited place, prepare to spend time in jail. You aren't TRANSPORTING a firearm at that point. You are CARRYING it.
I tried logging on to the ISP website to check the status of my application and discovered I can't access the website. All I get is, " Please wait while you are authenticated to the server". Anyone else having this problem?