That happens in other situations too. There are states that allow handgun carry at the age of 18. Some open, some open or concealed. However, the federal government says you cannot buy pistol ammo until you are 21. Good thing an 18 year old can buy a pistol caliber carbine...
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That happens in other situations too. There are states that allow handgun carry at the age of 18. Some open, some open or concealed. However, the federal government says you cannot buy pistol ammo until you are 21. Good thing an 18 year old can buy a pistol caliber carbine...
As long as you reside outside of IL, you don't need a FOID. I have visited/went shooting up there several times and could purchase ammo with my TX DL, when my family members with expired FOID cards could not! Very stupid law, tax-farming at it's finest,
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Yeah, my wife's from southern Illinois and when we go down I usually take a few guns so her father and I can go shooting. If I run out of reloads I'll go to store "x" and place ammo on the counter - "FOID card please". Me: No, I live in Missouri......a free state".
20 minutes later after the manager explains things (sometimes) I walk out with my ammo.
Why do I love buying ammo (and guns) in Illinois so much? I feel like a kid showing-off.
WOW!!!!! It's hard for me to believe that our freedoms are being lost at such an alarming rate. Having to show ID to buy ammo. Unbelievable, in my state we can buy any ammo, components etc just by going to the store and buying it just like buying a loaf of bread.These comments scare the ---- out of me!!!!!!!
mg.mikael
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I know the same feeling when I go to another state and buy ammo. All they ask to see at the check-out is a form of ID verifying my age. What a fantastic feeling when all they care about is your age, not whether or not you have a FOID and all that other Illinois hassle.
Neo-Luddite
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Hey, JUST a friendly FYI to 'Ex-Pats' of IL---you CAN NOT lawfully be a non-resident of Illinois AND still have a FOID card any more than you could lawfully have an IL DL.
Before I get jumped on LOTS of people do it---the things are good now for 10 years after all or they renew at their relatives address and no one really KNOWS at the checkout counter that one CAN NOT do so.
That said----I would ---never ever, EVER---try something 'cutesy' involving the IL DNR and trying to get, say, a deer tag for the resident price while lawfully being a non-resident. Actual gun purchases would be a not-so-good idea either (esp. if a pistol). And yeh, sure---it would smooth the way for a box of shells in a pinch.
Just mentioning. My late Uncle (who lived in Indy) had an IL FOID for thirty years at my Grandma's address across the line
Before I get jumped on LOTS of people do it---the things are good now for 10 years after all or they renew at their relatives address and no one really KNOWS at the checkout counter that one CAN NOT do so.
That said----I would ---never ever, EVER---try something 'cutesy' involving the IL DNR and trying to get, say, a deer tag for the resident price while lawfully being a non-resident. Actual gun purchases would be a not-so-good idea either (esp. if a pistol). And yeh, sure---it would smooth the way for a box of shells in a pinch.
Just mentioning. My late Uncle (who lived in Indy) had an IL FOID for thirty years at my Grandma's address across the line
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JFtheGR8
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Yeah, I was fully aware of the expiration date and sent in my renewal almost two months prior (I know my OP states over a month but I checked the date the check cleared and added the days from when I wrote and mailed it and that was forty seven days) . Don't jump to conclusions about someone you don't even know. The real world is where I reside by the way. I am quite surprised to see a supporter of such an anti-gun law here in this forum. So what's your excuse for advocating for such a ridiculous law? The recorded message at the ISP states that they are taking nearly 60 days to process applications and if it hadn't been that long to call back later. Their website and the application form states to call after 30 days. That's just what I did and after being on hold for over twenty minutes I explained that my check had been cashed nearly forty days ago and I did not have my FOID. The agent said he had it on his desk and would get it out as soon as he could. I had it three days later. Very strange... What if I would have done what the recorded message stated and waited sixty days to call back? Would I still be waiting? Probably so.
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JTHunter
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FWIW - near the end of July, I got the renewal notice from the State Police. I sent it off on Saturday, 7/30/11. Check cleared 8/3 and I got the new, 10 year card today, 9/9/11. I was pleasantly surprised at the turnaround.
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The one thing I do like about the FOID card is if you are a not a FFL holder and sell a firearm to a private IL citizen the FOID card does give you some piece of mind that they are not prohibited from owning firearms.
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I would have to disagree. Most people in this country do not have carry permits. CC licenses/permit holders vary by State and range from around 7% to 0% by State. Some States have their Blue cards, FOID Cards, Purchase Permits.
This is why some like to stay below the radar and transact face-2-face with individual so that they only have to show their driver's license. Not, saying that F2F with only a DL is a bad thing, though.
In my experience a large % of the individuals who list firearms for sale on a gun forum for a face to face sale possesss a carry license. This could be skewed by my spending much more time on handgun centric forums/sub forums and only being personally involved in face to face sales with handguns (sold 4 that way).
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Definitely. I think the overwhelming majority of people who belong to a private club or actively participate in gun forums do have a CCW Permit whether in their home State or outside of it - if they are able to get one.
Definitely. I think the overwhelming majority of people who belong to a private club or actively participate in gun forums do have a CCW Permit whether in their home State or outside of it - if they are able to get one.
One thing I like about no longer living in Illinois is my state government in Texas doesn't hold me liable for the criminal activities of a dishonest buyer, and my state government sees an armed populace as an asset, not as a threat. I can fully understand Illinoisans fears though, if my state was rabidly anti-gun, and basically run by one corrupt family, I'd protect my butt, too!
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For me, its not just a liablity issue, I dont want it on my concious if I sold a gun to someone who normally could not buy one and then uses to victimize someone.
Even if I knew I wasnt going to be held liable I would still not want to sell a gun to a dirtbag.
I agree, but you never can tell, can you?
JFtheGR8
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I don't mind so much that it is a requirement to have one. I have sold guns face to face and it is nice to be able to ask for the buyers FOID card to make sure they are legit (at least at the time they got their card) and to keep it on record. The problem is that the ISP treat it with very little importance when it comes to processing the renewals and applications. After all it is my Second Amendment right to be able to own firearms so why do I have to put up with a delay from a state law enforcement agency? They claim a 30 day maximum turn around time and should be forced to comply with their own policy. Next time I will send it in way early just in case. I would love to move South, I'm partial to Alabama, but my wife has a very good job with big yellow and probably wouldn't get paid anywhere near what she is making unless it was a transfer to another facility.
I left IL at the age of 18 20+ years ago, and haven't regretted it. Even at that young age I realized that Springfield answers to Chicago, and the rest of the state can go hang.
But I still have family in IL (around the St. Louis east-metro), and regularly hear them complain about delayed FOIDs.
Just another example of how gun-unfriendly politicians (and we all know who's the new "Hizzoner-the-Mayor" in the Windy City, and his stance on firearms) can end-run the Constitution and the Supreme Court "by administrative procedure."
But I still have family in IL (around the St. Louis east-metro), and regularly hear them complain about delayed FOIDs.
Just another example of how gun-unfriendly politicians (and we all know who's the new "Hizzoner-the-Mayor" in the Windy City, and his stance on firearms) can end-run the Constitution and the Supreme Court "by administrative procedure."
If you can pass the background check to buy the gun, you ought to be able to carry it and buy ammo for it without some stupid card. I know it's easy for me to say but, if all the folks in oppressed states could pack their bags and take their revenue with them, they'd be better off and the state might wake up. That would be a LOT of doolars leaving.
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and YOU are that someone - since you live there, it bothers you to the point of calling it unconstitutional, why aren't YOU filing the suit?
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Neo-Luddite
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The amazing thing from a practical point is that the cards now use (almost 100% of the time) the aplicants digital DL photo despite the fact that the state *STILL* requires a hard-copy form and polaroid-type photo be included---which someone then proceeds to discard. In other words, the efficiency of the process SHOULD be better as it is now just a data entry/hit print ID making operation.
Just wait--the law requires that the ISP issue the FOID. The closest we've to a CCW issue would have County CLEO's/staff (Sheriff in IL) be the issuing authority. So perhaps ONE day I can have my FFL,FOID, IL CCW permit (plus my dept. creds which added unto the aformentioned REALLY muddy the waters if anyone cares enough to worry).
It's easy to forget, ALL of this is TEMPORARY and CAN BE FIXED. It is happening slowly and the tide (YES started by King Richard the 1st way back in the late 60's) may be reversing at long last.
I'm trying to be an optomist--it's not in my nature.
Just wait--the law requires that the ISP issue the FOID. The closest we've to a CCW issue would have County CLEO's/staff (Sheriff in IL) be the issuing authority. So perhaps ONE day I can have my FFL,FOID, IL CCW permit (plus my dept. creds which added unto the aformentioned REALLY muddy the waters if anyone cares enough to worry).
It's easy to forget, ALL of this is TEMPORARY and CAN BE FIXED. It is happening slowly and the tide (YES started by King Richard the 1st way back in the late 60's) may be reversing at long last.
I'm trying to be an optomist--it's not in my nature.
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Does the State Police recognize those county carry permits? I have a cousin in the Peoria area who married a State Trooper. He told me, after seeing my carry rig in the trunk of my car, that he was not able to carry off duty. Wonder how the Troopers would react to a county permit?
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