I'm rich, at least according to the Democrats.

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I just heard John Kerry say that I am rich. He said that only the rich benefited from the "Bush Tax Cut for the Rich".

Maybe I should tell my wife we no longer have to live paycheck to paycheck. I can get my own car instead of sharing one personal vehicle between us. I can buy any gun i want at any time (since I am now rich) and i can send my boys to the same colleges that John Kerry went to. Maybe my boys will be able to study abroad in France and switzerland just like John Kerry, a man of the people.






:rolleyes:

Give me a break!

My wife and I received a tax reduction every year since the tax cut was passed. I am not rich and yes we got the benefit. Shhhh! Dont tell the Democrats. It will burst their illusion and lie.
 
I'd love to ask Kerry this in a town hall setting.

"Mr. Kerry. You have portrayed the rich as untrustworthy, greedy people who trample on the little guy in their quest for the almighty buck. You mortgaged your house for six million dollars while I couldn't get twenty- thousand out of mine.

"By all definitions, you are rich so I would like an answer to this question: If the rich are as bad as you portray them, and you are one of the rich, why should I vote for someone who, by his own admission, is an evil rich person; or do you somehow consider yourself different from the rich you have portrayed as being evil, self-serving, and greedy?"
 
Sure been a lot of changes in the sort of folks we elect to Congress. Compare a Kerry or a Kennedy with "Mr. Sam", Sam Rayburn. He was a Democrat, and his very long tenure as a Representative and as the Speaker made him one of the most powerful people in D.C. Yet, at his death his estate was $17,000.

Art
 
We must be rich, too, by Kerry's definition. Of course, Kerry's definition of "rich" is "making enough money to pay taxes instead of taking the EIC." :rolleyes:

Bush's tax cuts literally saved us from bankruptcy last year, when for several months our expenses exceeded our income by $600 to $1000/month, due to my son's heart surgery last January, and that tax credit check arrived in the nick of time. (Also, I found out to my chagrin that the "safety net" of social programs isn't available to the "rich" either.)
 
Ladies and Gents:

If I'm not mistaken, to be considered rich under Kerry's plan, you would make over $200,000 a year (far from rich in this poor boy's opinion).

tlhelmer, I mean no disrespect, but if you are living paycheck to paycheck on over $200,000 a year, you really ought to consider some lifestyle changes. Maybe hire an accountant, or a personal money management specialist.

jimpeel, I don't recall Kerry saying anything about the rich being untrustworthy or greedy. If I am mistaken, please point that out.

Calling out the wealthiest Americans to pay more taxes is just something Democrats do...kind of like babies messing up their diapers. It stinks, its messy, but at least with the baby, they grow out of it.

When will politicians finally get it? It's not about tax cuts, or tax hikes, it's about cutting spending in the first place.

Regards,

Stinger
 
Bush tax cuts put over $4000 a year + a 1200 refund in our familys coffers.

I can buy a bunch of guns for $5.2k a year.

BTW we live on way less than 200k per year.

Kerry would love to take this tax break away and redistribute it to the crackheads that elect him.
 
Stinger

I don't recall Kerry saying anything about the rich being untrustworthy or greedy. If I am mistaken, please point that out.
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You have portrayed the rich ...
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If the rich are as bad as you portray them ...
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... the rich you have portrayed ...
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por·tray
tr.v. por·trayed, por·tray·ing, por·trays
To depict or represent pictorially; make a picture of.
To depict or describe in words.
To represent dramatically, as on the stage. See Synonyms at represent.
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It is by implication that he makes the rich sound evil. He doesn't have to say "The rich are evil" to depict them as evil.
 
Jim,

That is so very mean asking Mr. Kerry to account for the rhetoric he uses each and every day. ;) :p

Stinger,

Nice try. :rolleyes:





"John Kerry has promised to take this country back from the wealthy. Who better than the guy worth $700 million to take the country back? See, he knows how the wealthy think. He can spy on them at his country club, at his place in Palm Beach, at his house in the Hamptons. He's like a mole for the working man." —Jay Leno
 
If I'm not mistaken, to be considered rich under Kerry's plan, you would make over $200,000 a year (far from rich in this poor boy's opinion).

tlhelmer, I mean no disrespect, but if you are living paycheck to paycheck on over $200,000 a year, you really ought to consider some lifestyle changes. Maybe hire an accountant, or a personal money management specialist.
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I believe the implication is that anyone getting a tax cut must be rich, not that Mr. Helmer earns $200K, as taken from the Democrats own rhetoric. I don't earn $200K, but I do get a tax cut as well.
 
J Jones got it. I dont make 200,000 a year. The point I was making is that I am not rich, but do benefit from the Bush tax cut.

Another Democrat lie.
 
Bush "cut" our income taxes but increased government spending in many areas. It's not that we aren't paying for his increases in Department of Education idiocy, his socialized medicine, and his stepped-up Aid To Dependent Dictators. It's just that we'll pay though inflation instead of taxation, so the units that we use to do our economic calculation will be distorted... thus adding many extra costs.

(Don't construe this as a pro-Kerry post; anyone who supports either of these wastrels is anti-American.)
 
I would say "Mr Kerry, why go after me? Look in the mirror pal!!!!"

I have been working for 22 years after getting my Bachelor of Sicence Electrical Engineering degree. Am I rich?

My only new car was 21 years ago. My wife and I have a 1986 and a 1997 vehicle, both bought used and both having over 100k miles. Bought first house 10 years ago. Now living in a second home, 1 hour each way from work, living paycheck to paycheck. Raise my taxes and I will have to sell.

The rich, Communist, control freak Democrats don't want anyone to be self sufficient. If they were all swimming in a giant toilet bowl, I would be jumping on the handle!
 
OK, this is going to be hard to swallow, but according to standard Democrat operating procedure you are rich.

What they do is compare you against the typical person who has been declared disabled and who gets +/- $550 per month SSD payment. Or they are comparing you against the person who dropped out of school in the sixth grade and who can only find a minimum wage job at roughly $800 per month. Or, they are comaring you against a single mother of three children of three fathers who is subsiding entirely on her children's dole.

This constituency is the core Democrat voter.

Consider that there are a whole lot of families where both husband and wife work and their combined income is about $30-50,000. These folks tend to vote more Republican in some districts and more Democrat in others, but they vote more on their ideology than on emotion. These folks are rich by the standard of the core Democrat welfare voters.

Democrats want the ideological vote but they are desperate to keep their core voters, the welfare voters who swing elections.
 
The Democrat formula

Anyone, anywhere who has anything is rich.

Anyone, anywhere who wants anything is poor.

Anything the latter wants should be taken from the former for the ongoing good of both.
 
I want more guns. Therefore I am poor, according to the demoRAT standard. Kerry promises that he will give most Americans a tax cut. I wonder what he defines as "most"? Probably about the same number of Americans are in his definition of "most" as the number of foreign leaders that have spoken to him and told him that he must win this election.
 
People hate the farm bill; but, without subsidies, farmers would gp belly up and developers would buy the land and place houses on it.

There comes a point where the land becomes more valuable as real estate than what the farmer can glean from it. That's what happened in the Downey, South Gate, etc area of Los Angeles in the fifties when the dairy farmers all moved out to the Ontario / Upland area. Now, the same thing is happening there as they are again pushed out by development.
 
Unfunded mandates on states = more state taxes and/or less services.

Larger and larger deficit = more federal taxes and/or smaller military/social security benefits/medicare benefits, etc. and/or higher interest rates on credit cards and other personal/buisness loans.
http://www.bushtax.com/
 
Bush says in his ads that Kerry will raise taxes by 900 Billion dollars. This is patently false.

Kerry will rape the military and intelligence budgets to get the funds he wants for his social programs.
 
Sen. Kerry will raise taxes on only folks making more than 200K/year by repealing 900B/year of those parts of Bush's tax cuts primarily for the wealthy. It's that simple.
 
w4rma: and that's alright with you? If so, why the arbitrary $200K figure? It wasn't more than a few years ago that the Democrats were describing those making over $78,000 as "rich." If it weren't for Bush's tax cuts, I'm sure that 78K figure would still be in play.

Class envy is a powerful weapon.
 
I've got no problem with tax cuts for the rich, even though my wife and I TOGETHER make about $42K a year. Why would i have a problem with it? Those in the higher income levels are also in the higher tax brackets. If I was paying 70% of my yearly take in taxes, I'd be mightily enraged. Thats what the "rich" are paying. UP TO....70%. At 42K, times .70, I'd be able to keep only $12,600. Yeah, I'd be mad.

DemoRATS seem to have some strange idea that economics is a zero-sum game. That in order for me to get ahead, I have to pull down someone else. That just aint true. Money makes more money. If I start to get slightly ahead, and decide to open my own business, say, building boats, what happens? I build a few boats, sell them, the .gov gets to rob me by making me pay taxes, then I need a couple other people to help build boats, the .gov gets to rob them, too. And if you live in a state other than MT or OR, the .gov gets to rob your customers by making them pay vampire tax. So the .gov gets their greedy, grubby little paws in the mix three ways. And if I hadnt been able to open that business? Then they'd only be able to rob me, not the other two victims.

Its not a pie. There isnt only so much to go around. One person getting ahead helps everyone else, too. They now have more disposable income, so they can buy more expensive food, or get another car, or a bigger TV, or a jet ski, rent some videos, go to the movies, eat at a restaurant, go to an amusement park.....Doing any of those things, the person is directly helping employ numerous other people. From the clerk at the video store, to the guy in the Mickey Mouse suit.

DemoRATs dont want people to have more disposable income. They dont want you to live any higher than subsistence level. If you're fighting to put every scrap of food on the table, you probably dont have a lot of time to get involved in making sure that the demoRATs dont win elections. And then, when the demoRATs come along with some great new social program to 'help' you, you'll be grateful (OK, maybe not anyone on here, but the majority of the sheep would be grateful). That translates into votes.

They're pure evil, but they're also sly. They know what they're doing, and how to go about it. DemoRATs are deeply rooted in communism/socialism, and their teachers showed them the value of class warfare. Now the dems are working on perfecting it.
 
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