Is this good or bad? I think Bad...

[Art Eatman]

Hmmm. Lessee. "Immature". "Childish". "Irresponsible".

Could probably add, "Does not play well with other children."

This sort of brainlessness leads an anti-gun politician to leap from his seat and cry, "We must DO SOMETHING!" So we wind up with a new anti-gun law. Yeah, it likely will be unconstitutional. So? That means that some court case is needed in challenge. IOW, a bunch of wasted $$$$$. And all because of thoughtlessness.

Not to mention the bad PR among those who vote for or against gun-control candidates.

So add, "Hurts self while playing alone."

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

I think open carry of a rifle shortened into an oversized pistol, is stupid, especially if done for shock value, or compensating for a half-roll of nickels.


qft

and to which i would add just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should or need to

 

[flor1]

You can't fix stupid.

 

[Glockman17366]

Highorder's post:

I think open carry of a rifle shortened into an oversized pistol, is stupid, especially if done for shock value, or compensating for a half-roll of nickels.

An AK is an offensive weapon, and when pressed into a defensive roll is overkill and counterproductive to RKBA.

Although I agree that the person was not using good judgement, it was a legal action and he shouldn't have been harrassed.
If this firearm is considered "overkill"...well, why not a Glock 19 with 15 rounds? Should a homeowner be allowed a 30 round magazine since 10 will suffice for home defense?
Slippery slope, folks..that kind of thing lead to the 1994 AWB and other gun control legislation.

 

[hammerklavier]

I didn't think AK-47 pistols were legal because of the fore end grip. Or is it one of those that require the $200 tax stamp?

This guy wouldn't last too long in NC

 

[danbrew]

And there you have it - gunowners can never agree upon anything.

Regardless of how you feel about the ninja tacticool wannabe (ntw) with the AK pistol, what's different about what's he doing and open carry? What's different about the guy with the shotgun at the range and the nutjob (*) at the range with a full auto AK47 "spraying and praying"? Etc., etc., etc.

Besides, with the decision making skills of the ntw, he's gonna lead a short life. Or provide justification for local law enforcement to arrest his dumb ass for something else.

(* I'm one of those nutjobs, btw)

 

[Jonah71]

Maybe I'm being a bit judgemental here......but the guy is a few beers short of a 6 pk. There's no way I would ever believe that the government (at any level) should be in the business of "testing" or deciding who is mentally competant to carry a gun. But it's nut cases and idiots like this guy who only add fuel to the fire for gun control. Sure he has the right...as he should have. But he may as well be working for those who would take away that right. His stupidity serves them best.

 

[Sam1911]

I didn't think AK-47 pistols were legal because of the fore end grip. Or is it one of those that require the $200 tax stamp?

An AK pistol is a regular "Title I" pistol (like a Glock or S&W) if it has no butt stock (or way to attach one) and does not have a vertical fore grip.

If you want to add a vertical fore grip like a Romanian AKM or a Hungarian AMD-65, you'll have a Title II "Any Other Weapon" which you must register and pay the tax stamp before you build.

If you add a butt stock to your short-barreled pistol, you're constructing a Title II "Short-Barreled Rifle" and you must register and pay the tax stamp before you build. It can have a vertical foregrip.

If, on the other hand, you wanted to disassemble your pistol, add a barrel over 16" long, and add a butt stock, you now own a regular Title I rifle, with or without a vertical fore grip. (Just an AK.) However, if you do this it is not legal to then convert it back to a pistol without registering it as an SBR. (Has to do with the odd wording of the old National Firearms Act of 1934.)

-Sam

 

[Deanimator]

The law is the law. If it's legal, it's legal.

I've had people hassle me (to their regret) for wearing an NRA ballcap. I stopped catering to the whims of people who couldn't care less if I lived or died some time in high school.

 

[happygeek]

Well, I'd say he is within his rights as long as it's not illegal to paint your muzzle orange. However, I almost suspect he's secretly working for the VPC. My research on them is ongoing, I'm still in the stage of reading what's publicly available online (already tried to pull up hidden pages on their webserver, no joy. Probably has something to do with them being hacked in the past and locking it down afterwards). But honestly, based on what I've seen so far, I wouldn't put this past them.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Maybe this guy just wants attention or maybe he's honest to God doing some sort of protest. Anybody have a link to the news footage?

 

[highorder]

If this firearm is considered "overkill"...well, why not a Glock 19 with 15 rounds? Should a homeowner be allowed a 30 round magazine since 10 will suffice for home defense?
Slippery slope, folks..that kind of thing lead to the 1994 AWB and other gun control legislation.

A rifle round for close personal defense in public is absurd.

Besides, personal defense was clearly not this man's intention. He wants attention.

There is no slippery slope here.

As for home defense, you have far more latitude with what you can do in the confines of your home that you do when mingling with the public.

However, I almost suspect he's secretly working for the VPC.

That's not the craziest thing I've ever heard.

 

[545days]

legal does not equal wise

It is legal to leave your home unlocked.
It is legal to open your door when a stranger knocks at 3:00 AM.
It is legal to use ATMs in bad parts of town at night.
It is legal (in many areas) to pick up hitchhikers.
It is legal to dress up in Klan regalia and walk the streets of Compton.
It is legal to pee on an electric fence.

However, none of these things are wise.

 

[happygeek]

It is legal to pee on an electric fence.

Reminds me of the old saying "a few learn by reading, most learn from watching someone else, but there's some people who just have to pee on the electric fence for themselves".

 

[John Wayne]

Sounds like this guy was making a complete ass of himself, for the express purpose of getting attention.

There is nothing wrong with carrying a gun for the purpose of defending yourself or others. Also nothing wrong with carrying openly, or even carrying obnoxiously large guns, assuming you are proficient in their use.

But carrying a gun for the sake of attention is NEVER a good thing. Carrying a gun in order to scare or intimidate others is looking for a fight, and ought to be treated as such.

 

[happygeek]

Wait a minute ... he's not working for the VPC, he's a undercover agent of Bloomberg! He has to be, that's the only logical explanation. Can't believe I'm the first one to realize that.

 

[highorder]

The question is, why do some people equate the law with what's a good idea?

Legal or not and good idea or not are seperate ideas.

 

[Glockman17366]

Highorder wrote:
A rifle round for close personal defense in public is absurd.

Besides, personal defense was clearly not this man's intention. He wants attention.

There is no slippery slope here.

As for home defense, you have far more latitude with what you can do in the confines of your home that you do when mingling with the public.

So, who are you to judge? What gives you that right?

The question is, why do some people equate the law with what's a good idea?

Legal or not and good idea or not are seperate ideas.

But this I agree with 100%

Unfortunately, rights don't require good judgement or maturity or common sense.

 

[highorder]

I'm not judging, I'm offering my (reasonable) opinion. There is a difference. Many agree.

Overpenetration is a serious concern. Personal defense is all about compromise. Concealability, stopping power, capacity, weight, overpenetration, public opinion.

Feel free to ignore public opinion if you don't care about the future of RKBA.

Unfortunately, rights don't require good judgement or maturity or common sense.

They do if we want to keep them.

 

[svaz]

Seems to me although he was legal, it was a stupid ploy. Such asinine antics put "us", collectively, in the same light as extremist fools like PETA, etc.

 

[Bovice]

OK OK OK, slow down. When I posted, no one mentioned ANYTHING about painting the muzzle orange. That changes things. I still see nothing wrong with carrying that particular type of gun. I do see something wrong with painting it orange.

 

[hankdatank1362]

or compensating for a half-roll of nickels.

That's comedy gold right there. I love it!

 

[danbrew]

There can't be two of them....

Man With AK-47-Style Gun In Park Detained, Let Go
Posted: Dec 24, 2009 6:20 AM CST

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A man carrying an AK-47-style semiautomatic pistol was detained at Radnor Lake State Parkafter startled hikers complained to park rangers.

Ellen Thomas said she was hiking an upper trail on Sunday when she encountered 37-year-old Leonard Embody wearing a camouflage jacket, military boots and a black skull cap. She called the encounter "scary."

State Department of Environment and Conservation spokeswoman Tisha Calabrese-Benton said Embody was detained by park police because his weapon looked like a rifle.

After the gun was secured and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives personnel were called, Embody was released without charges because he has a handgun carry permit.

Calabrese-Benton said state attorneys are still investigating whether the AK-47-style pistol is legal to carry as a handgun.

No phone number was listed for Embody.

The state legislature passed a law earlier this year allowing people with handgun permits to carry their weapons in parks.

Leonard?
Embody?
Leonard Embody?

Man, I'd be carrying a grudge too.

 

[highorder]

That's the guy.

The VPC couldn't have come up with a better scheme to cast public opinion against the RKBA, unless this IS their scheme...

 

[Deanimator]

legal does not equal wise

My mother says the same thing about lawful concealed carry. She'd rather that I go unarmed and and incapable of effective self-defense against deadly force.

 

[hankdatank1362]

In SC, there is a 12" limit, measured from the bottom of the frontstrap to the tip of the barrel, on handguns allowable for concealed carry.

Not something I'm thrilled about, but would provide fodder for locking this nutjob up. Legal or not, you have a duty not to alarm the general populace. Open carry? Ok, sure, sign me up. Trotting around in public dressed like a Rambo reject carrying an AK pistol? Hmmm, we're gonna watch this guy.

Dress and carry yourself to deserve the public's trust and respect, or else you might find yourself getting hassled. That's just the way it is. If people deliberately go out of their way to stick out like a sore thumb (thugs with baggy clothes, goth kids and their all black, etc...) then they should expect to recieve increased scrutiny.

Someone wants to dress like a thug? I'm gonna treat them like one, because that's the image they wish to portray. Someone wants to look like a homegrown terrorist? They get the same.