Is this typical of coyote hunting?

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Beetle Bailey

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I've never gone hunting before, but since I am a regular at my local rifle range, I've been fortunate enough to have met a lot of friendly shooters. Many of them hunt at least a couple times a year. Last month I passed the test and received my Hunter Safety Certificate so IINM all I need a license, tags, and the gear.

Anyways, when I went to the shooting range I told a few of the regulars that I had passed the class and was immediately invited to go on a few hunts! I'm not sure which if any of them I will be able to attend. One of the guys is the president of a small, informal hunting club and has hunted all over the world. He went dove hunting in Arizona last month and will be deer hunting later this month. However, he says his favorite thing to hunt is coyote and he described it to me like this:

"I love hunting coyote because at the same time you're hunting him, he's hunting you (because you pretend to be an injured rabbit). First, I make a noise like this (puts his hands to his mouth, one in a fist, the other as a flap, and then makes a noise). That's the sound of a young coyote trying to say this land is his. Now, whichever coyote owns this land is gonna be angry and insulted that some young punk coyote is coming into his turf and saying that."

"Now, if I can get the coyote to approach and investigate, I make another sound, like this (makes another noise). That means 'I'm a dying rabbit, and I'm callin out in pain. I taste delicious and I'm easy to get!' Now the coyote is gonna be extra mad because not only is there a young punk coyote on his land, but that punk coyote is gonna steal his rabbit from him! That coyote is gonna come straight to me!"

He also mentioned that when you see the coyote, you have at most five seconds to shoot. Also that if the coyote senses that something's not quite right, he'll just start running. A lot of the time that means he's been shot at before and has learned from it.

Is this typical of coyote hunting? When he told me the story, there were a couple other hunters around laughing. I didn't know if they were laughing because the first guy was pulling my leg or because of the entertaining way he told the story. . .

I don't doubt that he's hunted coyotes this way but what I am wondering is "Are there other ways to hunt them that don't require the ability to make believable animal noises?"
 
It is usual to make animal noises when hunting coyotes though the means of doing it vary. One can use various mouth calls you blow through or recorded calls. In one book I read, the author even claimed that a couple of coyotes came to him because of the sound his canoe made when dragged up on a beach. It apparently doesn't take supreme talent to make a noise that will interest a coyote; something like a dog.

They are also very shy when they've experienced being shot at but there are still dumb ones out there that aren't spooked by a shot or two. If you have the chance to go coyote hunting, by all means do it.
 
I'm going to try some 'yote hunting on my next week off down in canyonland/ redrock country (S. Utah).

There is a wealth of good information on 'yote hunting here: www.varmintal.com. Also, a lot of the calls you can purchase come with an instructional DVD or tape.

On that site you can even download complete 20 minute calling sequences, burn them to a CD, then play them through a boom box.

I've only tried 'yote hunting 3 times, with no success, but from what I've read and seen on videos it looks like good fun. I think I've been in poor areas, and my calling technique isn't great. I've never tried 'yote hunting in wide open areas. This next week off I intend on calling in wide open stretches of desert land. If nothing appears in about 30 minutes, I'm going to hop in my jeep and drive to a different area, then repeat the process.

Good luck with your future 'yote hunting!
 
Beetle, good post. I like a good story. I believe the story teller was embellishing things a bit, but sure sounded good to me!

Take advantage of the opportunity to hunt with them. Those invites don't happen as often as they used to.
 
Try The Coyote Gods website.

There are some good videos. I have some that I got at Gander Mountain. As with other hunting, the only thing that is always true is that nothing is always true. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
 
True, but with added details.

He actually gave you the skinny on 'yote hunting, but like any hunters tale it had to be "improved" a bit.

Calling (making territorial or wounded animal sounds) is one of the best ways to lure them to you. Shots are likely to be fast because songdogs are very sneaky and spook easily.

The good part was when he tried to make you believe he makes all these noises himself. There are mouth calls (think kazoos with aminal sounds) and electronic calls that can be very realistic. I'm sure someone out there can do it all themselves, but not many. Certainly not me.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I didn't realize they made mouth calls especially for coyotes but it makes sense now that I think about it. Doesn't sound quite so intimidating now, though I still expect it to be challenging, to say the least.

So, on to the gun. I have a heavy barreled Savage 10FP in .223 rem. It shoots sub-MOA at 100 yards with match ammo, but I don't know how it does with hunting ammo. I don't know how to handload so what factory loads would be good for coyotes?
 
I would continue to use the same ammo. You won't be shooting that often. The 223 is plenty for coyotes. They are thin skinned animals and you can always shoot a second shot. Just aim for good hits in the chest area.
 
BB, there are several brands of mouth-blown calls, numerous cassette tape producers, and now CDs. The mouth-blown calls generally sound like wounded rabbits or like baby goats, depending on how you use them and the tone of the reed.

Cassette calls include Alpha male calls, baby woodpecker, wounded cottontail, wounded jackrabbit and others.

I even lip-squeaked like a mouse, one time, and got a fox up close enough to tap his nose with my boot toe. Think "Bottle brush". Hair stuck out in all directions...

Art
 
Glockfan:

How does the live trap work as bait? After caught, is the rabbit tied up, or in a cage? I was thinking about killing a jackrabbit to use as bait... Would that work?
 
Live rabbits are great for bait. You dont leave them in the cage though, just collar it, and tie it to a tree. Get it to scream the yotes will come in waves. As gross as it sounds you could use roadkill too, but you would still need to call them in. I have used taped distress calls with some sucess, but nothing beats the real thing.
 
Now this is sounding really interesting. The main problem is that since the guy is retired, he has no restrictions on what days of the week he schedules his hunts and he seems to do it on weekdays a lot.

Next time I see him, I'll ask if he has some of these calls and CD's.

You dont leave them in the cage though, just collar it, and tie it to a tree.

I'm seeing images of the beginning of the movie Enemy at the Gates where they've got a horse tied to a pole to lure in a wolf. . . :D
 
An old favourite home-made fox call over here is to rub a bit of Aeroboard (Styrofoam?) expanded polystyrene on a piece of glass.
It makes a very convincing 'wounded rabbit' squealing sound.
 
[You may want to check local game laws before using a live rabbit./QUOTE]

Great suggestion. Thanks!

editted to add: On second thought, if it's considered harassing wildlife anywhere, I'll just not do it, even if it's legal here. Thanks again.
 
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I think Coyotes are the hardest animals I have ever hunted and thats probably why they are my favorite animal to hunt. They are extremely intelligent there vision and sense of smell are amazing!!!

He also mentioned that when you see the coyote, you have at most five seconds to shoot. Also that if the coyote senses that something's not quite right, he'll just start running. A lot of the time that means he's been shot at before and has learned from it.

As long as your well concealed, stay still, and are down wind you can outsmart them. I have called in dogs and watched them for over an hour just to see what they do, so the 5 second rule is BS! But it is true about them sensing that something is wrong they will just take off like a bat out of hell
I don't think it means they have been shot at because in my area there is no pressure on them I have never ran into another person hunting them by me just trappers. I think it has a lot to do with them being hunters and being so damn smart. I have run into a lot of stupid ones though Just ask my 22-250 she'll tell ya all about it:D
 
Your .223 would work pretty good, might get a little heavy if you have to walk a while but should work well. Just use some ammo thats accurate.

Also concealment is important as some one said. Instead of using road kill or live bait for example you could use a stuffed animal, ive heard of people using snoopy.
 
Your .223 would work pretty good, might get a little heavy if you have to walk a while but should work well. Just use some ammo thats accurate.

I have used an AR, and a 10/22 shooting CCI Stingers both were more than up to the task. The 10/22 is lighter to lug around though so it goes with me the most. Oh and a Glock 21 once cause thats what I had with me when I came upon one by chance (I hate coyotes so I kill them when I see them).
 
One of the guys I used to shoot with was out wandering around the small wood lot in back of the building(along the north shore of Lake Ontario in Mississauga) one evening. He was absentmindedly screwing a hunk of broken glass into a foam cup. He said he heard a noise, turned around and saw a fox about 10 feet away staring at him. Wasn't rabid either. We figured the slight noise the glass and foam made sounded like a free meal to Renard. Wiley comes a runnin' to the same sound.
"...that would be harassing wildlife..." Ditto in Ontario. Get you arrested, all your equipment, vehicle included, confiscated, a hefty fine and likely a loss of your hunting licence.
 
dragongoddess, about the only thing that ever gets made up is "how big" and "how many". Otherwise, truth is usually stranger than fiction ever thought of being.

Remind me sometime to tell ya my barracuda story. :D

Art
 
Check out www.varmintal.com

He hunts all kinds of varmints and even has electronic calls as mp3's that you can download. In additon to hand calls, he uses an mp3 player hooked up to a mini amp and powerhorn. I built a "bi-fur-pod" according to his plans and it works much better than a harris bipod! You can learn a lot about varmint hunting from that site.
 
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