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Is Whether Or Not You Can Legally Carry The Deciding Factor On Where You Go?
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I live a real practical life and not an ideological one that I toot about on the Internet. I carry where legal. If I need to go somewhere were I can't carry, I go there. If I have equal choice, I might not go to anti place. However, if I have to (in the past) to the UK or Canada - I went. If a big professional deal was in NYC, I went.
I used common sense in all places.
I used common sense in all places.
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I will go to a concert every couple of years or so, and that's about the only time I voluntarily disarm.
Of course, government buildings are a no go, so I avoid them IF possible.
Perfectly legal here to carry in churches, hospitals, bars, etc. Casino carry is illegal here, but I don't gamble, so..........
Of course, government buildings are a no go, so I avoid them IF possible.
Perfectly legal here to carry in churches, hospitals, bars, etc. Casino carry is illegal here, but I don't gamble, so..........
If I have alternatives, or options, I refuse to go someplace that doesn't allow concealed carry. Of course federal properties don't allow it, so if I had to go to a federal, state, or city building I'll be unhappy, but might have to leave my carry gun in the vehicle. But if it's a store, or place I don't HAVE TO GO, I'll take my gun and my business elsewhere.
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Not carrying a gun, for me, simply means a change of mindset. A given tool along with its advantages and disadvantages is no longer an option, but it was never my only option.
If I claim to not be willing to go some place because they don't allow guns, then it is either because it is too dangerous (and I likely would not go anyway) or because it is a place I just don't want to go, whether they allowed guns or not. It took about 2 years for my wife to figure this out, LOL.
I don't like disarming if I don't have to do so, but only rarely does being disarmed actually keep me from something.
If I claim to not be willing to go some place because they don't allow guns, then it is either because it is too dangerous (and I likely would not go anyway) or because it is a place I just don't want to go, whether they allowed guns or not. It took about 2 years for my wife to figure this out, LOL.
I don't like disarming if I don't have to do so, but only rarely does being disarmed actually keep me from something.
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I don't think one can. There are some places you have to go unarmed or they could disarm you and put you with a bunch of other disarmed people.
It can definitely be done. There are plenty of folks in my area who never leave the state, don't own an "on road" vehicle and carry a gun every day, everywhere that they go. Not my thing, but there are those who do it.
As eloquent and articulate as that response was, I'm afraid I didn't quite get what you mean. Could you elaborate?
The first two are very common here. Folks don't need to stay home in order to carry all the time though. I don't carry at home, typically. When I leave home is when the gun goes on.
The comment was "The belief the something is dangerous, or a threat; if we didn't think that we would never carry".
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i leave the house, I know of no one who is "dangerous, or a threat". If I did, I would stay indoors and leave later.
But I do carry. The reason is because it is possible that a threat may materialize.
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I have no problem to not carry a gun, because I can still defend myself without it, but I won't go to a dangerous area without it.
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I mean, you live in fear of ironing your clothes so....The belief the something is dangerous, or a threat; if we didn't think that we would never carry.
Apparently, since you carry you are living in "fear" when you do.
On a serious note, I can't disagree with your statement. There is some level of fear that drives my decision to carry a gun.
But that's not quite what I meant. I've said it a couple of different times in this discussion.
If you would forgo your favorite restaurant because it was posted (sneaking a gun in is not a possibility in this hypothetical) or you wouldn't go visit your grandkids out of state because you weren't allowed to carry a gun in that state. Or you go to visit your grandkids and your daughter or son-in-law meet you at the front door and asks you to lock your gun in the car while you're in their home.
That's living in fear to me.
As I've also said in this discussion, I have a hard time placing limits because there's no place that I would want to go where I'm prohibited from carrying a gun.
It's really easy for me to say that I won't let the fact that I can't carry a gun in a given location dictate where I'll go and where I won't when I'm never really come up against the test.
The only place I go to regularly where I can't even have a gun in my car is the VA. I'm certainly not going to give up on going to the VA because I can't carry a gun there.
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I'm sorry but if you sift it enough at some level that is a decision driven by fear.
In and of itself fear is not a bad thing. I quit smoking because I watched both my parents die from smoking related illness was afraid of dying like that.
I carry a gun when I leave the house because I'm afraid of running into the wrong crackhead on the wrong day and not having the means to defend myself.
It may not be a paralyzing fear but it's a fear
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I'm never completely unarmed. I refuse to have my fangs pulled by the deep state NWO Globalists crowd. Being armed doesn't always mean having a firearm on one's person. But, there are states that I have vowed to never visit again. California, Massachusetts, Oregon, Illinois and New York. That's not inconsequential to me given that I have daughters and grandchildren living in Sacramento (well, Roseville) and Portland.
How can "fear" exist in the absence of a know, perceived, oor expectd threat?
We do not use seatbelts, acquire fire extinguishers, or put in alarm systems because of fear.
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I absolutely wear seat belts and have fire extinguishers and have an alarm system because of fear.
It's not a paralyzing fear. But it is in fact a fear
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Fear of what?
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Fear of going through the windshield in my car in a collision.
Fear of burning to death from a fire that I could have put out really quickly with a fire extinguisher.
Fear of somebody getting into my house without my knowledge.
There was a line in the book Jaws. Quint was telling Hooper he was an idiot for getting in the shark cage. They argued about it back and forth and then Quint said "Going down in that shark cage is like sticking your hand in a fire and hoping you don't get burned. A sensible man don't do it."
It stuck with me because it's true
I am officially declaring this dead horse beaten enough. Everyone is free to make their own decisions about when and where to carry. Those decisions are theirs and theirs alone and no one has the right to say that they are wrong. There is no right or wrong answer. Everyone should do their own risk assessment and make their decision to not go somewhere where they cannot legally carry or to stay home. If you are looking for validation for your own personal life choices you've come to the wrong place. There is nothing to be learned from this kind of back and forth.
If you want to go to a concert or sporting event.....GO! If you don't want to go because you can't carry your firearm........STAY HOME! It's your choice and we've wasted a lot of electrons on an off topic subject. An adult should be able to make his or her own choice and be willing to live with the consequences.
If you want to go to a concert or sporting event.....GO! If you don't want to go because you can't carry your firearm........STAY HOME! It's your choice and we've wasted a lot of electrons on an off topic subject. An adult should be able to make his or her own choice and be willing to live with the consequences.
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