I've always heard the Ruger Mk. II is hard to disasemble...

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...but I just don't see it.

Infact, in this same forum, I was told that the Ruger Mk II is just as hard if not harder than the Buckmark to disasemble. That's even one reason why I put off buying a Mark II, infact, because I own a Buckmark and I think it's a pain the butt to take apart. Now that I own a Mark II, I really don't see what the big deal is.

I can even break down the steps from memory. For each weapon, to do basic 'field stripping' (breaking down into main components) and the tools needed goes like this:

For the Buckmark
Tools needed: flathead screwdriver and hex wrench of a certain size
-Unscrew the hex screws on top of the bolt and barrel
-Remove TINY washers
-Remove top strap thingie
-Compress and remove mainspring
-5 times out of 10 the little washer that holds the mainspring will come off, and this extremely, extremely tiny part will come off and probably fly across the room
-Remove bolt
-Remove plastic buffer
-Unscrew barrel screw and remove barrel

Now, to achieve pretty much the exact same amount of field stripping with the Ruger:

Tools needed: None, possibly a generic prying tool (Spent case, pocket knife, car key) if you have weak, girly fingernails like me.
-Pry the little clamp thingie out on back strap
-Remove this clamp and pin assembly, all of which is one, hard to lose part
-Remove the bolt. Note that, unlike the Buckmark, it's not neccessary to remove the mainspring
-Remove the receiver by pulling it forward and out

That's it.

The point is, I am fully convinced of something i've known all along: the Browning Buckmark is poorly designed when it comes to ease of disassembly. I'm not saying it's better or worse or less accurate or reliable than the Ruger. It's just harder to take apart, even though i've been told thousands of times by people on the internet that it's not. My eyes are open!

Also to people who say: "But you don't need to take apart .22's!" That's basically BS, I think. People go on and on about the mechanical simplicity of Glocks and 1911s and how this is an ASSET, as if mechanical complexity is something to be avoided. Why should it be any different for rimfire pistols? This is like the "Never clean a .22 barrel" argument. I know this is going to get alot of people riled up, but i've heard so many arguments for this and it still makes no sense.

Anyway, that's my rant. Go ahead and tear me apart.
 
I've only had a hard time putting back a MKII when it was new. Take it apart and coupla times and it's as easy as any other handgun. The best thing I have for my MKII is the trigger shield. It keeps the crap from getting into the trigger mechanism so I don't have to disasseble and clean it so often. I can usually clean it wiht the bolt locked back.
 
I sold my first MK II partly because I though it was hard to strip but I find it easy to do now. I find many 22 target autoloaders tend to be a bit complicated to strip and I'm surprised Ruger sold as many MK I and II's as they did because I find many shooters have trouble with them. As your average gun owner shoots rarely and does not clean their gun well anyways maybe thats why!

I love my 22lr Norinco Walther Olympia clone partly because it fieldstrips like a Walther PPK, nice and easy!
 
The MkII strips easily enough... it's getting it back together that can be a problem for a new owner. The position of the hammer strutt is key to a successful reassembly. This must be practiced right the first time or you'll lose your religion over it! :rolleyes:
 
It takes about 15 seconds to take the Ruger apart and about 30 seconds to put it back togather once you know how to do it.

Anyone trying to tell you it is extremly difficult is either an idiot or they are just passing along info they have heard from other idiots.
 
I have been having this argument on-line for years.
I got my first Ruger .22 autoloading pistol when I was 9 years old. I had no problem disassembling it for cleaning. Today, I own several variations of them and still don't have any problem stripping them for cleaning and I can't boil water without screwing it up.
I have never understood why anyone thinks this is difficult.

I also think it is important to disassemble these pistols for cleaning. I don't care about the bore. But there is a lot of junk accumulated inside these pistols after......let's say 1000 rounds that really should be cleaned out of the action. My stainless 5 1/2" heavy barrel will start to malfunction when dirty and if you let it go too long, you can't get it apart because of the dirt. You have to spray it down with carb cleaner for something to get it apart.
 
Well them I'm the idiot!! LOL It takes me what seems like forever to get mine back together. :banghead:
 
Okay, I'm stupid and just pass along rumors ... but I find them annoying to disassemble and all but impossible to reassemble.

Probably has something to do with being mechanically challenged... ;)

pax
 
Taking it apaprt is fine - its putting it back together thats a pain in the ass for me.

As a result, I strip mine down about once every year or so - certainly no more often than that. And, I shoot it alot.
 
I agree, getting it back together is the challenge sometimes.
None, possibly a generic prying tool (Spent case, pocket knife, car key) if you have weak, girly fingernails like me.
A paperclip is the best, non-damaging tool for this job. I keep one on my ench for just that purpose.

The MKII trigger shield marketed by On Target guns is the best modification to come out for a Ruger in years. You can find them on ebay, their site has closed down.
 
Idiots

Hey Mauser 88, PAX, & countertop, if you guys are starting an
idiots club can I join? I'm qualified because even though I don't cuss I
come real close at times getting Ruger .22 autos back together!!!

SKIP
 
I think they are cake to get apart. After about 6 years with one it was still a crapshoot as to how quickly I could get the Ruger back together, sometimes 30 seconds, sometimes 3 minutes. I could never figure out why sometimes it was easy and sometimes not so easy. Anyhow, I guess I was one of the idiots, but I sold it after a while.
 
I didn't buy one because it is sucha PIA to put back together. I was watching a friend put his together and I just couldn't belive it. I bought a S&W 22A instead. Clear gun, push button lift barrel off, remove slide assembly is the reverse and about 10 seconds. Not quite as easy as a high standard but close.
 
You would be a lot better off spending about one hour of your life learning to field strip the Ruger than you would buying a POS like a S&W 22a.

I could teach even the most dense person I know how to strip the Ruger and put it back togather in less than two minutes with about one hours instruction.

It sure beats buying a gun like the 22a that is SURE to break parts on a regular basis.
 
... with about an hours instruction.
Ok, if it takes an hour to learn how to take it apart and put it back together, it is not "easy" by any measure I would consider reasonable.

But what do I know? I'm obviously either an idiot or a liar. :rolleyes:

A Hi Standard is easy. A Mark II is not.

pax
 
There is some variation from gun to gun on the difficulty in reassembling those Ruger MKII pistols. I love them myself and have 4 of them. One is tougher than the other three to take apart and get back together. I would buy another used one if I see it at a great price.

Most people putting them back together don't align the hammer strut correctly with the mainspring latch (terminology may not be correct, but I hope you know the parts I'm talking about). The way I do it is to make sure the hammer is in the forward position and the strut is swinging free. You hold the pistol at an angle so that the muzzle is pointed upward enough to get that hammer strut to angle down into the mainspring hosing as you latch it into place. You should feel some spring tension as the mainsping housing just starts to seat flush, otherwise the strut is not aligned correctly.
 
I won't tear you apart. The Ruger MKI & IIs are easy to disassemble. They take a bit of fidgetting to get it back together. Once you've done it several times, it's no big deal.

Honestly, I didn't find the Buckmark all that hard to field strip. What I didn't like is that the screws would loosen under recoil. First time this happened, I didn't have any tools at the range, so I had to cut short my range time. Kept the MKI and ditched the Buckmark.
 
Pax,

The whole trick to reassembly is the attitude of the barrel.

And don't forget to hold your mouth right. LoL.

I am taking my oldest grand daughter shooting in a couple of hours. I will be teaching her to clean my 22/45 this afternoon.

Yeah, I checked the sol-lunar tables and my horoscope, this is a good day to clean Mk's.



DM
 
DM ~

And all this time I thought it was the attitude of the person doing the work! ;)

Have fun with your grand daughter.

pax
 
Ok, if it takes an hour to learn how to take it apart and put it back together, it is not "easy" by any measure I would consider reasonable.

What I said was that I could spend an hour teaching the dumbest person I know and have them taking the Ruger apart and putting it back togather in two minutes.

It does not take a rocket sciencest to be able to do this. You don't have to be a master armorer or gunsmith with 30 years experience.

All you need is less than average intelligence and have the use of your hands and a general knowledge of your pistol's design.

If you can't field strip your Ruger you can remove the grips and spray it out with carb cleaner and have it cleaner that it came from the factory in about one minute.

I really can't understand all of you people problems with the Ruger. :banghead:
 
Ruger Mk II... the only gun I've owned that drew enough of my own blood to cause me to lose consciousness. And that was during assembly/disassembly. :what:
 
The secret, as several have hinted, is having someone show you, once, what's involved. The key is getting the hammer strut in the right position -- which it will do if the barrel is held in the right position.

About 15 second to take it apart (unless the barrel assembly/slide is really tight) and 30 seconds to reassemble.

Its like a secret handshake. The link above should help.
 
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