I've always heard the Ruger Mk. II is hard to disasemble...
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This thread prompted me to go shooting today. I haven't been shooting for a month: too hot: we have set an all time record high temperature every day this week I think and it is normally hotter than hell. It has been nudging 120 degrees here. Anyway, I went to an indoor range (which I haven't done in 10 years or more) and shot one of my Mk. IIs. The Standard Model.
Great fun.
Great fun.
Walt Sherrill
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I did that on purpose! <grin>
Also saw a big, very positive write up in a gun mag, this week, about the Hi-Point! <bigger grin>.
But we all know to ignore gun mags.
Standing Wolf
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I'll never buy another Ruger anything. If the frame had been made an eighth to a quarter of an inch longer, the hammer strut problem could easily have been avoided altogether.
Bill Ruger was just too @#$%^&! cheap to design the pistol right, and too pig-headed to redesign it.
Bill Ruger was just too @#$%^&! cheap to design the pistol right, and too pig-headed to redesign it.
"I'll never buy another Ruger anything. If the frame had been made an eighth to a quarter of an inch longer, the hammer strut problem could easily have been avoided altogether.
Bill Ruger was just too @#$%^&! cheap to design the pistol right, and too pig-headed to redesign it"
Mr Ruger assumed that the people buying his gun would have an IQ of at least a 5 year old because basically that is all that is required.
But again I guess in 1949 when his pistol first went into production people had more common sense and they had no problems field stripping his pistol and this could be a problem resulting from the state of our modern public schools.
He has sold more of these than any other .22 auto pistol maker because his design is good no matter if you can field strip it or not.
Bill Ruger was just too @#$%^&! cheap to design the pistol right, and too pig-headed to redesign it"
Mr Ruger assumed that the people buying his gun would have an IQ of at least a 5 year old because basically that is all that is required.
But again I guess in 1949 when his pistol first went into production people had more common sense and they had no problems field stripping his pistol and this could be a problem resulting from the state of our modern public schools.
He has sold more of these than any other .22 auto pistol maker because his design is good no matter if you can field strip it or not.
10-Ring
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Uhhhh, guys?
It ain't that hard, 'specially if you read the manual. They've got these really neat pictures in there that you can just emulate and presto!
It ain't that hard, 'specially if you read the manual. They've got these really neat pictures in there that you can just emulate and presto!
Ruger Mk II
Disasembly is quick....10-15 seconds.
Reassembly is slower....usually 5 minutes for me.
Its not too hard, but its certainly not as easy as it should be. My main issue is forgetting a step during reassembly, even though I'm doing the procedure weekly (since I shoot it again), I invariably miss a step. There isn't a physical challenge in reassembly for me, instead its just a minor memory challenge (I almost always have to take the manual back out for reassembly).
Overall, I don't see it as an issue. Its really NOT that bad to reassemble, its just NOT as easy as the super-easy guns (Sig, Glock, Beretta).
Disasembly is quick....10-15 seconds.
Reassembly is slower....usually 5 minutes for me.
Its not too hard, but its certainly not as easy as it should be. My main issue is forgetting a step during reassembly, even though I'm doing the procedure weekly (since I shoot it again), I invariably miss a step. There isn't a physical challenge in reassembly for me, instead its just a minor memory challenge (I almost always have to take the manual back out for reassembly).
Overall, I don't see it as an issue. Its really NOT that bad to reassemble, its just NOT as easy as the super-easy guns (Sig, Glock, Beretta).
Browns Fan
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I am awfully glad some of you guys chimed in when you did. I was beginning to think that I was the only idiot here.
My self esteem is restored... kinda!
BTW, I am in no way trying to put down the MkII, I really like this gun!
My self esteem is restored... kinda!
BTW, I am in no way trying to put down the MkII, I really like this gun!
Not horridly difficult, but my .22LR upper for my .45 is easiest
I wouldn't say that taking down/reassembling my Ruger Mark II was horridly difficult, but my .22LR upper for my .45 is by far the easiest of my .22s to clean. Also, it's as accurate and gives me realistic practice for aiming and trigger pull for my .45 because it IS my .45...just firing .22s for cheaper practice. By the way, for all of the "minor difficulty", very "minor", I still am quite endeared to the little Ruger...it really is a wonderful pistol! I also agree that a .22LR should be cleaned as often and with as much care as any other "fine" firearm. You really started a very nice post here, and I enjoyed reading all of the responses. Thanks!
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I wouldn't say that taking down/reassembling my Ruger Mark II was horridly difficult, but my .22LR upper for my .45 is by far the easiest of my .22s to clean. Also, it's as accurate and gives me realistic practice for aiming and trigger pull for my .45 because it IS my .45...just firing .22s for cheaper practice. By the way, for all of the "minor difficulty", very "minor", I still am quite endeared to the little Ruger...it really is a wonderful pistol! I also agree that a .22LR should be cleaned as often and with as much care as any other "fine" firearm. You really started a very nice post here, and I enjoyed reading all of the responses. Thanks!
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I have no problem with the hammer strut, but this step:
"-Remove the receiver by pulling it forward and out"
drives me crazy with mine. Maybe someone much stronger than I could remove it just by pulling, but for me, it usually takes a rubber mallet and lots of frustration before I can get the barrel off the frame. Are they supposed to be this tight? Putting it back on is just as bad!
"-Remove the receiver by pulling it forward and out"
drives me crazy with mine. Maybe someone much stronger than I could remove it just by pulling, but for me, it usually takes a rubber mallet and lots of frustration before I can get the barrel off the frame. Are they supposed to be this tight? Putting it back on is just as bad!
Master Blaster
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I have a buckmark bullseye model and a couple of mark II's.
Just wait until you take the grips off your buck mark is all I can say, watch out for all the little parts and springs that will fall out if your not careful.
Neither of these firearms are difficult to strip and reassemble they just require a few minutes and a little patience. If you detail srtip the bolt on a MKII yoou need to watch out for the very tiny firing pin spring and its plunger, and you need to remember to put the retaining pin for the Firing pin back in or you can damage the breech face when you dryfire it.
Just wait until you take the grips off your buck mark is all I can say, watch out for all the little parts and springs that will fall out if your not careful.
Neither of these firearms are difficult to strip and reassemble they just require a few minutes and a little patience. If you detail srtip the bolt on a MKII yoou need to watch out for the very tiny firing pin spring and its plunger, and you need to remember to put the retaining pin for the Firing pin back in or you can damage the breech face when you dryfire it.
The good news is, in my experience, it's not a gun you really need to take apart much.
I'm not sure I ever cleaned the bbl...maybe once.
As mentioned, the rest can be "hosed down" intact if needed.
I may have missed it in this thread, but I believe they sell an aftermarket part(s) that modify the take down, make it easier I guess.
I'm not sure I ever cleaned the bbl...maybe once.
As mentioned, the rest can be "hosed down" intact if needed.
I may have missed it in this thread, but I believe they sell an aftermarket part(s) that modify the take down, make it easier I guess.
ktd
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Taking the thing apart is easy enough, though the putting back together can be hard, especially if you do not know the "trick" or are not apt. I have gotten several late phone calls where I have to explain how to get that strut in place. I do the pull the trigger, tip the muzzle down then tip it up trick.
Another funny story, this shop owner (non-gun shop) told me he had a pistol he took apart ten years ago and was never able to put it back together, about every year he would spend a couple of hours on it then put it back in the back room. I pretty much immediately knew what make it was. He brought it out and as he was telling me the story I got the thing back together much to his annoyance. Then I had to buy him a lockbox since I now made his pistol dangerous much to his wife's dismay. He now refers to me as "that guy who fixes my guns" in front of his customers.
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Another funny story, this shop owner (non-gun shop) told me he had a pistol he took apart ten years ago and was never able to put it back together, about every year he would spend a couple of hours on it then put it back in the back room. I pretty much immediately knew what make it was. He brought it out and as he was telling me the story I got the thing back together much to his annoyance. Then I had to buy him a lockbox since I now made his pistol dangerous much to his wife's dismay. He now refers to me as "that guy who fixes my guns" in front of his customers.
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Why didn't you just take it apart again?
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ktd
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'cuz I won't be there to put it back together when the zombies reanimate and try to break into his house. I will be at home smoking my Robusto's and loading magazines!
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Robusto is my favorite size too.
Think I'll go have a Padron 2000 Maduro.
and to keep it gun related, I cleaned my 22/45 after I got back from shooting on Wednesday. No problems at all, but I did remembet to face sse and stand on my head before starting reassembly.
DM
Think I'll go have a Padron 2000 Maduro.
and to keep it gun related, I cleaned my 22/45 after I got back from shooting on Wednesday. No problems at all, but I did remembet to face sse and stand on my head before starting reassembly.
DM
XavierBreath
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Yep, they are usually this tight. On older, looser ones I have, in fact tightened them up a bit by squeezing the grip frame where the reciever fits in a vise. They don't have to be tight, but they should be snug and not move once on the grip frame. When I get ready to field strip, I just go ahead and get out the rubber mallet.
Kamicosmos
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They are a bit more difficult than other automatics. The hammer strut thing is a bit of a pain, but after a few times, you learn this funky martial arts looking move where you flip the gun around upside down and give it a shake, and Presto, the gun is back together! I'd say I can get one apart in under 15 seconds, and back together, on average, in about 30 seconds. If I screw up the hammer strut, make it 45 seconds.
I have trouble with getting the barrel on and off of mine. Sometimes it's tight as hell, other times it practically falls off. I often just leave it on and gun scrubber it.
Now, you want a challenge? 1916 German Luger. With no manual. That will teach you a whole lot about field stripping a gun! Automag II wasn't alot of fun either, but that was a complete detail strip, so it doesn't really count here...
I have trouble with getting the barrel on and off of mine. Sometimes it's tight as hell, other times it practically falls off. I often just leave it on and gun scrubber it.
Now, you want a challenge? 1916 German Luger. With no manual. That will teach you a whole lot about field stripping a gun! Automag II wasn't alot of fun either, but that was a complete detail strip, so it doesn't really count here...
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