Jim March just finished Filming "the debate show"

[Cosmoline]

When you lie to a person with the intent to induce them to do or refrain from doing an action, the person reasonably relies on your lies and your lies damage that person, you are liable for damages for the intentional tort of misrepresentation. The questions here are the nature and extent of damage and whether any waivers which Jim may have signed would hold up. And my bet is they did have him sign waivers, even if he didn't know about it.

Damages are tricky, since the whole thing is portrayed as a spoof. But in most states you can obtain damages for emotional distress arising from an intentional tort.

So I say, get ahold of an attorney in-state and sue the creatures. Even if you don't win, you may keep the episode from airing.

EDIT: Looks like you did! Good for you.

 

[Carnitas]

My TIVO online guide shows Crossballs airing on...
7/6 at 7:30p and 11:30p
on 7/7 at 1:30a, 1:00p, 7::30p, and 11:30p
on 7/8 same times as on 7/7
on 7/9 1:30a and 1:00p

The program guide doesnt provide any info on plot synopsys or show number. I set up a season pass and it grabbed three episodes so I'm guessin that's how many different shows are playing during the times listed above.

 

[denny]

Thought I would share what I found via this Google search:

http://tinyurl.com/2vtf2

The link was too long so I used tinyurl.com to make it manageable.

This is actually the second page from the search and the link for Ruptured|Metafilter has some interesting posts. Also noticed that it was blogged at several sites.

Also, for those that did see the preview, yes it certainly does look like they are using a clip from the show that the screwed Jim over on.

Denny

 

[Sportcat]

http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/crossballs/

 

[Jim March]

From: http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/crossballs/episodes.jhtml

That's "camo boy" as he looked for a different episode...but it's definately him.

IDed as "Matt" on that site, he'd have to be Matt Besser of UCB:

http://www.uprightcitizensbrigade.com/news.php?id=10

The guy has been doing the same sort of thing on a lower-end New York stage production for years. How many of you think you'd match up OK with a guy with that level of experience who's out to slime you by ambush?

Another thing: I was told after the show in phone calls with the producers that the guy who ripped me up "really believes his position". Uh ya, no joke there! New York liberal whose website includes a "Comics For Kerry" blurb?

http://www.uprightcitizensbrigade.com

 

[JackShandy]

The more I read about this, the more I wish you had pulled your knife on 'Camo Boy'; not to hurt him, just to see the look on his face (and the faces of all responsible for this mess) once they realize they've bitten off waaayyy more than they can chew.

<picturing shocked expression, pants being wetted...> BWAA Haaa haaa ha haaaa!

 

[Cosmoline]

I think the lesson here is, never trust mainstream media under any circumstances. And don't sign their waivers. Virtually all of the producers and most of the actors are anti-gun to the core, and those few who aren't have learned to shut the hell up about it or risk being blacklisted. Jim was just a piece of fresh meat for these animals to rip into. If they thought decapitating you on live TV would get them ratings, and if they could get away with it, they'd do it. TV is not a nice place anymore. It's getting more like the Circus Maximus every day.

 

[Moparmike]

I just keep imagining this in a state where CCW is legal... Ole' Jim here seems like the kinda guy to be packing a Ruger Super Redhawk. Oughta get their attention...*snicker*

 

[FJC]

MSNBC.COM has an article on "Crossballs" now...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5326497/

 

[Amish_Bill]

When it’s over, though, you’re left wondering: Are the “actual people†legit? Or are they just another layer in the fabric of fakery?

Nah... That couldn't damage the reputation of someone who'se job requires that he be taken seriously....

 

[M1911Owner]

Are the “actual people†legit?

Naw... They're really just robots, not actual people.

 

[nanojath]

liberal viewpoint

I'm sure I'd be considered a liberal by most here, and my viewpoints on gun control are at least partly at odds with most here - but I have to say I find this whole story simply despicable. I sincerely hope that Mr. March succeeds in his legal action. It's a pity I don't watch tv so I could boycott this show. I'd like to think that most of us are prepared to defend and promote our views in a fair venue in a fair debate.

 

[Stebalo]

Hey Jim,

Your story made it to cruel.com as did this THR thread as the "cruel site of the day".

There might be a glut of idiots posting in this thread soon, coming over from cruel.com. Maybe not since there is registration required here.

 

[PATH]

Sigh! Oh well! Here we go.

 

[S_O_Laban]

nanojath, welcome to THR. Feel free to browse and post as we welcome anybody who can discuss things in a grownup manner. It's good to hear the other side of the story as it tends to help one focus thier thoughts and arguments. Anyway, not to highjack this thread, but if the rest of your posts are as high caliber as your first one, you will fit right in, politics aside.

 

[The_Antibubba]

Welcome, nanojath

I agree with Laban-if you can be respectful, and back up your opinions intelligently, you are most welcome here. And while you're poking around, search some of the "libertarian" threads; you might find you're not as liberal as you thought.

 

[bdh]

Cruel.com

I'm here from cruel.com. I'd like to apologize in advance for any rudeness or bad taste that you may get here from other cruel.com readers. Good luck, Jim. You did the right thing.

 

[Treylis]

Oh, wow, caught this thread on cruel.com too. We're famous, guys. ;-)

 

[Jim March]

Is there a discussion thread going on Cruel?

 

[Stebalo]

Yeah Jim, here is a thread that singled me out:

http://www.cruel.com/discuss/viewTopic.php/98834

I better not let them know what my cruel.com username is.

When did gun nuts become such shrinking violets? First this guy wants to sue for hurt feelings because he got punked, and now we've got people issuing pre-emptive apologies in case of future rudeness by Cruel.Com.

For crying out loud, people. You're gun fetishizing Second Amendment absolutists. People already treat you with kid gloves because of that surrogate penis at your hip and your hair-trigger emotional state. You're better than this Miss Manners crap.

HA! At least they are only pooping in their own play pen this time around.

 

[jimpeel]

Hannity & Colmes had the creators of "Crossballs" on the show tonight. The program will repeat at 2AM EST for those who want to see it or set the VCR.

BTW, welcome nanojath and bdh.

 

[Jim March]

Jimpeel: was any controvery discussed re: the guests?

 

[jimpeel]

Jim March

Nah. Mostly the premise of the show, resemblance to other shows, etc.

 

[bdh]

Good idea, rcade! I'm going to go into psychology - now I have a major advantage! I'll just take my client's writing to an internet forum and get an instant diagnosis!

I can't be surprised by lack of interest in the people manipulated for Crossballs there. It may be less moral, but to me it's in no poorer taste than Fear Factor.

 

[Jim March]

And Now For Something Completely Different Dept. (found in my EMail)

----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:30 PM
Subject: You insensitive jerk!!

I suffer from "crossballs" and have to have daily monkey gland injections, and twice weekly have to undergo painful testicle manipulation which is quite uncomfortable and time consumming, but required to keep me alive. It is a slap in the groin to all crossball sufferers worldwide to give the name of our condition to a cheap skit.

Curse you, and may God rip you a new one.

Regards,

Mark Stevens