July Rimfire Match:

[Maverick223]

I have to disagree, IME I've had some of the sporter contour barrels shoot just as well (and sometimes better) than their heavier counterparts. Where the heavy barrel really shines is with longer shooting sessions. It takes much longer to heat up and therefore doesn't string shots as badly. Harmonics certainly play a part, but as long as the barrel "rings" the same each time, it isn't going to affect the accuracy a great deal. That said, the FV is definitely a worthwhile upgrade for the extra $50 or so.

 

[Centurian22]

Ok, thanks for making the designation of the 'FV'. I have a marlin 989, which to my knowledge is the predecessor to the 795. If I've researched properly it appears to be from the late 50's early 60's and I have not had Any issues with it yet. I haven't had it myself for very long (couple years) as I inherited it from my grandfather, and I know nothing of its history as to if he was the original owner or not and doubt it was shot much at all while in his possession. I eventually want a 'replacement' for both a bolt action and semi .22 so I don't put too much wear on my two inherited 22's. I will still shoot them as I love the connecting I feel when using them. But I'd prefer to keep high round counts on other guns with less sentimental value.

I have never owned a heavy barrel anything so I look forward to adding one or more to my collection eventually.

 

[Centurian22]

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[Maverick223]

You don't have much to worry about, just stick to standard velocity ammunition and it will outlast you! OTOH I understand your position, and have a couple of .22LRs that I feel similarly about, they still get shot (I shoot the Rem. model 12 fairly often using Aguila Super Colibris), but their days as field rifles are limited to outings with fair weather/conditions. A few more .22LRs is never a bad thing.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Okay guys, just after I posted the comment on the Mark II's that Mav disagrees with (I concede the point as he has much more experience with the Mark II series than I have), My buddy Frank with the outdoor range called and wanted me to bring the 10-22 out so he could shoot it.

There was a cool front passing through and the temps hadn't gotten too hot yet plus the wind was in the process of switching from South at 15 mph to the North and was in the almost zero wind condition! Don't happen often in Kansas, believe me!

After he put a couple boxes through it, I tacked up a couple of "Tack" targets, got in my best prone position with the sling holding things tight. I didn't ace it, but I now have a semi-auto .22LR that will come dang close to rivaling my bolt guns! Got 24 tacks driven! There are a couple that might look questionable but I think there's enough resolution you can see the grease rings into the white even if just barely. I put a sheet of blue paper behind the target when I scanned it to help show the holes better.

One thing I hadn't considered before but I really like about having a decent target semi-auto. Instead of having to work the bolt and lose sight picture between shots, it's a lot easier to stay on the target and as long as the ammo and barrel are working right, there tends to be fewer "flyers" caused by the shooter.

Orlando, Maverick and others, there's still room to beat me this month, but that 10-22 sure made it harder! I promise I won't post another target this month so c'mon guys, get after it!

Jim

 

[Mick_W]

Need to sight in the new 597 anyway, might give this a fo if I can make it to the range this month.

 

[Maverick223]

Orlando, Maverick and others, there's still room to beat me this month, but that 10-22 sure made it harder! I promise I won't post another target this month so c'mon guys, get after it!

I'm gonna try...tomorrow, weather permitting, but that's gonna be a tough one. If you get a chance give it another go, I know that one is bothering you.

Need to sight in the new 597 anyway, might give this a fo if I can make it to the range this month.

Welcome to the match. Hope the new rifle serves you well.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Jim that's a great target especially for a 10-22. I might have to drag out the Marlin 60 to see what it will do. That thing will surprise people.

The Marlin 60 and even the one they called the "Glenfield" which was the real cheap one based on the model 60's action are to semi-auto accuracy right out of the box as the Savage Mark II and 93 series are to bolt guns.

You do your part and you should be able to ace that target with very little difficulty.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Do they pay people to test rifles?

If you find such a job needing more than one person, let me know. I could easily fill my retirement years doing something like that.

I'm usually a couple days late and a few dollars short so I'd wind up way at the back of the line for that one. Nice thought, though.

 

[Maverick223]

Do they pay people to test rifles?

One could go broke (between the ammo & salary) paying me to do such things.

 

[RBH44]

24 tacks eh Jim? Excellent! Looks like I've got my work cut out for me this month!!
I guess I need to get my tail in gear and get out to the range before it's too late!

 

[Mr.Revolverguy]

My Second Try Need Help Scoring

Class -- Unlimited
Savage TR MkII -- Detailed Range Review of this Savage MKII
Nikon Prostaff Target EFR 3-9x40 AO (First time shooting with it today) Scope set on 5
Bipod -- No rear shooting bag just my hand and shoulder
Ammo Wolf Match Target
Score = 21 out of 25
Looking for help on scoring the question marks

First time I shot this rifle with a Nikon P-22 Rimfire Scope 2-7x32 and scored 15 of 25 on a 104 degree day. This scope has been moved to my dedicated 22 AR platform.



I am going to officially call this a score of 23 based on KSCCHTrainer's post #107, Also see post #110

 

[Maverick223]

Mr.Revolverguy, it's hard for me to tell, but it doesn't appear that you quite cut the line on the shots with the question mark. That said, they're close and you have the best view of the target, so I'll go with your assessment.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Mr.Revolverguy & Maverick - I called the target up in my paint program (Corel Paint Shop Pro) and it's high enough resolution I could clearly see grease rings. without things getting too pixellated.

I think he can add at least 1 and maybe 2 to the score for a total of 22 or 23 as the ? one 2nd from the left in the 3rd row up from the bottom has the grease ring barely into the white, but it is clearly there in the enlarged picture. Also, the 2nd from the right in the top row is very, very close. It's still Mr.Revolverguy's call but if it was up to me, I'd say give him the benefit of the doubt on both of those.

The others with the ? marks were iffy, but I can't tell well enough even in the blow up to even be close on them. I tried to post the blown up images, but they didn't come out right. I can see them enlarged in the program but they revert to actual size of the original when I try to upload them.



Absolutely SUPER shooting.

 

[nbkky71]

OK... here's my attempt. I'll admit I went into this with a little hubris, thinking that it can't be that hard at 50yds. Needless to say, I was humbled. Glad I didn't try this with iron sights! KSCCHTrainer: you're one hard-holder to shoot a 24. bravo zulu!

Shot using Marlin 917V with Mueller 8.5-25x44 optic using Hornady 17gr VMAX ammo. Shot off the bench with front & rear bags.

I'll score this as a 21, but I put one questionable shot up for review. Shot is row 1, column 3. I say it's "in", but just barely. What say you?

 

[Mr.Revolverguy]

When I blew this up in aperture on my MAC initially I called it as 23, but I didn't want to be accused of cheating not to mention I like to grade hard. I asked the Range Officer he called 23 also, then when I got home I asked my wife who is LEO and is a Range Training Officer. She said she would give me a 22 but if it were someone else she would give them a 23 she can be such a pain

Now that someone here has confirmed I am going to call it an Official score of 23 if Maverick agrees.

Next I am going to try and get out my CZ452 With Weaver Classic 3-9x32 AO.

 

[Maverick223]

I'll score this as a 21, but I put one questionable shot up for review. Shot is row 1, column 3. I say it's "in", but just barely. What say you?

Looks in to me, no question about it.

Now that someone here has confirmed I am going to call it an Official score of 23 if Maverick agrees.

If it's good enough for the RO and almost good enough for the wife, it's good enough for me.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

KSCCHTrainer: you're one hard-holder to shoot a 24. bravo zulu!

Thanks -- It took 7 targets and around 180 rounds to get the "kentucky windage" figured out on that one even with a 9 power scope. If I'd had even one cup of coffee that morning, the target would have looked more like I fired a shotgun at it.

I've been trying to sell a 6-24 tactical scope I took off my .223 bolt gun when I put an old 10-40 X 55 Tasco World Class on it. No bites on it so I think I'll mount it on the 10-22, put the rifle on a borrowed bench rest mount and see if it's repeatable or just lucky.

Even if it's never used in a match again, this particular target is one of the best practice targets Maverick has come up with yet!

Jim

 

[Maverick223]

Even if it's never used in a match again, this particular target is one of the best practice targets Maverick has come up with yet!

Thanks for the kind words but I didn't come up with this one; if anyone has any good targets that they have made or found (uncopyrighted or with permission from the author) share 'em and we'll give 'em a shot.

 

[Slapshot]

I tried the tackdriver this morning and did not do as well as I expected. I have a Ruger 10/22 with a H-S Precision stock, Jewell trigger, bolt reworked by Que, Fedderson 18" blued bull barrel, and Leupold Vari X III 6.5 - 20 scope. I used a Hart front rest and a protector rear bag. CCI SV at 50 yards. I still have some problems with the stock.unlimited class
Elmo

 

[Maverick223]

Welcome to the match, Slapshot. BTW, 18 is a respectable score.

 

[Mr.Revolverguy]

I agree very respectable heck my first attempt was 15 out of 25. What makes it even more respectable is the fact that your having stock problems.

Good shooting.

I think before the end of the month I want to get my wz-78 out and try the sporting class no optics or rest.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

I tried the tackdriver this morning and did not do as well as I expected. I have a Ruger 10/22 with a H-S Precision stock, Jewell trigger, bolt reworked by Que, Fedderson 18" blued bull barrel, and Leupold Vari X III 6.5 - 20 scope. I used a Hart front rest and a protector rear bag. CCI SV at 50 yards. I still have some problems with the stock.unlimited class
Elmo

Hey Slapshot,
Not bad shooting at all. BTW, you might try some different types of ammo in that barrel before worrying too much about it.

No experience with anything other than the Ruger standard barrel and the Adams & Bennett I put on my 10-22, but the A & B seems to shoot better with match grade ammo (even the cheap Federal Auto Match) and the standard barrel didn't like the match grade stuff at all, working better with the Federal 38 grain bulk pack hollow points you can get pretty cheap at Walmart.

I picked up a brick of Wolf match ammo to try but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I'm sure other 10-22 owners will have some recommendations too - find what the barrel likes and shoot that. Hopefully it won't be something that's so expensive nobody can afford it -

 

[Maverick223]

With regards to trying a few new types of ammunition, I would highly recommend picking up a few boxes of Aguila Match Rifle. It's about as cheap as match gets and it does really well for me. In fact I chrono'd a new batch yesterday and it was shooting 1088fps +/- 2, which is pretty dang good IMO. I have a target that proves it (eeked out a 24/25), but I'm holding out for a perfect score if I get a chance for a few more outings. That said, different barrels will shoot different ammo better than others (mine does the best with RWS Rifle Match, but the stuff is costly and somewhat hard to find).

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Where you getting that Aguila match rifle stuff Mav? I was able to find one brick of Wolf at our new local Cabela's (last one they had) but so far haven't been able to find any Aguila, locally or otherwise.

Edit: Never mind, I located Aguila Match Rifle ammo for roughly $30 a 500 round brick plus about $15 shipping from Cheaper Than Dirt. Even with the shipping, it's about 5 bucks cheaper than what I paid for the Wolf even with Cabela's 10% military and military retiree discount with ID.

I just ordered a brick of the "Match Rifle" and if it shoots that good for me, I'll put my .22lr ammo fund toward getting some more of it.

Thanks for mentioning Aguila. For some reason I keep forgetting about that stuff and I've shot a lot of their center fire handgun ammo. It's cheap and it's very consistent. Wish I had a chrono and a good place to use it frequently.

Jim