get a holster that covers the trigger and carry loaded.... I do.
http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/kd.htm
http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/kd.htm
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Carry locked and loaded in a good holster that covers the trigger.
benEzra
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There are lots of high-quality pistols out there with manual safeties, if you prefer them. Most will be considered "traditional double action," meaning you can fire from hammer down on the first shot, but after that the hammer stays cocked for a lighter trigger pull on subsequent shots.
My personal handgun is a Smith & Wesson 3913 LadySmith in 9mm (compact alloy-frame pistol with single-stack magazine, making it much narrower than a Glock). It is completely drop safe with the safety off (as are all modern S&W's), but gives you the option of putting the safety on if you choose. SIG, Steyr, Taurus, Beretta, and numerous others also make excellent handguns with manual safeties.
As I see it, the biggest drawback to the scenario of having no round in the chamber isn't merely time, but the requirement to have two hands free. With LOTS of practice, you can chamber a round almost as fast as you can draw if you rack the slide while raising the pistol to a firing position. The downside is, what if you are fending off an attacker with one hand . . . with a double-action firearm on safe, you can activate it one-handed.
With the pistol you have, many have suggested simply getting a good holster to guard the trigger and then leaving the chamber loaded. (Just make sure the gun doesn't fall out of the holster.) Note that you would need to treat a Glock exactly the same way you treat your Kel-Tec--don't keep a round chambered if the trigger guard isn't covered. My wife's handgun is a Glock 26 in a Gould & Goodrich paddle holster with a "thumb break" retaining strap.
Bersa .380's are also great guns (and much less expensive than a Smith), but are not drop-safe without the safety engaged. Leave the safety on and you'll be fine.
trapshooter
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Tech,
I only read the first page of responses, but there is a common thread.
A. The p32 is 'not enough gun'. Sorry, but them's the facts. On the other hand, a P32 is better than harsh language.
B. Keep it ready to go.
I agree with both points. Bigger is better. Caliber, that is. And ready to fire, with the safety on, is a good plan. I have firmed up my points of view over the last few months of my life. A gun not ready to shoot is a fairly inefficient club. A Louisville Slugger is more effective. Practice is essential. Be ready, and ready means willing. If the spirit is weak, the battle is already lost. Remember the Boy Scout motto.
I only read the first page of responses, but there is a common thread.
A. The p32 is 'not enough gun'. Sorry, but them's the facts. On the other hand, a P32 is better than harsh language.
B. Keep it ready to go.
I agree with both points. Bigger is better. Caliber, that is. And ready to fire, with the safety on, is a good plan. I have firmed up my points of view over the last few months of my life. A gun not ready to shoot is a fairly inefficient club. A Louisville Slugger is more effective. Practice is essential. Be ready, and ready means willing. If the spirit is weak, the battle is already lost. Remember the Boy Scout motto.
Generally speaking carrying with a round chambered is the way to go.
I don't though.
I can see the point about being ready for a fight at a moment's notice, but I don't really feel that I need to worry about that. I live in the country. There hasn't been a shootout around here since the French and Indian War so I think I am pretty even unchambered. I am pretty well practiced with chambering on the way up or with racking the slide against my hip if I need to.
If all else fails, they will get my knife first.
If I have the gun out with no time to chamber a round, well... the business end of a SIG in the teeth wouldn't be pleasant.
Anyhow, it is a choice that you have to make based on your situation and your level of comfort with carrying that way.
I don't though.
I can see the point about being ready for a fight at a moment's notice, but I don't really feel that I need to worry about that. I live in the country. There hasn't been a shootout around here since the French and Indian War so I think I am pretty even unchambered. I am pretty well practiced with chambering on the way up or with racking the slide against my hip if I need to.
If all else fails, they will get my knife first.
If I have the gun out with no time to chamber a round, well... the business end of a SIG in the teeth wouldn't be pleasant.
Anyhow, it is a choice that you have to make based on your situation and your level of comfort with carrying that way.
ShackleMeNot
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What do you gain by carrying without a round chambered?
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Hemicuda
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Um... most revolvers (I just grabbed up a Smith 637-2) have NO safety... and most are DA/SA or DAO (in defense versions, anyway) these rely on the LONG trigger pull (like the Kel-Tec) as a secondary safety feature (the PRIMARY safety is the one between your ears!)
I don't carry a round short on the Smith... as the likelyhood of "accidentally" pulling the thing all the way back is almost totally nil...
I don't carry a round short on the Smith... as the likelyhood of "accidentally" pulling the thing all the way back is almost totally nil...
cidirkona
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I carry a FireStorm (Bersa) .380 in DA/SA. Tiny little guy with a firing pin/hammer drop safety, although I wouldn't mind at all not having one. The first DA pull is still pretty long and the subsequent pulls are short and crisp.
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jamesisonline
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highly recommend taking a local defensive handgun course in your area. plus you get all the nitty gritty stuff on the laws.
the most important saftey on "any" gun is your finger on the outside of the trigger guard.
keltec or not...just think....gun in holster...safe.....gun outside of holster...unsafe because you see an immenent threat.
most good courses will teach you situational awareness along with all the little things that go with carrying a weapon.
good stuff. i'll be taking some more courses this spring.
highly recommend taking a local defensive handgun course in your area. plus you get all the nitty gritty stuff on the laws.
the most important saftey on "any" gun is your finger on the outside of the trigger guard.
keltec or not...just think....gun in holster...safe.....gun outside of holster...unsafe because you see an immenent threat.
most good courses will teach you situational awareness along with all the little things that go with carrying a weapon.
good stuff. i'll be taking some more courses this spring.
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