!#$%#@ Kids!!

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I think I may have reacted as you. I know for a fact that there is nothing in the structure of my house that will stop a bullet if I was at the door or window looking for the source of the laser.
My question is that you now know there is a 13 year old across the street who was “aiming†a laser. I’ll bet a paycheck he would jump at the chance to visit a range (ask a parent first when he isn’t there) and do some shooting. You may have the next US Olympic Gold small bore medallist right there. :)
 
I don't think I would have reacted in the same manner you did, but that's not to say you acted appropriately. You reacted as if you were threatened, and you did so in a calm and rational manner that didn't hurt anyone. I certainly don't see anything wrong with it.
 
I definitely wouldn't have reacted the same. Not sure if you were right or wrong, I won't make a judgement on that. However, laser pointers are extremely common.
 
Some guy was arrested and charged with stalking when these pointers first became available. He was driving around targeting other drivers with it. That's fine by me, I hope he got some time to think about it, the dimwit could have caused a serious accident.

I've cautioned my kids against misusing them.
 
I remember playing around with some rather large lasers in a technical theater class. Just for fun, we aimed one at a steel plate. I walked up to the plate and held a dollar bill in the beam. After a minute or so, the bill began to smoke and when I pulled it away, it had a very clean hole burned through the center. Some of those things are really potent.

A few years back, some casinos used very powerful lasers as gimmicks to attract people. One aimed a laser from its property on the strip and had the dot visible in the Red Rock canyon area. Anyone who lives in Vegas can tell you that is quite a distance (better than 40 miles) They had to stop when a pilot was temporarily blinded by a moving beam from another hotels laser. The FAA was NOT happy.

I would have ducked down and grabbed weapons. Probably wouldn't have called 911 that soon (if at all), but I don't have children either.
 
I'm not necessarily sure that it was an over-reaction, but I can't honestly say I'd react the same way. There's WAY too many people I know who own these things and love to play around with 'em. I'd probably get out of the laser's path, move to another room or other location, and try to determine the source before dialing 911. I really don't think I'd be drawing my gun either unless I heard shots firing or this laser maintaining position for an extended period of time. If I determine it's the neighbor kid, a phone call to his parents will definitely cure the problem, along with his butt being beaten red my them to deter any future occurences.

Close the !#$%#@ drapes at night!
Well said Matt! A little common sense goes a long way.

Of course, I live in a quiet neighborhood that sees very little crime other than petty juvenile mischief and the too-loud husband and wife fighting. If I was in a neighborhood getting shot up by gang members and drug dealers on a nightly basis, it would be a completely different story.

-38SnubFan
 
Not overeaction at all

I worked back stage at a coutry music festival. Whne the acts were on stage I also worked one of the stage spots. Lee Ann rhimes gets on stage and all of a sudden. Laser pointer. It was coming over my shoulder. I knew it was a laser pointer. It was pissing me off cause the guy was piinging my back and what not.
Cops didnt think it was funny. Took the "threat" seriously. And a couple of people were escorted out the gates. After Rhimes gets off stage> Mc announces new rule. Anyone with a laser pointer keep em in your pocket or you will be arrested.
Btw Lee Ann Rhimes ended here set with Princes purple rain. A rendition that sucked so much maybe it would of been better had she been shot.
 
I like pax's advice. Couple of years ago couple of kids across the street was playing with a pellet pistol. A pellet went through a screen and hit the glass (not broke) in my living room. I collected up the pellet, walked across the street and handed it to the kid. I told him you don't shoot towards my house and I won't talk to your dad. Never a problem since.
 
My neighbor across the street got one of those and pointed it through my rear window of my car. I saw it and my heart did jump into my throat until I found out what and who it was.

I did tell him a thing or two though.

Wayne
 
First, thanks to all for replying.

Now:

You all need to get off StickJockey's back.
Thanks for the backup, atc1man, but I'm not taking it like that at all. This was a completely new experience for me, and I'm looking for honest critique of what happened.

unless Russian spies are out to eliminate him.
Not Russian spies Matt, just random wierdness. Show of hands: who here in THR-land has laser sight for at least one gun? Now, of those who raised their hands, who are Russian spies? ;)

Might I suggest, in similar circumstances, that taking a look and determining the source of the laser dot might be very beneficial while "gunning up" and building barricades.
I did. What I saw was a shadow behind a lace curtain, pointing something at our house.

Close the !#$%#@ drapes at night!
The !#$%# drapes were closed. Unfortunately, they also are of thin, wispy lacy stuff that offers some measure of privacy from the street, but not much else. Heavier, insulated (and opaque) curtains are on the decorating list of things to do, but have taken on a lower priority of late. Since this incident, they are back up on the list.

Again, thanks for the replies, all!
 
I did the same thing a couple nights ago, Stickjockey. No laser dot, but it just occurred to me that someone may be lining me up with one of those .50BMG sniper rifles and I wouldn't even know. The evildoer must have run off when the cops arrived because they couldn't find him. Whew! That was a close one.





(Just kidding. ;) )
 
Just to clarify what the hazards associated with lasers are -

As posted by the Center for Devices and Radiological Health (CDRH) regulation 21 CFR 1040.10 and 21 CFR 1040.11, the standard classification for lasers are as follows:


Class I laser product
No known biological hazard. The light is shielded from any possible viewing by a person and the laser system is interlocked to prevent the laser from being on when exposed. (large laser printers such as the DEC LPS-40 has a 10mW HeNe driving it which is a Class IIIb laser, but the printer is interlocked so as to prevent any contact with the exposed laser beam, hence the device produces no known biological hazard, even though the actual laser is Class IIIb. This would also apply to CD players and small laser printers, as they are Class I devices).

Class II laser products (like laser pointers)
Power up to 1 milliwatt. These lasers are not considered a optically dangerous device as the eye reflex will prevent any occular damage. (I.E. when the eye is hit with a bright light, the eye lid will automatically blink or the person will turn thier head so as to remove the bright light. This is called the reflex action or time. Class II lasers won't cause eye damage in this time period. Still, one wouldn't want to look at it for an extended period of time.) Caution labels (yellow) should be placed on the laser equipment. No known skin exposure hazard exist and no fire hazard exist.

Class IIIa laser products
Power output between 1 milliwatt and 5 milliwatt. These lasers can produce spot blindness under the right conditions and other possible eye injuries. Products that have a Class IIIa laser should have a laser emission indicator to tell when the laser is in operation. They should also have a Danger label and output aperature label attatched to the laser and/or equipment. A key operated power switch SHOULD be used to prevent unauthorized use. No known skin hazard of fire hazard exist.

Class IIIb laser products
Power output from 5 milliwatts to 500 milliwatts. These lasers are considered a definate eye hazard, particularly at the higher power levels, which WILL cause eye damage. These lasers MUST have a key switch to prevent unathorized use, a laser emission indicator, a 3 to 5 second time delay after power is applied to allow the operator to move away from the beam path and a mechanical shutter to turn the beam off during use. Skin may be burned at the higher levels of power output as well as the flash point of some materials which could catch fire. (I have seen 250mW argons set a piece of red paper on fire in less than 2 seconds exposure time !) A red DANGER label and aperature label MUST be affixed to the laser.

Class IV laser products
Power output >500 milliwatts. These CAN and WILL cause eye damage. The Class IV range CAN and WILL cause materials to burn on contact as well as skin and clothing to burn. These laser systems MUST have:
A key lockout switch to prevent unauthorized use Inter-locks to prevent the system from being used with the protective covers off Emission indicators to show that the laser is in use Mechanical shutters to block the beam Red DANGER labels and aperature labels affixed to the laser

The reflected beam should be considered as dangerous as the primary beam. (again, I have seen a 1,000 watt CO2 laser blast a hole through a piece of steel, so imagine what it would do to your eye !)


Registration of laser systems
Any laser system that has a power output of greater than 5 milliwatts MUST be registered with the FDA and Center for Devices and Radiological Health if it has an exposed beam, such as for entertainment (I.E. Laser light shows) or for medical use (such as surgery) where someone other than the operator may come in contact with it.
 
Timely thread considering the recent illumination of commercial aircraft. Not sure what I might have done in the same situation but I admire stickjockey for sharing and having an open mind about the responses. Cool.
 
I have no idea if this has been posted since I only read a handful of the posts.

It is possible to identify the direction a laser is coming from, by comparing the dot being projected onto your wall, to the dot being diffused by your window glass. You can safely do this from out of view, then peak out the window in the genereal direction you believe the light to be coming from. It will be easy to see where the beam is coming from, as laser emitters are quite bright.
 
dunno about overreaction...

but i know at least one event here in Russia, when an overgrown teen (about 16 y.o) had all its sh!it beaten out of him by two or three armed private security guards after aiming his laser pointer at the 'loaded' Mercedes 600CLK, which drove by the youngster ...
 
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