Lawsuit by family of EDP shot/killed by Police

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Witness: Attacker Hit Cop With Hammer

October 27, 2003, 5:47 PM EST


Gary Busch had a hammer raised above his head and lunged toward police officers when he was shot on the sidewalk outside his Borough Park apartment, a witness testified yesterday.

The witness, Kieran O'Leary, currently a police officer in Yonkers, had been among the group of New York City cops who responded to a call about an emotionally disturbed man causing problems in front of 1619 46th St. on Aug. 30, 1999.

O'Leary also said in his testimony in federal court in Brooklyn that he saw Busch twice strike Sgt. Terrance O'Brien with a hammer in a stairwell area leading to the basement apartment.

The testimony by O'Leary painted a more aggressive picture of Busch in the moments before he was shot dead by police than had come out so far in the trial.

The Busch family is suing the city and five officers, including O'Brien, saying excessive force was used in the incident. The city contends the officers feared for their lives when they shot Busch.

But O'Leary also admitted, both on direct examination by Busch family attorney Myron Beldock and cross-examination by city attorney Kanika Juneja, that his testimony in a police internal affairs interview and grand jury differed.

A key difference, O'Leary indicated, was that he had told internal affairs officers that Busch struck O'Brien with the hammer in the stairwell, although he did not say that a few days later in a state grand jury. The officers were never charged criminally.

Beldock, while not accusing O'Leary of giving false testimony, suggested that he and the other officers may have talked about what happened after the incident. O'Leary had been a defendant in the Busch lawsuit but was later dropped. He recently joined the Yonkers Police Department.

O'Leary said he was assigned to drive O'Brien and showed up twice at Busch's apartment the day of the shooting. He said the first time police had a call that a man was dancing naked in the street but discovered a rather calm Busch sitting at the top of a stairwell.

O'Leary said he and O'Brien had to quickly return to the scene after another radio call came over about trouble. It was then, O'Leary stated, that things escalated.

After O'Brien and Officer Martin Sanabria grabbed an African-American friend of Busch to get him out of the stairway, Busch charged up the stairway with the hammer, O'Leary said. Busch struck O'Brien with the hammer once, apparently on his pistol belt, and again on the officer's arm, O'Leary recalled.

After striking O'Brien, Busch than ran onto a sidewalk area with the hammer, O'Leary said.

"He raised the hammer above his head, lunged forward two, three, four feet and that is when we heard shots fired," O'Leary said.

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local...0,853211.story?coll=nyc-manheadlines-brooklyn
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O-u-c-h ! :eek:
 
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A police officer testified yesterday that a hammer-wielding Brooklyn man shouted, "You're going to have to shoot me!" moments before he charged at cops and was shot to death.
Police Officer Daniel Gravitch said Gidone Busch blurted out the threat as he pounded his hammer against a wall just before cops pepper-sprayed and then shot him outside his Borough Park home in 1999.

"I'm not putting the hammer down," Busch yelled, according to Gravitch.

A second cop also testified that Busch was lunging at officers when he opened fire.

Officer Martin Sanabria said he repeatedly warned Busch to drop the hammer, but he refused.

"He was coming at me, charging me," Sanabria said. "I said, 'Drop the hammer.' Then I discharged my weapon. He wouldn't stop."

The cops were testifying at the civil the suit filed by Busch's family against the NYPD and the cops who shot the emotionally disturbed ex-medical student.

Federal Judge Sterling Johnson is presiding over the case, in which the relatives are demanding unspecified damages.

The cops' accounts contradicted the testimony of other witnesses who said Busch had stopped moving toward the officers when they started shooting.

Gravitch said he sprayed pepper spray at Busch after being ordered to do so by a police sergeant. Instead of subduing Busch, the spray only enraged him more.

"It seemed to make him angry," Gravitch said. "He raised the hammer and ran up the steps."

Originally published on October 29, 2003

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/131673p-117531c.html
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I think they are suggesting the possibility that they got together and "got their stories straight" rather than suggesting a violation of rules/laws.

If they "coordinate" their stories too much, they enter the realm of obstruction of justice and perjury.
 
If they "coordinate" their stories too much, they enter the realm of obstruction of justice and perjury.

They cant perjure themselves because they arent in the box - and if they coordinate the facts it doesnt mean that they have lied. Also how is justice obstructed by someone verifying what happened with someone else?

Over here, Police can discuss the case amongst themselves when notes are being written, as long as that fact is recorded and there is no "right, this is what happened" - which is obvious when one compares sets of notes.
 
Over here, Police can discuss the case amongst themselves when notes are being written, as long as that fact is recorded and there is no "right, this is what happened" - which is obvious when one compares sets of notes.
Unfortunately, there are folks over here pushing the agenda that any conversation between law enforcement officers is conspiracy, and all enforcement decisions are based upon corruption or racism unless proven otherwise. That's what the attorney is trying to imply, although its cloaked in the idea that they may have unwittingly contaminated each others memory of the incident.

Edited to add: Hey, this is my 100th post! woohoo :D
 
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