Legal MINIMUM One Has To Tell The Census Takers?

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I've read that the census takers will be asking at least 10 specific questions, and we peons will be expected to answer all 10. It is my understanding that (according to past legal interpretations of the US Constitution) we are only required to answer the one question which asks how many folks live in the home.

So, any lawyers here who can give me a "legal" opinion regarding the soon to come census?

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The 2010 Census form is just 10 questions, such as:

* Name
* Sex
* Age
* Date of birth
* Hispanic origin
* Race
* Household relationship
* If you own or rent

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/about-the-form.php


I really do not understand why anybody would refuse to answer any of those questions... My non-legal answer is just to stop bellyaching long enough to answer 10 simple questions. Legally speaking, I was under the impression you MUST answer all 10.
 
Generic questions.... get over it guys... what is the problem... let me guess... it is the government spying on you finding out where you are and how difficult it will be to break in your house to get to the guns.
 
^that is the fastest growing portion of our population.

OP--Why wouldn't you want to answer census questions, and how is this firearms related?
 
countdown to someone with an infowars link to how they are marking your cordinates with a gps for when we all get tp play wolverines against the gov
 
I am not a big fan of telling them my birthday. Age - no problem, but birthday can be used for identity theft.
 
The constitution only authorizes the .gov an enumeration. Nothing else.

Orignal Clause 3, Section 2, Article 1 of the US Constitution
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Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.
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Enumeration: Process by which persons are counted for purposes of a census.
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I am not a big fan of telling them my birthday. Age - no problem, but birthday can be used for identity theft.
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ummm let me put on my gypsy hat
johnny-carson%5B1%5D.jpg

I found your birthday (but will not post it out of respect)

Found your address and phone number too!

Seriously, ANYBODY can find your birthday. That is a very weak excuse.
 
I really do not understand why anybody would refuse to answer any of those questions... My non-legal answer is just to stop bellyaching long enough to answer 10 simple questions. Legally speaking, I was under the impression you MUST answer all 10.
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Why I refuse to enter anything on the "census" form beyond the number living in my house:

1. The Constitution doesn't grant Congress or any other branch of the Union power to conduct a census of the people. The word "census" doesn't appear in the Constitution.

2. While some courts have stated that the Constitution doesn't prohibit collecting data beyond counting the people, no power has been granted to the federal government to do that in the first place, so those courts are wrong when the whole Constitution is taken into context and due diligence is given to the Tenth Amendment.

3. Congress is mandated to enumerate the number of people in each state to apportion representatives. This is not a power granted to Congress, it's their duty; and Congress shall direct the manner in which the enumeration shall be made by law. This is not a power that has been granted to Congress to thereby create necessary and proper laws for - such as the powers granted Congress in Section 8 of Article I and elsewhere. If it were, it would not have been necessary for the Founding Fathers to include "...in such manner as they shall by law direct," in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3.

4. If Congress wants more than a count of people living in my house, they'll have to amend the Constitution, or find a judge to sign a warrant for my arrest and take me to court and give me a trial before a jury of my peers, and find me guilty of what ever crime I have supposedly committed that has been stated as probable cause on the warrant for my arrest.

5. "Census" and "enumerate" are not synonymous.

6. If I think of more to add, I'll add it.​

If any of us intend to hold the federal government to it's enumerated(not "censused") powers and bound to its enumerated(not "censused") duties, this is as good a place as any to take a stand.

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You should have seen the last census form I got from them a while ago. It was an entire booklet full of specific and personal questions. They wanted to know everything from exact incomes to how many toilets I own. It was out of control. They started harassing us when I didn't get back to them in a "timely" manner...which was shortly after they mailed me that garbage.

I don't mind telling them my age and how many people live here....basic things like that. No problem. If they are going to ask me 100 questions that takes hours of going through paperwork to find the answers, they better be paying me something for my time. I don't care to even share a lot of that information with anyone to begin with.

What I don't get is.....can't they find out that information from other sources? The IRS knows exactly how much I make. The student to teacher ratio in our local schools is public information. There's tons of records involving how many cars use which roadways daily, etc etc. They should be able to gather all of that without bugging us at all (other than the basic questions they are allowed to ask).
 
According to my local paper there is only One question that Must be answered and that is: How many people live at this address?
Of course, They'll be lucky to get anything from me...
 
where have they done those warrant less searches? in real life i mean as opposed to on an infowars release
 
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Why a question specifically hispanic oriented. Why not one for German, Dutch, Irish, etc.?
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There's some wishful thinking here that the government will then come close to determining how many hispanics are really in this country! Good luck with that.
 
I'll try to make this gun related then. Two years ago my family was chosen for a year long survey, in 3 month increments. I willfully complied with their request. The survey took an hour to complete, give or take. The same employee came to my home for the duration.
All the questions were the same every time. Right down to how much we spent on TP. Here's the gun related part. It had been a pretty good year, and every time she asked about "sporting goods" expenditures I had a new gun, and a couple hundred in ammo for it.
My aluminum foil hat disintegrated in a toilet bowl cleaning accident years ago, and I never made a new one :evil:
 
where have they done those warrant less searches? in real life i mean as opposed to on an infowars release
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You seem to be a bit obsessed with infowars. If I were a fan of infowars I might even think you work for a top secret agency which has a mission to secretly advertise for infowars.
 
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