LEOSA Changes...

[481]

Typical internet cop-out.

Call it whatever you'd like.

That I have the good sense not to run right down to the "Records Bureau" and post several reports just to satisfy you when you've already made it clear that you are not going to change your mind speaks only to my intelligence. It gives your "argument" no merit no matter how much you might "feel" that it does.

Same as above.
I'm not sure if you realize this or not, but people dont always share your opinion. In which case they disagree. I am sure that in your experience, disagreement is always equal to argument, but that is not so. If you cannot disagree and post something to back up your viewpoint, then all you will ever do is argue. Dont accuse other people of arguing with you because you are not capable of stating evidence or backing up your claim.

The fact that I have chosen not run right out, gather and post several reports just to satisfy you, is not a debate tactic. It is a decision not to waste my time catering to someone who is so clearly unwilling to view the topic in an unemotional manner:

It stinks. Plain and simple. More class warfare and elitism is all it is.

 

[ilbob]

Attack the LEOSA or defend it, but its not necessary to attack each other.

As for whether retired cops are more likely to be attacked than other retired folks, I doubt anyone has more than anecdotal information on that. Older folks tend to be perceived as easier targets in general.

The last time around the NRA got some support from the gun owning public for this bill by claiming it would somehow be helpful to the rest of us. Since it has failed miserably in that respect, I wonder if they will get much support this time around. You can only go to the well so often. Its even possible that some NRA members might actively fight it, hopefully within the organization.

Personally, I intend to tell the NRA exactly what I think about this kind of bill. If enough NRA members do the same thing, maybe the NRA will listen and not support it.

 

[.45&TKD]

to include current and retired law enforcement officers of the ......., the Federal Reserve System,....

WHAT!!! The Federal Reserve has their own police force????

The Fed is not even a government agency and is privately owned!

Where is Ron Paul on this one?

 

[MisterMike]

WHAT!!! The Federal Reserve has their own police force????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Police

 

[ilbob]

WHAT!!! The Federal Reserve has their own police force????

The Fed is not even a government agency and is privately owned!

Where is Ron Paul on this one?

Other private entities have their own police, like railroads.

 

[glockman19]

The Federal Reserve is NO MORE FEDERAL than Federal Express.

Yet they have been given a right as Law Enforcement?

With legislation like this it only a matter of time before we no longer acknowledge their authority.

Like Star Wars our great REPUBLIC is crossing to the Dark Side.

 

[pbearperry]

If I remember correctly,the LEOSA bill got passed more on the idea that trained,armed people on the streets may be available to stop thugs and the like even if they were out of their home states.I think even most cop bashers would agree that if someone was in trouble,they would get help most likely from a LEO than an armed person who is outside of that field.The average person just doesen't want to get involved.Believe it or not,there were many cops that were not in favor of this bill because they were afraid of turf wars.What they were confusing is that this bill puts more trained and armed folks out on the street than before,and not allowing out of state cops to have police powers.

 

[481]

pbearperry-

Your description of events jives with how I remember the events surrounding LEOSA 2004.

More "good guys" (and ladies) with guns on the streets is always desireable.

 

[glockman19]

pbearperry-

Your description of events jives with how I remember the events surrounding LEOSA 2004.

More "good guys" (and ladies) with guns on the streets is always desireable.

Here we go again....I guess that the honest tax payer who foots the bill are not "good guys".

This is the Us and them that I speak of. ALL LEO are not "good guys" .

I have gone to many Police commisson meetings. Would you believe that 16% of the LAPD have had "Domestic Violence" issues? Yes...it's true. but because they could not do their job without a firearm...it is swept under the table.

481, What about "good people" regardless of their Vocation or Profession?

 

[481]

Here we go again....I guess that the honest tax payer who foots the bill are not "good guys".

This is the Us and them that I speak of. ALL LEO are not "good guys" .

I have gone to many Police commisson meetings. Would you believe that 16% of the LAPD have had "Domestic Violence" issues? Yes...it's true. but because they could not do their job without a firearm...it is swept under the table.

481, What about "good people" regardless of their Vocation or Profession?

Here we go again....I guess that the honest tax payer who foots the bill are not "good guys".

I never said or implied anything of the sort. To imply that I hold the citizenry that I served and protected for many years as being anything less than "good people" is ridiculous, ignorant and very "low road" of you.

I suspect that you are looking for nothing more than a fight and I've no desire to satisfy such childish behavior.

 

[Autolycus]

Got a source for that stastic about 16% of the LAPD having domestic violence issues?

 

[glockman19]

Got a source for that stastic about 16% of the LAPD having domestic violence issues?

Yes it is public. It was in and continues to be a subject of discussion at the Tuesday morning meetings.

Feel free to look it up or get it through a FOIA.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

More Heat Than Light

This seems to have exhausted its civility quotient.

I don't see it going anywhere productive.

Pulling the switch in . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .