M-1 Carbines or M-1 Garands, anyone? South Korea auctions guns to fund miltary

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How can we get these? If they go through an American importer, they will just jack the price up to what they already are.
 
They are not assault rifles! Don't feed into this, they are M1s that hold 8 rounds and fire one shot for every pull of the trigger.

I'm glad comments to the original article reflect my views also.
 
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If they go through an American importer, they will just jack the price up to what they already are.
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Well, I think you have to go through an importer, but the good news is that the more there are on the market, the less each one is worth. Very simple issue of supply and demand, a concept that seems to escape most people in here.
 
Are they coming in via the CMP?
If not, I seem to remember some regulation about re-importing US made military arms directly being a no-no for commercial purposes. (CMP was exempt.)

Maybe that's been changed as I see that BIG 5 has been offering M1s and Carbines recently.
 
Very simple issue of supply and demand, a concept that seems to escape most people in here.
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I have to disagree with you on that statement. Most people ,if not all,on this forum have watched ammo become scarce and go up exponentially in price. The rush on firearms has made some that were once readily available hard to get. Supply and demand is a rather basic concept and I doubt it escapes many on this forum,maybe a mall ninja or two.

An M1 is not an assault rifle, think about how that sounds. Say it with me "Assault rifle" , the media has been circulating this BS to vilify semi auto rifle owners,because the guns are black..:confused:
 
Sounds good. Now, how can we get the Russian s to do the same with every bolt gun and semi-auto they've stashed? Theve've got to have a bunch somewere.
 
Sounds good. Now, how can we get the Russian s to do the same with every bolt gun and semi-auto they've stashed? Theve've got to have a bunch somewere.
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They've already been sold off to warring 3rd world countries and mexican drug lords.
 
Well, the Garand is not an assault rifle, it's a "battle rifle," IMHO. The M-1 Carbine is almost an assault rifle but lacks the full auto function. There was an M-2 which had it... but I think an assault rifle requires a collapsible stock and a "thing that goes up." :rolleyes:
 
The M2 was full auto and a lot of them had a full stock and round bolt. A lot of the old Blue Sky Imports that came over from South Korea in the 90's were Full auto but were converted back but still retained the round bolts and the pot bellied stock with selector cut out. The Garands and Carbines were not in the best condition.
 
Does anyone remember the "Blue Sky" invasion? A large amount of carbines came in with many of them in poor condition. Unless the Koreans were biding their time and holding back the good ones, I'd expect more of the same. I'd bet the Garands aren't in the best shape either, especially considering the corrosive ammunition of the day. As to M2's being reimported- i tend to doubt it as "once a machine-gun, always a machine-gun". Now that is not to say that there won't be some great bargains as the law of supply and demand finds it's level. I
would love a couple of decent carbines and or Garands.
 
Some of the "Blus Sky" carbines weren't in good shape but some were in very good condition. I've got a couple.

As to M2's being reimported- i tend to doubt it as "once a machine-gun, always a machine-gun".
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Unless the receiver is marked M2, and some were when manafactured, this rule can't be applied to the M1 Carbine. It's rare (or use to be) that you could pick up a M1 Carbine without it being loaded with M2 parts.

If the Carbine was converted and registered with the ATF, it is also forever a M2.

If a registered M2 conversion kit is used in a M1 Carbine, when the conversion kit is removed the Carbine becomes a M1 again.
 
Are they coming in via the CMP?
If not, I seem to remember some regulation about re-importing US made military arms directly being a no-no for commercial purposes. (CMP was exempt.)
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I may be mistaken. I have been before. But I think the restriction is on Lend Lease firearms. Firearms that are/were US Property and lent to other countries are restricted to CMP import. Big 5 and GI Joes had M1 carbines that I'm pretty sure came from Korea last year. They were priced at 2-3 times what the CMP prices were, and the condition of the ones I saw were hideous, compared to CMP specimens.
If the weapons were bought outright by the Republic of South Korea I don't think there are import restrictions. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
The M2 was full auto and a lot of them had a full stock and round bolt. A lot of the old Blue Sky Imports that came over from South Korea in the 90's were Full auto but were converted back but still retained the round bolts and the pot bellied stock with selector cut out.
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The round bolt was not designed solely for the M-2, contrary to what many think; At about the time the M 2 carbine was developed they simply decided to omit the machining steps to make a flat bolt and use it on both M-2 Carbines and M-1 Carbines.
A number of M-1 Carbines will be seen with round bolts.
 
These are not going through the CMP, Korea owns these guns and will be selling them to an importer.

Pretty impressive the government allowed the importation of them. They didn't have too and could have denied it.
 
hm?

The M1 was first manufactured in 1926 and was used by U.S forces in the Second World War, Korea and during the Vietnam War. The model was only replaced by the M16 in the 1980s.

I thought that was the 60's? Or am I mistaken?
 
235 for a garand!!!
160 for a carbine!!!

I LOVE SOUTH KOREA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I doubt they go for that over here though
 
"The M1 was first manufactured in 1926 and was used by U.S forces in the Second World War, Korea and during the Vietnam War. The model was only replaced by the M16 in the 1980s.

I thought that was the 60's? Or am I mistaken? "

The M1 Garand was adopted for service by the U.S. Army in 1936, but production was slow. Most units of the U.S. Armed Forces were still armed with the 1903 Springfield at the start of the U.S. involvement in the war on December 7, 1941. It wasn't until production was pumped up at the Springfield Armory, and then Winchester, that the rifles started to get to the troops. My father was at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked by the Japanese, and shot at the straffing Japanese planes with his '03. When he went to Guadalcanal in October of 1942, he was still armed with the same '03, as were the rest of the Marines there. They first saw M1's when they were relieved by the Army, but the Marines retained their '03's for about another year.

The Garand was replaced by the M14 rifle in 1956. When I went into the Marine Corps in 1965, I was issued an M14, and carried it for the next 6 years. The M16 was issued to troops embarking for Vietnam around 1968 or so, but a lot of the stateside troops in the Marine Corps were still issued M14's.

The M16, and it's variants has been the issue rifle since then.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
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