Man arrested for toting rifle.

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Man to be arrested for toting rifle.

This looks like a case of some people really over reacting to me.
http://www.al.com/news/press-register/index.ssf?/base/news/118466401148560.xml&coll=3&thispage=1

Tuesday, July 17, 2007By RON COLQUITTStaff Reporter
Mobile police said they plan to arrest a man today who scared people Friday evening as he walked through a Spring Hill neighborhood with a loaded, semiautomatic AK-47-style rifle.

Officers confiscated the rifle Friday but could not take the man into custody until they had a warrant signed by both a magistrate and the man who made the complaint, Mobile police spokesman Officer Eric Gallichant said.

Gallichant said that on Monday, a magistrate signed a warrant for a charge of disorderly conduct, and officers expected to obtain the signature of one of the witnesses today. Once that is done, the man will be arrested, he said Gallichant said, however, that he would not release the man's name Monday because officers had not yet obtained the second signature needed to activate the warrant.

While it is not illegal to carry an assault rifle, it is against the law to use the gun to alarm people, Gallichant said.

"I think it is important that people understand that although he may not be specifically charged with carrying a weapon out in the open like that, just the act of doing so can cause public alarm, which is covered by disorderly conduct," Gallichant said.

"Carrying one around in that manner in the neighborhood, even though he did not point it at someone, is not to be taken lightly."

The man who had the gun lives on Oakwood Lane, Gallichant said.

Jeferey Quinelly, another Spring Hill resident, filed the complaint and most likely will be the person to sign the arrest warrant, Gallichant said.

Spring Hill resident Sean P. Costello said the man, who is in his early 20s, was spotted by several people about 6 p.m. Friday, walking along Oakwood and Dilston lanes.

Costello said Monday that he did not see the man, but two of his neighbors and his gardener did. He said that although no one saw the man point the rifle at anyone, people were frightened. He said the gardener, who had just started cutting the grass, was so frightened that he fled without finishing the job.

Costello said the whole incident frightened his 4-year-old daughter.

Even though the man didn't threaten anyone or point the rifle at them, such incidents can lead to violence, Costello said.

"When you've got someone walking up and down the street with a loaded assault rifle ... there is always the possibility that it can get out of hand, and people can get hurt," he said.

Larry McCoy, owner of Larry's Gun Shop in the 2700 block of Pleasant Valley Road just off Government Boulevard, said Monday that he sells a Romanian-made, AK-47-style weapon for $400.

McCoy said federal law states that a person 18 or older who is not a convicted felon can legally purchase a semiautomatic assault rifle.

Anyone who meets the federal requirements can be in and out of his shop within 10 minutes, armed with an AK-47-style weapon and bullets.

McCoy said, however, that he will not sell an assault rifle to anyone under 21 because he does not believe a teenager is mature enough to handle such a weapon. He said the Spring Hill incident disturbs him.

"It is not socially acceptable," McCoy said. "You just don't do that."

EDIT: Here is the email for the newspaper [email protected]
 
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Sounds about right to me, if I saw a guy with a loaded AK in front of my house I'd call the cops too.

Larry McCoy, owner of Larry's Gun Shop in the 2700 block of Pleasant Valley Road just off Government Boulevard, said Monday that he sells a Romanian-made, AK-47-style weapon for $400.

And he's a damn good guy too.
 
Thank the media for this. I regularly carried my rifle slung on my shoulder around when I was a kid. Didn't bother anyone at all not 20 years ago.
 
What if he was walking from a friend's house back to his house after a range trip? Wouldn't this open the door for me to be arrested walking across the street to my favorite dove field this fall?
 
He said the gardener, who had just started cutting the grass, was so frightened that he fled without finishing the job.
I wonder, did said gardener also soil himself while fleeing in abject terror?

Frelling sheep.... :banghead:

trueblue1776, pardon my ignorance of the AK-47 but how does one determine if the weapon is loaded or not by casual glance?
 
Can I have the newspaper editors arrested? After all, I'm very alarmed and frightened by the stories they're printing regarding the erosion of my rights...
 
It amazes my that people under 21 are not mature enough to handle a semi-automatic rifle but the minimum age to enlist in the military is 17.

"O.K. son, by all means join the military and use fully automatic and burst assault rifles to shoot at insurgents, but you can't buy a pack of Marlboro's."

Does anyone else realize how RIDICULOUS the laws are nowadays? :confused:
 
Even though the man didn't threaten anyone or point the rifle at them, such incidents can lead to violence, Costello said.
:scrutiny:

Um, a lot of different things can lead to violence...

"I think it is important that people understand that although he may not be specifically charged with carrying a weapon out in the open like that, just the act of doing so can cause public alarm, which is covered by disorderly conduct," Gallichant said.

Isn't carrying a rifle in a supposedly non-threatening manner specifically what he was doing?

What exactly was he doing that was disorderly? Was he twirling in circles balancing the implement on his nose??

Oh, Mcoy should be sued for age discrimination too!
 
If I saw someone walking by with an AK over the shoulder, I'd probably take interest because it's unusual, but surely wouldn't call the police.


"It is not socially acceptable," McCoy said. "You just don't do that."

Hrm. I wonder why...
 
What exactly was he doing that upsets people so much? From what I can tell, he didn't threaten anyone with it. So why are these people afraid?

As to the gun shop owner, I have to wonder why he's selling firearms if he'd be afraid of them in someone's hands.

And he's a damn good guy too.

He's a damn *SOMETHING*, that's for sure.
 
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Can I have the newspaper editors arrested? After all, I'm very alarmed and frightened by the stories they're printing regarding the erosion of my rights...

And their support of Rosie, Al Gore, Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton......

What happened to unbiased reporting of the news?


Also, I wonder if the people in this neighborhood run inside when they see a dog/fast car/motorcycle/someone carrying a baseball bat, etc.
All of these things 'could be dangerous'.

No crime was committed here. Return his property and leave him alone.
 
It's legal for me to carry a rifle.

If some ninny sees me and gets scared, now, suddenly it's illegal for me to carry a rifle.

Exactly what action have I taken which constitutes a crime?
 
Yes, that's very interesting that if you're not 21 you can't handle "such a weapon" but you can enlist (as was mentioned earlier) at 17. No cigarettes or booze though.

Sometimes I think these laws are so backwards. It really does make me sad.

FWIW I walk from my car to my house back and forth (parked on the street sometimes) with uncased AK GPWASRS slung on my shoulder all the time, and with my 6" GP-100 holstered on my hip in a very liberal neighborhood and have never had a comment made. I'm sure of two things:

1) If I decided to walk to a friend's house with those on my back people would not call the cops. Why would they now if they haven't before?

2) They would not be able to determine if it was loaded or not. They could guess based on whether there was a magazine in the gun or not, but they wouldn't actually know.
 
pardon my ignorance of the AK-47 but how does one determine if the weapon is loaded or not by casual glance?

I think what he meant was that the magazine was inserted.

And it could also just have been an Airsoft AK as well.
 
From Packing.org:
Attorney General Graddick on March 22, 1984 issued opinion 84-00205 to the District Attorney of Butler County Alabama. That opinion stated that a person while on foot could openly carry a firearm on his/her person without a permit of any kind. The firearm had to be visible and all restrictions applied as those that applied to holders of a Concealed Carry permit. Title 14 –175 states that “No person shall carry a pistol in any vehicle …” So if you open carry and you want to get into a vehicle you must unload and secure the firearm or you are in violation of the law.

You can open carry while afoot but must unload and secure the firearm when you get in a vehicle.


So, one CAN open carry while afoot, however, it appears that the law will get him on some other "offense". Seems kind of ridiculous to me. "If we can't get a person one way, we'll figure out how to get them in another fashion". :rolleyes:
 
Unfortunately, people become afraid if you "raise your voice" or "make a fist"...or get in an argument. It's "sexual harassment" if they don't like the joke or just want to get some time off.

The ninnies think they have a right to security and our government (through the MSM) is perpetuating that fiction.
 
McCoy said, however, that he will not sell an assault rifle to anyone under 21 because he does not believe a teenager is mature enough to handle such a weapon. He said the Spring Hill incident disturbs him.

"It is not socially acceptable," McCoy said. "You just don't do that."

This dude is pathetic. He is insulting tens of thousands of US servicement... not to mention millions of ordinary americans who certainly ARE sensible enough to have weapons. If you are sensible enough to drive a car, then you are sensible enough to own a rifle.

No, he ISNT a "good guy". He's also giving ammunition to our lapdog media.
 
Jeez....gimme a break!

"I think it is important that people understand that although he may not be specifically charged with carrying a weapon out in the open like that, just the act of doing so can cause public alarm, which is covered by disorderly conduct," Gallichant said.

"Carrying one around in that manner in the neighborhood, even though he did not point it at someone, is not to be taken lightly."

Ok, ladies and gentleman, in case you don't get it. Someone saw him walking down the street minding his own business, and...... felt bad.

The police/magistrate response? Typical...I will paraphrase,

"I am the only one in this room PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH......"
 
I'm disgusted by this too.

I was tempted a couple weeks ago to ride my bicycle to the pistol range for some weekend shooting (My truck was in for some warranty work over the weekend). I decided against it purely due to sheeple-ism.

Terrible.
 
i believe here in texas, you can walk up and down any street with a rifle/shotgun as long as it's pointed up in the air and at no one. i wouldn't do it, but anyone could.

i dont get what the big deal is.
 
There has got to be some kind of suit this guy can file against that person. They obviously didn't know the law, and if they are so freakin paranoid about someone OC, they they should move to France where they'll fit in with the other sheep. A guy, walking down the street, minding his own business, is not Disturbing the peace, or inducing panic, or any other claim. The Magistrate should be canned. You don't sign a warant because someone is upset, particularly when the Law already covers it.
 
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