March Centerfire Match:

Maverick223 · Mar 1, 2012

Welcome to the Centerfire Match for the month of March! This match is open to any centerfire rifle. This match is meant to be challenging and educational, but most of all FUN. Hopefully it will get you out to the range and shooting your rifle. If you have one handy, make sure an bring a friend too.

->Iron sights and non-magnified optics and red dots. Shot at 50yds.
->Scopes and other magnified sighting devices. Shot at 100yds.

There are Three Rifle Classes in the magnified division (only one for the non-magnified division):
->Unlimited/Benchrest Rifles (highly modified/custom rifles, machine rests, heavy rifles (over 20lbs), very high magnification optics [over 20x] may be used).
->Target Rifles (modified rifles, rests, heavy rifles (over 10lbs), high magnification optics- over 10x [with an upper limit of 20x] may be used).
->Sporting Rifles (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles). Rests/sandbags/bipods are not permitted in this class, but shooting sticks (either the crossed or walking stick variety) are allowed. Use of a sling is encouraged. Shoots may be taken from any position. Rests/Sandbags/bipods are not permitted in this class.

50 Yd. (Irons) Target: See image in the link below. Scale to 100% on standard 8.5x11in. paper. The objective is to fire one shot at each ring (feel free to color them to increase visibility). Scored as indicated for nicking the ring, and double that for a shot lying completely within. No penalties for a miss, but if one of your shots stray and there are two holes in the same circle the lesser score is the one for record.

100 Yd. (Optics) Target: Same as above.

When you are satisfied you've done your best post/attach (or shoot me a PM) a photo or scan of your target with as much of the following information as possible: Forum name (or name you want posted in the results), Rifle, make, model, vintage (if known), Sights/Optics (with magnification if applicable), Ammo (or load, if you care to divulge your secret recipe), Position, Distance, Conditions (in/outdoors, wind, temperature...). Multiple submissions are allowed (in same or different class with same or different rifles).

Self-scoring is encouraged and appreciated. All submissions due before March 32nd.

Samclrk · Mar 1, 2012

I got in on last month`s too late.My problem was the scope.Not the Sierras.My Friends,you better be getting plenty of practice,cause I`ll be in this month.LOL

Maverick223 · Mar 1, 2012

Samclrk, Glad you got your problem sorted. Was it loose or just wouldn't maintain repeatability?

Samclrk · Mar 1, 2012

It did`nt have a parralax adjustment.I was having problems getting the same sight picture..Basically,the problem was me.I took the rifle to a very good machine shop and he drilled the barrel for my Unertl scope.I shot the sierras good,.Maybe better than the VMax.One problem,I had the bullets too close to the lands...I`m going back out tomorrow.I`ll post a picture tomorrow.

Samclrk · Mar 1, 2012

this is the little Bee

Maverick223 · Mar 1, 2012

Yep, parallax can cause all sorts of problems, particularly with a high-magnification optics (their designers of such riflescopes should be shot). That reminds me of an otherwise excellent scope, the Minox 3-15x42mm...which someone left the side-focus out of; which severely limits its utility.

Anyway, you have a nice looking rifle, and certainly have a good scope fitted. Custom mini-mauser?

Sergeant Sabre · Mar 4, 2012

So let me get this straight: you shoot one round at each circle, but if two rounds land completely within the same circle, you only get scored for one of them, and if one is cutting the line, and the other is completely within, you only get the score of the lesser, cutting round?

It's a good target. I wish more people would compete in the centerfire matches, and the non-magnified / iron sight class in particular. There HAS to be more AR-owners on THR with just irons or an Aimpoint or EOTech...

Maverick223 · Mar 4, 2012

So let me get this straight: you shoot one round at each circle, but if two rounds land completely within the same circle, you only get scored for one of them, and if one is cutting the line, and the other is completely within, you only get the score of the lesser, cutting round?

Yep, don't miss.

FWIW, you don't have to take a shot at each of the circles.

It's a good target. I wish more people would compete in the centerfire matches, and the non-magnified / iron sight class in particular. There HAS to be more AR-owners on THR with just irons or an Aimpoint or EOTech...

You and me both. Unfortunately, despite many other rifles sporting irons, an AR isn't amongst those. Personally I'd really like to see a few more mil-surp. and silhouette type rifles get in on the action.

Sergeant Sabre · Mar 5, 2012

Yes, anything in the irons / non-magnified class would be excellent. You are correct; other than AR owners, there seems to be quite a mil-surp following on this forum, as well. It would be nice to see them make a showing.

TurtlePhish · Mar 6, 2012

If I get a chance to go out to the range this month... Mosin M44. Let's all pray that I bring back a target that isn't charred and burned.

Maverick223 · Mar 6, 2012

I don't know...you might want to use a flash suppressant powder just to be sure.

sixgunner455 · Mar 7, 2012

Is your M44 scoped? Might not be able to make it at 50 yards without setting the target completely on fire, let alone singeing it ...

TurtlePhish · Mar 7, 2012

Nope, irons all the way.

I'll put a couple fire extinguishers next to the target to shoot when it starts to catch.

Samclrk · Mar 7, 2012

I won`t have to worry about setting the target on fire..I`ve not been able to hit it yet.

Sergeant Sabre · Mar 7, 2012

As in, not at all? Not even on the paper at 50yds?

Samclrk · Mar 7, 2012

I`ve been shooting today at 130 yds.Some times I get five in an inch circle and some times it`s a two inch circle.Can`t understand why.If it does it some times,why not every time...Seems like it is me.

Maverick223 · Mar 7, 2012

If it does it some times,why not every time...Seems like it is me.

Not necessarily. A stock fit/bedding (pay particular attention to the barrel channel), barrel consistency (as it heats up), or optics/mount problem could be the culprit. I'd try the last one first, as you have recently swapped the scope, making it the most likely culprit IMO.

Sergeant Sabre · Mar 8, 2012

Two inches at 130 yards isn't horrible. It's not going to win any matches, but that's really not bad accuracy at all.

Maverick has some good suggestions. I would also add that you should make sure you are holding or resting the rifle the same each time. If you are shooting off-hand using a sling to stabilize the rifle, for example, a different amount of tension on the sling can cause a different point of impact. Resting the rifle on the fore-end of the stock vs. on the barrel also can cause a different point of impact.

Samclrk · Mar 8, 2012

Thanks Mav and Sarge..
Yesterday,I made a U cut out in a piece of wood to go on the rest to fit the fore arm tight.Could have been the problem.Today,I replaced it with a sand bag.Today,I was shooting one hundred yards in twenty to thirty mph cross wind.The Hodgdon`s data gives nine grains,max for the fifty-two grain Sierra bullet.I shot from eight to thirteen grains.Seems like the Sierras like a clean barrel and fast bullet speed.It`s still getting the flyers.Seems like the faster the bullet the less flyers.I can`t figure why it will shoot nine good ones and throw one off.I`m going to stay with eleven,twelve and thirteen grains powder.

Maverick223 · Mar 8, 2012

No problem. Looks like that rest could have been the problem after all. At any rate, I'm glad to hear that you were able to get the kinks (at least for the most part) worked out.

Sergeant Sabre · Mar 9, 2012

Is that one little bullet, spoiling your sub-MOA group into a 1.5" group, what you are calling a "flyer"? I guess, strictly speaking, it is, but with groups like that it's not really a big problem, is it?

It is odd, though. That one bullet does seem to take an entirely different path than the others. Are you sure it's not damaged? Keep in mind consistency in the base of the bullet is much more important to accurate flight than the tip.

Maybe you could post at a more reloading-specific forum for better advice.

Whiskey11 · Mar 18, 2012

Went out and shot this today with my R700 however I'm a bit confused on scoring. Are we using the numbers in the circles as the score and doubling that if it's completely within that ring or are we counting each circle as 1 point and 2 if entirely in?

Edit: Derp, went and looked at the Rimfire match and saw they are using the scores in the rings. Hold on, I'll scan and post my results!

Edit 2:

Alrighty, here we are. First target isn't that great... In fact, I'm not sure what happened there but it is what it is! Second one is ok though! I think I'm in the "Target Rifle" crowd if only barely. Rifle specs at the bottom.

First: (75/182)

Second: (116/182)

I will let you decide on the #11 on this target, There is a tear into the black ring that got folded flat in the scanner. It's either a 116 or a 105.

Rifle:

Remington 700 SPS DM 24" Sport Barrel, 1:10 twist
Accuracy International AICS 1.5 Stock
Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 6.5-20x50mm M1 target knobs, MilDot reticle
Talley 20 MOA scope base
Burris X-Treme 30mm rings
Crappy Harris Bipod Clone

Load:
Winchester Cases Neck Sized
CCI #200 Large Rifle Primers
Sierra 168 gr Sierra Match Kings
43.5gr Varget
Magazine OAL (2.825 or something, longer than a standard round).

Shot from the prone with a rear bag and using the bipod.

Range conditions were 76º, strong left to right wind gusts of around 10-15 MPH. Shooting at 100 yards.

Edit 3 (last I swear!): Yes, I edited out the Evike logos on the picture. Mostly because I hate the company (used to have a terrible reputation and it hasn't gotten much better) and to save ink.

Maverick223 · Mar 18, 2012

Whiskey11 said:
I will let you decide on the #11 on this target, There is a tear into the black ring that got folded flat in the scanner. It's either a 116 or a 105.

It's hard to tell from the scan, I'll go with your assessment.

Yes, I edited out the Evike logos on the picture. Mostly because I hate the company (used to have a terrible reputation and it hasn't gotten much better) and to save ink.

That's fine by me; I don't know anything about 'em, just didn't want to cause a ruckus by taking their logo off of a free target. One of the reasons that I have been creating my own as of late (was just too busy earlier this month, so I took this one out of my archives).

Whiskey11 · Mar 18, 2012

Evike sells Airsoft Guns and equipment. Their reputation was that of one who was horribly unreliable at getting your order correct. Simple orders (one, very specific part) were often wrong. Airsoft guns they sell were notoriously unreliable when the same brand sold elsewhere was nearly flawless indicating either getting used guns sold as new, or them opening the gearboxes on the new guns and tinkering with them. I really do not like them. I hear (but refuse to believe) that they are getting better about it... That said, it didn't take long to remove it

Maverick223 · Mar 22, 2012

Colorized Target:

Courtesy of GI_Jared, here is a copy of the match target in technicolor. Feel free to use either: color for clarity, B&W for thrift (or if you'd like use a B&W colorized with a crayon for a combination of the two). Enjoy.

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