Marlin 60 or Rugar 10/22

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I am thinking of picking up a semi auto 22. I see in the ads a Malrin 60 at Dunhams for $129 and Ruger 10/22 at Dicks for $159.00.


Which of these is better of the two rifles for the money? I had been leading towards the Ruger. But if i can save $30 i am all for it.

If i am correct there is alot more Rugar add ons then the Marlin.

Thanks for any info

Brion
 
I shot my buddy's Marlin 60 and thought, "ok....this is pretty decent for a $75 gun."

Then I bought a Ruger Youth Model 10/22 for my kids and thought, "Wow, this is priceless!"

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I think in the long run you'll be SO glad you spent the extra $30 on the 10/22. Parts and upgrades are EVERYWHERE, as well as the experience and wisdom of millions of 10/22 owners.
 
Having owned both, I'd go with the Ruger. My Marlin was more accurate than the Ruger, but was more prone to jamming. That may just be mine.
 
Marlin 60 for me and I own both. 60 only jams if you aren't shooting clean ammo, any green on the brass and it sticks every time. I picked up some of those cheap WWB HPs and they shoot great through the 60, but jam the 10/22 something awful. The 60 I regularly shoot, I should add, was bought by my grandfather and given to my father for his first rifle. It later became my first rifle. The model 60 is the best all the way around.
 
yes you can certainly spend another 500 bucks to maybe make the ruger as accurate as the marlin, or get the marlin, an aftermarket boyds stock, a Tasco Varmint 6.24.42 scope, a great sling, molyfusion for the action, bolt assy. bbl., and two boxes of every 22 round being currently made , here in America, and other worldwide brands. Also pay for gas and many trips to the range, your range time, targets, shoot and see spots, a range bag filled with goodies, and still have about 100 bucks left over. Here is my Marlin mod 60 , and all the above goodies I mentioned , I have, and what she will do with multiple diff brands of 22 at 100 yds. i doubt any Ruger can do this.
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one more thing, you should be able to find that marlin for 100 bucks new somewhere, and used for 60 to 75 , at a gunshop. i am not a fan of the new ones, because they use that walnut dip paint job on them. underneath the wood is bone white.
 
RangerRuck ??

If that's the best your Marlin can produce, I'm not impressed. I've owned both the Marlin 60 and now a Ruger 10/22. My Marlin would jam once it warmed up, could only shoot that gun cold. My Ruger doesn't care if it's hot or cold, clean or dirty, good ammo or bad, it just keeps going and going.

My Ruger 10/22 is a practically bone-stock Wal-Mart carbine that will easily shoot as accurately as your Marlin. Only mods are bolt buffer, mag release, and a PowerCustom hammer (hammer only, no shims or fancy springs). She's got a Barska 3-12x40AO scope on top.

I challenge you...we'll shoot for "pink-slips" and put an end to this "Marlin is more accurate" nonsense. Your **** Marlin with it's fancy stock will find a new home banging around behind the seat of my truck. :neener:

Did you mention that your Marlin has a new bolt and barrel? Hmmm...curious. Factory stuff was garbage? Moly...yea, I guess you'd need it. Rem-oil works for me. Costs a lot less too.
Anyway...lets put your hot-rod Marlin up against my little stock Ruger and see what happens.
 
I've got 2 60s and they both jam pretty bad no matter what ammo I use. I'll be buying a 10/22 at some point.
 
I had a Model 60 since 1978, and it doesn't jam. Had a Ruger 10/22, and with the orginal mags, it doesn't jam....I like the 10/22 better, because it is handy, a carbine, has a mag instead of tube feed, and can get aftermarket mags, etc. They are both good guns, and if I did it over, I would buy the Ruger. I think it is of better quality and better design, plus all the goodies you can put on it!
 
Being the proud owner of 2 10-22s I'm biased. the only jams I've ever had were stovepipes when using the cheap hicap plastic clips. The ruger uses the lip of the clip to eject the shell, and when the plastic lips of the cheap aftermarket clips start to wear down I'd get stovepipes with the best and the worst of ammo. As for accuracy, well I'm happy with 2 MOA from either of mine. but with an old Condor 25 rnd metal lipped clip I can hit anny target eventualy.
 
Buy the one that fits best and feels good in your hands. Personally I thought the 10/22 felt bulky and brick-ish. I went with the Model 60.
The 10/22 is a great rifle. It wouldn't have the following that it does if it were a POS. I just happened to like the 60 better when it come to fit.
 
to kymasabe: as you can see that, marlin there is stock, i like it that way. no i will not shoot you for it, I love that rifle! i will shoot you bragging rights, though, and not just one favorite round, lets go top twenty! yes all the parts are factory, I bought it as a pawner for 70 bucks, somebody tried to jam in a 22 mag round, problbly someone bought it for a kid as a present, and didn't have any idea as to what ammo to buy. I have several other pics of good shots with different ammo that it shoots with, i just happened to pick those. Also remember this is at 100 yds, not fifty, I had a 10 mph left to right cross wind, and shot about 50 different brands of ammo on this particular Saturday at American shooting centers, here in houston. With Range officer's Nestor and Ray as a witness. So I'm saying I was firing pretty fast. I'm not bragging on me here, it really was the rifle. I imagine, with some really settling down, picking out some choice ammo, and taking my time, i could really lay em down. But i don't care, really. I just love this rifle, it shoots so darn good, with about 20 different brands of ammo, all under 1 inch at 100 yds, and it never jams.
Molyfusion i use on any of my rifles that i see can shoot pretty good, you should get some, too. I am not a Ruger hater, as a matter of fact , i'm getting one next weekend at the Pasadena gun show , near houston, from a guy who has been doing custom Ruger trigger jobs for 40 years, and he says it shoots great.
If you go over to rimfirecentral, you will see , that on average, statistically speaking, most , if not all out of the box marlins will outshoot out of the box Rugers any day of the week, this is not just from marlin /Cz fans, but admitted by ruger owners themselves. A lot of them also say they spent 100's of dollars to get their rugers to shoot good.
Usually you don't have to spend anything to get a marlin to shoot good, and their stock 17's use Green Mountain bbl blanks. wow!
so please , don't take it that I was knocking ruger, like i said, im getting one. but im getting one from a guy who personally owned this for a long time, and did his own great trigger job on it.
But that doesn't change the fact , that everything I said, about all the goodies you could get with a Marlin, as opposed to spending extra money to make a Ruger shoot good, is true. It is what it is.
It also doesn't mean you can't get lucky and get a good shooting Ruger out of the box. It's just more likely to happen with a marlin, I think everybody here knows that.
to flyboy, the ruger is a darn fine looking rifle no doubt, and yes those mags are cool and quite reliable, andy easier to have a couple of spares in you pocket, allready loaded if you are in the field, than to stop and reload a tube. Also they are flush fit, which is a plus. i agree with the other dude here, who said go pick em both up, check them side by side, see how they feel to you. Sage advice. Right now i like my beloved Marlin, after next week , and i spend some quality range time with the ruger , who knows? No matter what happens, i will not spend any money to upgrade it.
I also pulled off a major coup and am also buying from the same guy , a Marlin levermatic 56 made in '55. Speed cams in the lever , you only need to move your bottom two fingers in the lever about 2 inches , up and down, and it is reloaded, you never have to move your cheekweld. Plus it is the only model marlin ever made, in the new era, that is 100 percent steel. no plastic or aluminum parts anywhere. It also shoots short ,long ,long rifle, so im pretty geeked up about that! who knows; this may turn out to be my favorite!
Kymasabe, if your stock ruger shoots that good or better, then you got a keeper!
if you go over to rimfirecentral right now, go to the factory /stock 10/22 section, and you will see lots of threads about how to improve their accuracy. There is actually a thread over there right now called, "was there ever a time when stock 10/22 bbls were accurate?" I'm not making that up.
 
I'll pick the Ruger, specially the new ones. It has longer barrel and a better looking stock. No ugly barrel band.
I have 3 of the old kinds, all with after market stock and all are great shooters from the get go.
Now for accuracy only, I had a really good experience with Marlin 880SQ. I've heard great reports with CZ's also. But they are both bolt action.
 
I have had very limited experience w/ the Marlin, but I do own a 10/22...shoots fine, lots of accessories and a really high fun factor! :D
 
Having owned a Marlin 60, I've got mixed feelings. Thing was finicky about ammo... the higher the velocity, the better, and if it had even the slightest shadow of a doubt, it would jam. Tube mag was also annoying to load. Cleaning the action required (for me) saturation with Hoppe's, a good scrub with a toothbrush and dentist's picks, a long blast of compressed air, a thick application of Breakfree CLP, more scrubbing and picking, and one last blast of air. Thing was accurate, though.

I'm considering getting a 795SS to help teach new people. Mags are easier to load, the synthetic stock and stainless steel are more resilient than blue and wood, and the sights are a lot easier to see. They're also light, light-recoiling, and kinda neat-looking too. :)

Rugers, though, have the whole customizability thing going for them. You can turn it into a bullpup, a small MG-42, a dual "gatling" gun, etc. Mag capacities go up to 30rds. Even the basic blue and wood version looks like an M1 Carbine. I'm predisposed against Rugers, though, 1) for their politics and 2) since I've never really been impressed with anything they've done.
 
Well...Of all the guns I own (about a dozen right now) my favorite is my Model 60...

WAY more accurate than a $125 semi auto has a right to be, and WAY better than an out-of-the-box 10/22 (proven numerous times)...My best shooting buddy has a 10/22(modified), and he won't bring it to the range, any more. To shoot along with my Model 60 he brings his Winchester 52 Target w/ 24x Unertl scope (total cost $2500)...and he hasn't quite outshot me yet...

In the past few months we've tried all the different kinds of ammo we could get our hands on to see what would shoot best...the 60 will shoot almost anything into about 1" (10 shot group) at 50 yards, but it prefers "standard velocity". With Wolf Match Target, I can pretty consistently shoot dime-sized groups (10 shot)at 50 yards. So can my buddy, who's left handed, and its a little awkward for him. (This is shooting off a solid rest from a bench). I may mount a better scope, as I think it can do slightly better (It's got a $40 Tasco Pronghorn 3-9x, now)

During all the time I've owned the gun, and throughout all the ammo testing (probably 2000 rounds) I've had about 4 jams, all minor. I don't even clean it often, as it shoots better "dirty". If I clean it, it takes about 40-50 rounds to settle down and shoot really good.

Lately I've been "sniping" crows off my back porch with it...Max range to the back of my lawn, where the woods start, is almost exactly 100 yards. So far, I'm batting 1000, shots have been between 50-60 and 100 yards. Crows are DRT, even using the Match ammo, as opposed to hollowpoints.
 
I have a marlin mod 60SS and it has never jammed and is quite accurate; very nice gun and pretty with the gray laminate stock and stainless bbl. Won it at a DU banquet on a $1.00 raffle. To tell you the truth though ever since I discovered the .17hmr I don't shoot my .22's anymore.
 
Kymasabe,

My Ruger 10/22 is a practically bone-stock Wal-Mart carbine that will easily shoot as accurately as your Marlin. Only mods are bolt buffer, mag release, and a PowerCustom hammer (hammer only, no shims or fancy springs). She's got a Barska 3-12x40AO scope on top.

I challenge you...we'll shoot for "pink-slips" and put an end to this "Marlin is more accurate" nonsense. Your **** Marlin with it's fancy stock will find a new home banging around behind the seat of my truck.

Forget "pink slips". I have before put up a standing offer of $1000 to go head to head with any totally UNMODIFIED 10/22. My Marlin is absolutely 100% stock from the factory. NO "fancy stock", or anything else. Its also been well used (was given to me by a friend before he died) and I've put at least 3000 rounds through it, since. I also have a couple friends that'll bet serious money besides the $1000 I'll put up, as no one has ever come close with an out-of-the-box 10/22, or even some more expensive guns, yet.

Rules as such:

Total cost of gun and scope, less than $225 (I got mine free, but for these purposes, we'll assume I paid $125 for it)

Any scope allowed (see above):

Up to 50 rounds to sight in/practice.

Best 3 out of 5, 10 shot groups, measured center to center, from any kind of rest, at 50 yards. Target style is shooters choice.
 
I bought my Model 60 in 1982 with the money I saved up mowing lawns. It was my first "real" gun. I don't shoot it that often anymore, but when I do, I always re-amaze myself with the accuracy of this gun. Nearly all rounds touching at 25 yds from a rest, with cheap ammo. Quarter sized groups at 50 yds is common. I've never owned a 10/22, but I guess I'm spoiled with my Model 60 and never really wanted to buy another .22 rifle.

The one thing about the 10/22 though is all the accessories available. If that's a road you want to travel, then it's head and shoulders above the Model 60. But for a highly accurate quality fun gun, the Model 60 can't be beat.
 
A $159 10/22 can turn into a $1100 dollar precision tool for assassinating NRA small bore targets in just days. Ask me how I know. :p

Your wife may banish you to the couch and the dog may stop greeting you at the door, but you will have the coolest rimfire on the block and the satisfaction that you built it yourself. The darned things are so modular and so many companies make goodies for them that no normal man can just have one 10/22 and let it remain stock.

The 60 is a fine rimfire, but the 10/22 gets my vote. Funds being tight, I might get the 60 first and then plan on a 10/22 later. I love 22's and think that a man cannot have too many.
 
If you want "add on's" - then the clear choice is the 10/22.
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If you want something you can make almost any modification you can imagine to, get the Ruger.

I've owned a Marlin 60 for a little over a month and I have put about 500 rounds through it with different ammos and no jams. It is accurate and cheap. I think you would be happy with either of these rifles.
 
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