maybe ive been wrong about ak accuracy. how accurate is yours?

how accurate is/was your ak47


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Azizza, I can and have hit targets at 200 yards and beyond with AK-pattern guns. However, there's no denying that a more accurate rifle increases the likelihood of hitting your target, which is a good thing, especially if you're engaging a target that's only partially visible, or you must employ an unorthodox or impromptu shooting position that may not be as stable as shooting from a bench.
 
While on the outer edge of acceptability I think that is fine for a combat weapon where the normal engagement range is going to be less than 100 Yards. Heck probably within 50 depending on the environment.

Well, as I said before, if you don't plan to engage targets beyond 100 yards, then an AK is probably a reasonable choice.
 
A couple of things:

First, MOA is a measure of precision, not accuracy. You can have a gun that shoots 1 MOA and still miss the target. Fortunately, a precise gun can be made accurate by adjusting the sights until they are on target. An accurate gun - one where the center of the spread is right at the point of aim - cannot necessarily be made more precise.

Second, ammo play a huge factor in precision. You'll find that real sub MOA rifles deliver that kind of accuracy using a particular load. Be skeptical of anyone who claims their rifle is sub MOA without specifying a particular loading. The variation in almost all military ammo (excepting specific match ammunition) ensures that no one is going to shoot sub MOA groups with surplus ammunition no matter what the rifle is. A great rifle cannot compensate for ammunition that is only capable of three or four or six MOA.

One thing I have discovered about AKs is a lot of their reputation for being wildly inaccurate comes from shooting military surplus ammuntion. Shooting good commercial or handloaded ammunition from an AK can be an eye opening experience.

Finally, the AK is what it is. Keeping in mind that 70% of all infantry small arms fire occurs at 100 yards or less, and 90 at 300 yards or less, the AK has enough accuracy for its envisioned role as a superior SMG. 4 MOA is adequate to strike a human torso at 300 yards. More than adequate for ranges like 75 yards (the average range of engagement in the ETO during WWII).

Like any tool, you should employ the AK withing it designed parameters. You wouldn't drive a screw in with a hammer (well, some might).

The AK was not meant to be a precision rifle or a hunting rifle. It was designed to be a combat rifle for use at normal combat ranges in a very hostile environment. It is designed to go bang every time and hit someone less than 100 meters away, despite abuse and neglect, in any weather.
 
If I am in a gun fight with an enemy with 100 yds between us, does it really matter that his moa is 4 inches better than mine???

How much of the target is exposed?

More to the point, combat, and more particularly combat within 100 yards is only one possible purpose of a rifle it is also likely the most unlikely use for the typical civilian buying a rifle. So even if we accept that there is no difference between 1 MOA and 4 MOA rifle it doesn't follow that it is laughable for users to be concerned about the accuracy of a weapon

One thing I have discovered about AKs is a lot of their reputation for being wildly inaccurate comes from shooting military surplus ammuntion. Shooting good commercial or handloaded ammunition from an AK can be an eye opening experience.

+1.

I can and have hit targets at 200 yards and beyond with AK-pattern guns. However, there's no denying that a more accurate rifle increases the likelihood of hitting your target,

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