Military Heritage Indian made musket blown up
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Jim Watson
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Save me the ootoob, did they first shoot it with a normal proof charge of say 1/3 to 1/2 over the service load?
unclenunzie
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They seemed to be firing it with successive charges 150 grains higher than the last, from about 300 to the final >1000+. I guess they wanted to "prove" how tough these "non-firing" replicas are. They are possibly built well enough to handle normal charges, but I have no way of knowing that. The idea of buying one and drilling the vent hole for actual firing use scares me enough not to do so.
In the video after splitting the muzzle (but before discovering damage mid barrel) he says it could probably be cut off and still used. I wouldn't do that even with a certified, proof-tested, intended to be fired model once it had been subjected to overcharges like that.
If I was going to buy a replica it would be one made for firing and I'd stay within the recommended range of charges/loads, whatever they might be. That said, my only experience with muzzle-loading long guns is a Hawken style 50 cal that I bought from Buds a few years ago. It was kinda fun and made lots of cool smoke.
In the video after splitting the muzzle (but before discovering damage mid barrel) he says it could probably be cut off and still used. I wouldn't do that even with a certified, proof-tested, intended to be fired model once it had been subjected to overcharges like that.
If I was going to buy a replica it would be one made for firing and I'd stay within the recommended range of charges/loads, whatever they might be. That said, my only experience with muzzle-loading long guns is a Hawken style 50 cal that I bought from Buds a few years ago. It was kinda fun and made lots of cool smoke.
Lefty38-55
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Such barrels have been proofed with 400-grain loads and 2 roundballs, with no ill effects. I have that test methodology and test results, along with analysis and tests from the reknown HP White Test Lab … somewhere in my files … regarding DOM barrel from India.
midland man
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well this make me feel better about my indian made musket from this same company as i bought the indian trade musket in 20g flintlock and i drilled the hole myself and i use up to 110gr of 3f and 2oz of shot as mine dosent have a choke in the end of the barrel. but overall mine shoots just fine and this video proves these guns are plenty tough if used with common sense in mind!
hawg
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There was one verified report of one blowing up. It was a reenactor using a blank charge. I don't see how a blank charge could blow a barrel no matter how cheaply it was made unless maybe the muzzle was plugged. This video pretty much proves these barrels are what they say they are. The vent isn't drilled to get past Indian gun laws.
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How many lives those Indian gun laws have saved…
Lefty38-55
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For this incident here, from those at the event, there were 7 or more blank charges loaded down the barrel before it finally discharged. The actual test report is attached.
I will say that the fire locks in the absolute worst condition that I've ever handled were or are owned by reenactors ... they just don't clean them! Yeah, perhaps that's a little harsh to stereotype all of them, as I certainly respect what they portray, but be that as it may ... c'mon man, where is the company commander or armorer in this regard????
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Pat Riot
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Interesting. Not something I would try, but if I come across an Indian flintlock I will not immediately discount it.
Anything to bring in subscribers........ I won't even click on it.
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