Minneapolis firefighter charged in man's death

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§ 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in
Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against
another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the
force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the
other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief
that the force was immediately necessary as described by this
subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:

(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person
against whom the force was used:

(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was
attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied
habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;

(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was
attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the
actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or

(C) was committing or attempting to commit
aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual
assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;​

(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force
was used; and

(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity,
other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or
ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.

Items 2 & 3 are separate from 1. They are not joined with an AND. With 2 & 3 there's an "option" involved, one or the other can be applied. the law should be read

... The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:

(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:

(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was
attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied
habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;​
...The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:


(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and

(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.

While Huggett may have "provoked" Peach earlier, time and distance mitigated that provocation.

There is no case law in Texas that I'm aware of where a person killed another who had illegally enter the actors home. Unfortuneately for Huggett, this occurred in Wisconsin. He may be toast.

 
We know VERY few actual facts. All this is little more than wild speculation; certainly nothing to get so worked up over.
 
I know I am unpopular telling THR this over and over, and I know people do not want to hear what they do not believe, BUT YOUR HOUSE IS NOT A FREE FIRE ZONE. It is not automatically "O.K." to take a fellow human's life just because this act transpired inside your home.

The insane danger created by the myth of "Castle Doctrine" (which I've seen referred to as some sort of protective fog around each gun owner) creates dangerous and false illusions inside people's minds that whatever they do is O.K. because they are in the right. As always, it depends.


Then isn't this guy's being charged absolute proof that your "Myth of the Castle Doctrine Theory" is wrong?


Because this guy is being charged it shows that with the Castle Doctrine, REAL criminals are charged, while innocent homeowners are not?


If this guy has in fact committed a crime, like luring the man over by telling him to come over so they could talk it over like adults and then shooting him, and was NOT charged, then that would be the Myth of the Castle Doctrine. But since he is being charged, then I would say the Castle Doctrine is working correctly.
 
self defense

As folks on this forum know, in addition to lecturing on the law and self defense, I have handled literally hundreds of self defense cases, both where self defense is an absolute, affirmative defense and where self defense plays a mitigating role. I have tried many self defense cases to juries, including murder cases. I also practice primarily in Minnesota, the jurisdiction next door to where this incident took place, so I am familiar with MN law. I am not so familiar with Texas law, but then we don’t use Texas law much here. I do some work in WI with local counsel, but let’s pretend this was MN.

I always stress that there are really two things to remember:
1. reasonableness
2. every case is unique on its facts

Self defense cases are highly fact specific. All sorts of factors need to be taken into account. The jury will hear the facts. Then they will be instructed in the law. Since I do a Minnesota state court practice, here is an example of what they are given in MN:


CRIMJIG 7.05: "Self Defense--Causing Death."
No crime is committed when a person takes the life of another, even intentionally if Defendant's actions -- action is taken in resisting or preventing an offense which Defendant reasonably believes exposes the Defendant to death or great bodily harm.
In order for a killing to be justified for this reason three conditions must be met. First, the killing must have been done in the belief that it was necessary to avert death or great bodily harm. Second, the judgment of the Defendant as to the gravity of the peril to which he was exposed must have been reasonable under the circumstances. Third, Defendant's election to defend must have been such as a reasonable person would have made in light of the danger perceived and the existence of any alternative way of avoiding the peril. All three conditions must be met, but the State has the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the Defendant did not act in self defense.


CRIMJIG 7.06 SELF DEFENSE--DEATH NOT THE RESULT
Defendant is not guilty of a crime, if defendant used reasonable force against ______ to resist (or to aid ______ in resisting) an offense against the person, and such an offense was being committed or defendant reasonably believed that it was.
It is lawful for a person who is being assaulted and who has reasonable grounds to believe that bodily injury is about to be inflicted upon the person, to defend from such attack, and in doing so the person may use all force and means which the person believes to be reasonably necessary and which would appear to a reasonable person, in similar circumstances to be necessary to prevent the injury which appears to be imminent.
The kind and degree of force which a person may lawfully use in self-defense is limited by what a reasonable person in the same situation would believe to be necessary. Any use of force beyond that is regarded by the law as excessive.
* * * *

(The rule of self-defense does not authorize one to seek revenge or to take into his own hands the punishment of an offender.)

This is the bold outline, but of course the instructions are tailored to fit the specific case and circumstances. Obviously, all I know is what I read in the attached article – which may or may not be accurate. Oftentimes, the actual facts are different than even the initial investigation, much less the news media account of the initial investigation.

Having heard the testimony, with the instruction of law in hand, the jury has to decide. Basically, they are deciding if the defendant acted reasonably.

So – if this case was on my desk, things that would occur to me would include that Minnesota law includes consideration of a duty to retreat in the overall reasonableness analysis – but not in cases occurring in your own home.

In addition, Minnesota case law in cases involving self defense in the home and the closely associated concept of defense of dwelling would be helpful in crafting an advantageous jury instruction.

For example see:

State v. Carothers
http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/supct/9906/c89886.htm

That case discusses some important concepts, including the use of deadly force in defending against commission of a felony in the home.

“The intentional taking of the life of another is not authorized by section 609.06, except when necessary in resisting or preventing an offense which the actor reasonably believes exposes the actor or another to great bodily harm or death, or preventing the commission of a felony in the actor's place of abode.” Minn. Stat. § 609.065.

Another useful case on self defense on the home is State v. Glowacki

Supreme Court http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/supct/0107/c8991507.htm

On remand http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctapun/0110/1507.htm

Original appeal http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0007/c8991507.htm


Breaking in the door of an occupied dwelling with intent to commit a crime therein (in this case likely an assault) is a felony in Minnesota – so I would argue for an instruction in accord with that. The more interesting question is whether I was “lying in wait” and attempting to lure the decedent in, making it premeditated homicide rather than self defense.

Although I generally agree with Mr. White that most cases that sit in my office and say "it was self defense" are actually mutual combat, I would question that in this case. No matter how someone goads or taunts you, it is still likely on you if you go to their residence and break in the door with intent to assault them.

And the fact of the matter is – a case like this will run hundreds and hundreds of pages of investigative reports, at a minimum. Many homicides I have been involved in run over 10,000 pages, with one recent case in the 40-50,000 page range. Obviously, there are lots of facts we don’t know – and any of those could change the analysis or outcome.
 
@ blacksheep

Indeed... what a damn mess. I also know a local firearms instructor who was in a bad neighborhood and had to draw his revolver on a BG, who then called MPD to give a description of this dude who evidently likes to lunge at people with a tire iron, and waited and they never showed up. Now granted, this was the 3rd precinct, where evidently the police are not required to enforce laws, but still...:barf:
 
The finer points of law

csmkersh,
I am not a lawyer, but I'm fairly certain your reading is incorrect. The "or" you highlighted connects "A", "B" and "C" clauses - any of the listed crimes is valid justification. The "and" connects "1", "2" and "3" as the necessary prerequisites for self-defense.

If your reading is correct, based on your second quote:
...The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:

(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and

(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
this would mean that in Texas, you could shoot someone and claim self defense as long as you didn't provoke the other person and weren't otherwise engaged in criminal activity. That doesn't seem correct. Self defense would require some sort of crime (part 1) to be justified.
 
Well, a year has passed, and the news never even bothered to get the story right. Even when confronted, they said they got their information from the prosecuting attorney. If this is true, why did he give them false information?

We've learned that the shooting did not occur at the girlfriend's house. She was living with the firefighter in his Wisconsin home. kstp.com just repeated this same falsifications.

Did anyone ask how the text messages began? Did they begin with the girlfriend and her exboyfriend? Did the firefighter decide that he could defend her, especially when she was pregnant with his baby?

Did anyone mention that she had previously had a restraining order put on John? That he had shot off a gun in their home before, hitting a wall? Yes, maybe a few mentioned that.

Was John paying child support for his son? Was he using meth? A lot of the blogs of people claiming to have known him said that he was into meth. Would that have been a factor? Did his autopsy check for drugs?

When they talked about alcohol being involved, did the news media try to convey that it was John Peach, and not the firefighter, who was intoxicated? One small article stated the alcohol content of both victims. It was John who was intoxicated.

Did most of these news stories bother to mention that there were three men, and not just John Peach, who showed up at the firefighter's residence? There is one blog stating that these other two carried guns. When John was shot, and they ran away, did they have guns? Did the deputies bother to find, and search them? Just because the fire fighter told the truth, that he didn't see any guns, doesn't mean there weren't any. If two of the men actually broke into his house, how could he know if any of the three had guns, or not? If they had the balls to break his door down, they had the balls to complete their task at hand, if the firefighter had been armless. There could have been 1, 2, 3, or 4 dead that night.

The trial will begin on March 2nd, but will there be anyone there who can sort out the facts from the media hype? The media has already cast a dark cloud over his character. Let's hope the jury will see through all this.

Why are the prosecutors dragging this out so long? Will the facts come out in court?

The latest news is bringing out all the old lies again. And this time it is because the firefighter was stopped by the Tribal Police because he broke his bail by drinking. Some people drink to escape. After a whole year of waiting for a trial (that should have been dismissed in the first place), can you say that you wouldn't drink? The news is trying to correlate this with their old story that alcohol was involved in the shooting.

The news made it sound as though the firefighter was enticing John Peach to come over by belittling him. It seems to me, that telling John that he is a 230 lb. ex serviceman, could be an attempt to keep him at bay. And how many men would just allow another man to belittle their girlfriend with vulgarities, etc? There were blogs that John Peach came over because he thought his son was in peril. Did anyone question John's son about whether the firefighter treated him good or bad?

Does anyone know what specific injury kept John from working? They said his autopsy showed that he had a heart ailment. Could this have been from using drugs? No one wants to rag on the deceased, but these two facts were only used to validate that he was at a disadvantage.

So far, this whole process has done nothing but repeat the old lies. Isn't there someone out there that can assure this man of a fair trial? Why did the prosecutors require so much time to say so much ado about nothing? Why didn't anyone get the facts out?

Let's all pray that this jury is lead by God, because the chance of them getting the truth out, without Him, is just about as impossible as it was for the associated press to keep from stretching their stories to shock and awe their readers. Maybe the Press could be sued to help pay for some of the many expenses he's accrued, while trying to help raise his little daughter. But he is not a lawyer, so the news dares to go on. Isn't that an irresponsible
irony?

Please post if you see or read anything positive in this case.
 
Jeff White got two things right on this thread right out of the box.

First, that this didn't happen in Texas. That stuff about the "Castle Doctrine" is irrelevant. I choose to live where I live, and not in, say, Massachusetts, because in Massachusetts you have a duty to retreat from your own home. I do not, here. I don't know about the cheeseheads.

Second, from Post Number Two of this thread, is his point about "mutually agreed combat." This happens a lot. It's illegal around here, but is a major factor in deciding the extent of criminal liability, defenses and mitigating factors. Around here, it's NOT illegal to PROPOSE mutually agreed combat, but it IS illegal (around here) to take substantial steps toward it. Still, it rarely comes up in those words on the face of the pleadings, because a substantial step toward mutually agreed combat typically turns into the crime of terrorizing, assault or disorderly conduct. Disorderly conduct, by the way, is what mutually agreed combat is charged as, around here. No big deal. But using a gun, whether in mutually agreed combat or otherwise, escalates the whole situation. Deadly force makes it an aggravated assault. Firing the gun and hitting your target makes it an elevated aggravated assault, and maybe attempted murder. Destruction of your target takes you into the Big M, and it's only at that point that affirmative defenses like self-defense apply. And if your assailant was invited or encouraged to engage in mutually agreed combat, most of the legal grounds for self-defense fall away. Oops.

Many people don't always understand that their silly words online can carry far-reaching, unanticipated consequences.
 
there is some irony about coming on and whining about the press et al using innuendo and character assasination before launching into a campaign of just that against a dead guy
 
drivemedic, OK, now I feel really out of place....Zombie thread? I guess it was more of a rant because the news media treat this kinda stuff so unprofessionally. Maybe I don't fit in because I'm not well versed on law. Was just fishing for facts on this story. My father had a similar incident happen with a known felon on his property, and the news media made life hell for he and my family. I like to see them clean up their stories. Maybe I don't belong in these blogs. Just fishing for more facts.......but I do love the USA
 
in theory, if you go at a person with the goal of getting them mad enough to attack you...so that you can shoot them and justify self defense, that is murder.

Being that these two CHOSE to have a verbal altercation, is it right that the shooting be examined VERY CAREFULLY to see if it is a clever guy steering a dumber guy into a colllision with a bullet.

as for the news covering an incident and totally taking one side...then dropping it and never bringing it up again, that is because our news is not INFORMATION it is now INFOTAINMENT all about getting the best ratings.
 
Does anyone know if evidence supports the claim that the dead guy broke through the door?

Here's a supposition: Suppose the firefighter responded to the banging on the door by opening it.

If that door doesn't appear to have been breached by force then the one side of the story may be false.

A beligerent man, tired of dealing with the new girlfriend's baggage, decides to deal with him once and for all. Provokes or invites him to come settle things, lets him in and shoots him.

It's a clear case of self defense.....clear to the firefighter who seems not to be the brightest of the bulbs at the store.
 
And the fact of the matter is – a case like this will run hundreds and hundreds of pages of investigative reports, at a minimum. Many homicides I have been involved in run over 10,000 pages, with one recent case in the 40-50,000 page range.

Wow!

Sounds like it's going to be expensive. I don't even like the expense of getting a will updated.

Obviously, there are lots of facts we don’t know – and any of those could change the analysis or outcome.

Good reason, I should think, for not judging on the basis of media reports.
 
Wisconsin code:

939.48
939.48 Self-defense and defense of others.

939.48(1)
(1) A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.


939.48(2)
(2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:


939.48(2)(a)
(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.


939.48(2)(b)
(b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.


939.48(2)(c)
(c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.


939.48(3)
(3) The privilege of self-defense extends not only to the intentional infliction of harm upon a real or apparent wrongdoer, but also to the unintended infliction of harm upon a 3rd person, except that if the unintended infliction of harm amounts to the crime of first-degree or 2nd-degree reckless homicide, homicide by negligent handling of dangerous weapon, explosives or fire, first-degree or 2nd-degree reckless injury or injury by negligent handling of dangerous weapon, explosives or fire, the actor is liable for whichever one of those crimes is committed.


939.48(4)
(4) A person is privileged to defend a 3rd person from real or apparent unlawful interference by another under the same conditions and by the same means as those under and by which the person is privileged to defend himself or herself from real or apparent unlawful interference, provided that the person reasonably believes that the facts are such that the 3rd person would be privileged to act in self-defense and that the person's intervention is necessary for the protection of the 3rd person.


939.48(5)
(5) A person is privileged to use force against another if the person reasonably believes that to use such force is necessary to prevent such person from committing suicide, but this privilege does not extend to the intentional use of force intended or likely to cause death.


939.48(6)
(6) In this section "unlawful" means either tortious or expressly prohibited by criminal law or both.


939.48 - ANNOT.
History: 1987 a. 399; 1993 a. 486; 2005 a. 253.


939.48 - ANNOT.
Judicial Council Note, 1988: Sub. (3) is amended by conforming references to the statute titles as affected by this bill. [Bill 191-S]


939.48 - ANNOT.
When a defendant testified that he did not intend to shoot or use force , he could not claim self-defense. Cleghorn v. State, 55 Wis. 2d 466, 198 N.W.2d 577 (1972).


939.48 - ANNOT.
Sub. (2) (b) is inapplicable to a defendant if the nature of the initial provocation is a gun-in-hand confrontation of an intended victim by a self-identified robber. Under these circumstances the intended victim is justified in the use of force in the exercise of the right of self-defense. Ruff v. State, 65 Wis. 2d 713, 223 N.W.2d 446 (1974).


939.48 - ANNOT.
Whether a defendant's belief was reasonable under subs. (1) and (4) depends, in part, upon the parties' personal characteristics and histories and whether events were continuous. State v. Jones, 147 Wis. 2d 806, 434 N.W.2d 380 (1989).


939.48 - ANNOT.
Evidence of prior specific instances of violence that were known to the accused may be presented to support a defense of self-defense. The evidence is not limited to the accused's own testimony, but the evidence may not be extended to the point that it is being offered to prove that the victim acted in conformity with his or her violent tendencies. State v. Daniels, 160 Wis. 2d 85, 465 N.W.2d 633 (1991).


939.48 - ANNOT.
Imperfect self-defense contains an initial threshold element requiring a reasonable belief that the defendant was terminating an unlawful interference with his or her person. State v. Camacho, 176 Wis. 2d 860, 501 N.W.2d 380 (1993).


939.48 - ANNOT.
The reasonableness of a person's belief under sub. (1) is judged from the position of a person of ordinary intelligence and prudence in the same situation as the defendant, not a person identical to the defendant placed in the same situation as the defendant. A defendant's psycho-social history showing past violence toward the defendant is generally not relevant to this objective standard, although it may be relevant, as in spousal abuse cases, where the actors are the homicide victim and defendant. State v. Hampton, 207 Wis. 2d 369, 558 N.W.2d 884 (Ct. App. 1996).


939.48 - ANNOT.
The right to resist unlawful arrest is not part of the statutory right to self-defense. It is a common law privilege that is abrogated. State v. Hobson, 218 Wis. 2d 350, 577 N.W.2d 825 (1998), 96-0914.


939.48 - ANNOT.
While there is no statutory duty to retreat, whether the opportunity to retreat was available goes to whether the defendant reasonably believed the force used was necessary to prevent an interference with his or her person. A jury instruction to that effect was proper. State v. Wenger, 225 Wis. 2d 495, 593 N.W.2d 467 (Ct. App. 1999), 98-1739.


939.48 - ANNOT.
When a defendant fails to establish a factual basis to raise self-defense, prior specific acts of violence by the victim have no probative value. The presentation of subjective testimony by an accused, going to a belief that taking steps in self-defense was necessary, is not sufficient for the admission of self-defense evidence. State v. Head, 2000 WI App 275, 240 Wis. 2d 162, 622 N.W.2d 9, 99-3071.


939.48 - ANNOT.
Although intentionally pointing a firearm at another constitutes a violation of s. 941.20, under sub. (1) a person is privileged to point a gun at another person in self-defense if the person reasonably believes that the threat of force is necessary to prevent or terminate what he or she reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference. State v. Watkins, 2002 WI 101, 255 Wis. 2d 265, 647 N.W.2d 244, 00-0064.


939.48 - ANNOT.
A defendant asserting perfect self-defense against a charge of 1st-degree murder must meet an objective threshold showing that he or she reasonably believed that he or she was preventing or terminating an unlawful interference with his or her person and that the force used was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. A defendant asserting the defense of unnecessary defensive force s. 940.01 (2) (b) to a charge of 1st-degree murder is not required to satisfy the objective threshold showing. State v. Head, 2002 WI 99, 255 Wis. 2d 194, 648 N.W.2d 413, 99-3071.


939.48 - ANNOT.
A person may employ deadly force against another, if the person reasonably believes that force is necessary to protect a 3rd-person or one's self from imminent death or great bodily harm, without incurring civil liability for injury to the other. Clark v. Ziedonis, 513 F. 2d 79 (1975).


939.48 - ANNOT.
Self-defense — prior acts of the victim. 1974 WLR 266.


939.48 - ANNOT.
State v. Camacho: The Judicial Creation of an Objective Element to Wisconsin's Law of Imperfect Self-defense Homicide. Leiser. 1995 WLR 742.
 
Paging all internet lawyers... tonights buffet features crow - please feel free to get all you can eat....
You might want to read the actual reason the charges were dismissed before gloating too much. Go ahead, take a plate for yourself. :)
 
So many possibilities. To me, the fighting words were "and said he was going to replace Peach as the dad of the 5-year-old boy."

Maybe the law looked at the door and found that Peach didn't "break throught" the door at all but that he had a key and let himself in or maybe the door was unlocked? (Ambush?)

Whatever, a five year old doesn't have a dad. Maybe he was a deadbeat dad, or maybe the sun rose and set on the boy in his eyes. Whatever, he is dead now. No undoing that!
 
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