Mossberg patriot

[txcookie]

Kinda thinking about picking one up. I don't own a 308 and I'd like to remedy that. I worry about these budget guns so after reading all the reviews on this rifle I thought I'd bounce it off THR. Thanks gents I know I can search but there might be new info from newer guys. Besides what else we have to talk about.

 

[Captcurt]

I have sold a couple and have tested one. I had a 308 in the cheap synthetic stock. Not a big fan of the plastic stock, but the rifle shot very well. In fact it equaled a 308 Rem 700 Tactical that I had. We're talking 1/2 Sub-MOA. The trigger needed adjusting and the bolt was pretty sloppy.
If I was to buy one for myself I would go with the wood stocked guns. The stock is nicely shaped, adds weight and has a nice finish. Honestly, they are a decent gun for the price.

 

[botofogo]

I can give a big thumbs up for the Patriot with a wooden stock and Vortex scope. I found one at the local sporting goods store for $550. Well worth it.

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

As my signature shows, I own a patriot in 270Win with a walnut stock... It's a dang laser and will shoot practically bullet diameter groups! The bolt is not sloppy on mine like another poster has said, but mine may have been made on a Wednesday at 9am instead of a Friday at 4pm! I am impressed with how good it is for the $500ish I paid for it. I put a much better scope on it and I would recommend doing the same as the included vortex crossfire scope wasn't super nice but it wasn't junk either...it will do fine as a go out and shoot once and a while scope but I recommend the Viper HS series as they are super clear and bright at even max magnification level. I have the basic receiver mounts that came with it and cheapish rings from vortex on it. It holds zero and says tight so I can't complain...
Now with it being a somewhat light gun it does kick a bit if you are wearing a t-shirt in the summer but it's not super duper magnum level obviously lol.
Edit: Forgot to mention the stupidly light trigger on my particular rifle... From the factory mine came set at the lowest setting which is just over 2.5lbs according to my trigger pull gauge. It is super crisp and you better be prepared as it will sneak up on you sometimes wearing gloves...

 

[MachIVshooter]

The synthetic stocks are kinda chintzy, though durable enough, and I'm not a huge fan of the plastic magazines. But the mags do work fine, and the rifles are shooters with decently smooth actions and great triggers. I have a .300 Win Mag that's a demo rifle for our cans, and I liked it enough to buy another one in 7mm-08 and make it our demo Susurrus integrally suppressed rifle

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

The synthetic stocks are kinda chintzy, though durable enough, and I'm not a huge fan of the plastic magazines. But the mags do work fine, and the rifles are shooters with decently smooth actions and great triggers. I have a .300 Win Mag that's a demo rifle for our cans, and I liked it enough to buy another one in 7mm-08 and make it our demo Susurrus integrally suppressed rifle

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is that an Integrally suppressed 300WM?????? That is sick!! Do y'all make one in 270 Winchester?

 

[MachIVshooter]

is that an Integrally suppressed 300WM?????? That is sick!! Do y'all make one in 270 Winchester?

That's the 7mm-08.

We can build Susurrus on pretty much any bolt action, but the more overbore the cartridge, the more they suffer in the velocity department with the 18" ported barrel. .308, 7mm-08, .30-06 do quite well, but stuff with more dramatic bore area to powder charge ratios will lose more velocity. The barrels are ported from 14.5", so the effective barrel length is about 16".

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

That's the 7mm-08.

We can build Susurrus on pretty much any bolt action, but the more overbore the cartridge, the more they suffer in the velocity department with the 18" ported barrel. .308, 7mm-08, .30-06 do quite well, but stuff with more dramatic bore area to powder charge ratios will lose more velocity. The barrels are ported from 14.5", so the effective barrel length is about 16".

I'd like to keep as much velocity as possible so IDK if that is the right solution for me... I would really want at least 22in/24in of effective barrel length. So I guess it would probably be better to just have a normal barrel threaded for a suppressor instead?

 

[MachIVshooter]

I'd like to keep as much velocity as possible so IDK if that is the right solution for me... I would really want at least 22in/24in of effective barrel length. So I guess it would probably be better to just have a normal barrel threaded for a suppressor instead?

We can certainly build them longer, but it would definitely be a long stick with a ported 24-26" barrel plus 9" worth of core.

Would just be a personal preference thing at the end of the day, whether or not you see any benefit to being able to remove a can for transport or unsuppressed use. It'd be much quieter than a muzzle mounted can, but a good 8 or 9 inch muzzle can is quiet enough for most purposes.

Susurrus is removable, but it's not the same kind of "readily removable" as a muzzle mounted can, and of course you would have a heavily ported barrel exposed and the inletted stock would look really goofy with a skinny barrel in a 1-1/2" forend inlet. Basically not a very usable rifle without the can.

 

[mshootnit]

I had one in 25-06 decent shooter, I put a boyds on it, now Boyds has the AICS conversion

 

[txcookie]

View attachment 1068478 I had one in 25-06 decent shooter, I put a boyds on it, now Boyds has the AICS conversion

Oh I like that

 

[txcookie]

Handled one today seemed pretty well built. The stick was cheapish but seemed way more solid than the axis.

 

[crestoncowboy]

I've hunted with one in 300 mag for 3 or 4 seasons. Bought it because it was new for 350 or so with the crossfire 2. Just to have a short handy rifle and save my nice expensive ones in the brush. My uncle also bought one in 243. Niether shoot close to Moa. But good enough for deer out to 300 or so easily.

The build is mediocre at best. Cheap brittle plastic around the mag well. Mine cracked and mossberg sent another for free. Excellent service. 22 inches is pretty short for a 300 mag but it's a very light very handy beat around rifle. In the 3 or 4 seasons ive fell on it. Beat it. Knocked it. Even dented the scope . It's never lost zero.

The biggest knock is a bolt that doesn't latch even on safety. Even though I've hunted for 30 years with many rifles, many that didn't latch ive never had a bolt fall open. My patriot does pretty regularly.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

My brother has one in 30.06. He's very happy with it.

 

[Doug444]

I have one in .300 Mag, synthetic stock. Nikon scope. Shoots pretty good (1.5" or less with very little load development). Worked fine for my Limited Entry Bull Elk in 2020. I, too, noticed the bolt's tendency to fall open when hiking around through brush.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Won one in a raffle.

Feels super cheap. But shoots fantastic.

For a guilt free beater, I love it!!

 

[Roverguy]

The plastic stocks are horrible, even by plastic stock standards.

Otherwise, they seem to be well made for budget rifles. A friend had one in 243 Win (as I recall) and I was happy enough with it that I bought one of the super cheap ones in 375 Ruger. I keep meaning to buy a Boyd’s laminated stock to replaced the plastic-not-so- fantastic. Thanks for reminding me.

The top end models, called Revere I think, were walnut and blued steel and looked quite nice in ads but I think they stopped making those.

 

[mshootnit]

I've hunted with one in 300 mag for 3 or 4 seasons. Bought it because it was new for 350 or so with the crossfire 2. Just to have a short handy rifle and save my nice expensive ones in the brush. My uncle also bought one in 243. Niether shoot close to Moa. But good enough for deer out to 300 or so easily.

The build is mediocre at best. Cheap brittle plastic around the mag well. Mine cracked and mossberg sent another for free. Excellent service. 22 inches is pretty short for a 300 mag but it's a very light very handy beat around rifle. In the 3 or 4 seasons ive fell on it. Beat it. Knocked it. Even dented the scope . It's never lost zero.

The biggest knock is a bolt that doesn't latch even on safety. Even though I've hunted for 30 years with many rifles, many that didn't latch ive never had a bolt fall open. My patriot does pretty regularly.

Won one in a raffle.

Feels super cheap. But shoots fantastic.

For a guilt free beater, I love it!!

The barrelled actions are pretty nice, The bolt is a little sloppy but locks up right. The stocks mag and trigger are just as inexpensive as they can be made. I am not sure about the whole plastic mag insert thing. Seems they could redisign the stock and save some money there.

 

[mshootnit]

The plastic stocks are horrible, even by plastic stock standards.

Otherwise, they seem to be well made for budget rifles. A friend had one in 243 Win (as I recall) and I was happy enough with it that I bought one of the super cheap ones in 375 Ruger. I keep meaning to buy a Boyd’s laminated stock to replaced the plastic-not-so- fantastic. Thanks for reminding me.

The top end models, called Revere I think, were walnut and blued steel and looked quite nice in ads but I think they stopped making those.

You are right I think. The Revere is discontinued. They offered a 24" 270 while the regular black 270 was 22"

 

[CptnAwesome]

Kinda thinking about picking one up. I don't own a 308 and I'd like to remedy that. I worry about these budget guns so after reading all the reviews on this rifle I thought I'd bounce it off THR. Thanks gents I know I can search but there might be new info from newer guys. Besides what else we have to talk about.

I've owned 2 Patriots, both with walnut stocks. A 270 and 30-06. Both good rifles and both good shooters for the price. I think you'd be happy with it as long as you understand your not buying a high end rifle

 

[txcookie]

I've owned 2 Patriots, both with walnut stocks. A 270 and 30-06. Both good rifles and both good shooters for the price. I think you'd be happy with it as long as you understand your not buying a high end rifle

So that's the thing I just realized , every you tube video I have found seems to show poor too horrible groups.

 

[CptnAwesome]

So that's the thing I just realized , every you tube video I have found seems to show poor too horrible groups.

Factory and reloads, I have had no problem getting 1" groups or better with both of mine. My brother has one in 30-06 with synthetic stock and same story with his. Most of the reviews I looked at on YouTube before buying 5yrs ago was good.