Mossberg Shockwave for hunting?

[Indigo22]

Real life use of the Mossberg Shockwave. Granted this guy is using it for hunting large game, but the end performance on real live subjects is educational.

 

[troy fairweather]

i would use slugs

 

[Legionnaire]

Wouldn't be my choice, but that video is very well done.

 

[Ks5shooter]

Looks more like wounding season than hunting season to me. Wrong tool for the task. IMHO

 

[Kabic]

I like some of the shotgun gel test this guy has done in the past.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

I went in very negative but he made it work 3 times. Also, he is an experienced hunter so knew his limits. 12ga better than a bow in my mind so I'm not trashing him.

 

[1KPerDay]

I thought you couldn't build a shockwave yourself if the receiver had ever had a buttstock on it.

 

[Kabic]

I thought you couldn't build a shockwave yourself if the receiver had ever had a buttstock on it.

Canada laws are probably different.

 

[1KPerDay]

Ah.

 

[MCgunner]

If I wanted a "truck gun", that might be the one. But, I'm more worried about two legged predators than game. I could have used one with slugs, IF it were accurate, just yesterday. Driving home down our 2 mile private road, I saw a hog rooting up the neighbor's pasture and all I had on me was a 2" .38 snubby. But, he was 50 yards, might be out of range of a Shockwave. A rifle would have been nice, but the truck is a single seater and can't put it behind the seat and get at it without getting out of the truck. But, I don't leave guns in my truck anyway unless I lock 'em in the glove box when I have to enter a "gun free zone". I don't even wanna lock a hog appropriate handgun in the truck, tell ya the truth. I've had a gun stolen out of a truck before. That still stings.

 

[BigBore44]

That is not the proper tool for the task.

 

[dh1633pm]

Depends on the task at hand. It might be good to hunt things that go bump in the night in close quarters.

 

[Kabic]

That is not the proper tool for the task.

Does not seem any worse than the bow hunters...I've see a lot of deer not recovered when shot with an arrow.

 

[BigBore44]

Does not seem any worse than the bow hunters...I've see a lot of deer not recovered when shot with an arrow.

You just unfairly lumped a whole bunch of people into one category. I’ve seen deer not recovered with bows, crossbows, muzzle loaders, handguns, and centerfire rifles. A poor shot is a poor shot. No matter the weapon. That doesn’t mean anything I said is wrong. The Shockwave was never designed to be, nor should it ever be, marketed as a hunting weapon.

 

[troy fairweather]

I think with a one oz slug and 50 yard and under i see now problem. A 430 grain chunk of load even if its only going 750 fps will kill very good. I have shot deer with 45/70 loads and a 405 going much slower. But i would not want to pull the trigger one one of them with a slug that close to my face.

 

[Kabic]

You just unfairly lumped a whole bunch of people into one category. I’ve seen deer not recovered with bows, crossbows, muzzle loaders, handguns, and centerfire rifles. A poor shot is a poor shot. No matter the weapon. That doesn’t mean anything I said is wrong. The Shockwave was never designed to be, nor should it ever be, marketed as a hunting weapon.

You are correct that all types of weapons result in lost deer. The Shockwave does not seem any less lethal than compound bow was the point I was trying to make. I think his video proved it can be used effectively. If you want to argue there are better choices, I would argue that rifles are better choice than bows.

People should not criticize other people's legal weapon choices unless they are prepared to have theirs judged.

 

[Indigo22]

I posted this because I was interested in getting a Shockwave. Mostly because, well ... the cool factor of a sawed off shoty. But it had no purpose outside the cool. I ran across this video and was intrigued. He found a purpose, with limitations not much different than hunting with a handgun. When I hunted (now a paper puncher) deer I used either a 45cal muzzleloader or a 1911 handgun depending on how thick the woods was where I was hunting. Yes, I handicapped myself. I did not care for bean field hunting, ya i tried it. I wanted to see the deer up close and choose my shot.
If I do get a Shockwave as a bugout weapon knowing that it is capable of taking large game should the need arise is appealing if not comforting. Somewhat akin to the guy hunting feral hogs with a 22 rifle. Taking your time with shot placement is the key.

 

[BigBore44]

People should not criticize other people's legal weapon choices unless they are prepared to have theirs judged.

By all means judge away.....

Matthews Switchback XT. 4” groups at 50 yards. I shoot ~1000 arrows every year before season starts.
M70 30-06. -1” groups at 100yards
Marlin 44 Mag 1.5” groups at 100 yards
Marlin 444. -1” groups at 100 yards
Marlin 45-70. -1” groups at 100 yards
T/C Venture 223. -1/2” groups at 100 yards
Remington 375 H&H. 1.5” groups at 100 yards
RIA 10mm. 3” group at 30 yards
Ruger Redhawk 44 Mag. 3” group at 40 yards

How’s the grouping on that ShockWave at say, 40 yards? They’re not accurate. They were never designed to be. They were designed to be handy and maneuverable while defending your home against intruders. Make any excuse you want. It should not be used as a hunting weapon.

 

[BigBore44]

And I’d like to add something.

I’m not opposed to people hunting with a shotgun. I have deer hunted with my Benelli duck gun and rifled slugs. I also spent the time and money finding the best performing round in that gun. I’m not even opposed to people hunting with buckshot (though I’m not sure where it’s legal. Va and NC I think it’s still legal) I’m opposed to hunting with THAT weapon. Even the guy who’s video that is said it was a toy. And he took it hunting. I don’t hunt with toys.

 

[Dibbs]

Just because a very experienced, knowledgeable person made a video about it, i.e., it is
"technically feasible", doesn't mean the average Joe should do it.

Can you use a large screwdriver as a hammer? Yes.
Can you use a hammer to drive in screws? Yes.
Should you do these things, on a regular basis? No.

 

[CraigC]

I see a disturbing trend of casting aside all accepted standards and practices. Seems these days that anything goes. If it worked once and there's a video on YouTube, then it's perfectly acceptable. I'm sorry but this is unacceptable. Where does it all end?

Sorry but this is a loooong way from bow hunting. Archery equipment has been taking critters much larger than deer for thousands of years. This is nothing more than a shameful stunt and people will go to great lengths to justify and rationalize their stunt.

 

[troy fairweather]

i live in new york, and hunt less then one mile from new jersey line by wantage nj its the most north part of nj. Each year i here the jersey guys hunt with there buck shot many times they will unload the gun on a deer some even reload. just saying.

 

[MCgunner]

While I wouldn't pick up a shockwave for any sort of hunting, I think it'd be a heckuva intimidator as a truck gun for self defense loaded with buckshot. I choose to hunt with an appropriate weapon for the season. During bow season, thankfully, Texas has legalized crossbows. I've only taken one deer with a crossbow, but I've been trying. It is limited to 40 yards, will shoot 50 accurately and with power, but I'd rather keep my shots to 40 or less. Bows also are more dependent upon knowing your range. I have a rangefinder for that. I've zapped landmarks from my stands and know the ranges.

So, during gun season, the shockwave would be legal, but I'll take my rifle, BP rifle, or .30-30 handgun, thanks. I'm not going to buy a shockwave for hunting. I may, however, buy one for a house gun or a truck gun. I even have a laser I could mount on it to make shooting it more accurate. But, the threat of home invasion is pretty low out here and I'm pretty good with my handguns and I do have a M4 if the threat were that bad. I shot a deer last season with that M4 and killed it quite dead. I didn't get THAT for hunting either, got it for political reasons. I was afraid the beast was going to be elected and I'd better get it when it was affordable and available. BUT, it IS a more appropriate weapon than a shockwave for hunting IMHO. I handload Barnes 62 grain TSX to 2800 fps in it and, while on the light side, it has proven to me its effectiveness. Main thing is, it's accurate, good sight, and I can easily shoot it.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

People should not criticize other people's legal weapon choices unless they are prepared to have theirs judged.

Isn't the point of a discussion forum to have a discussion, where sometimes we don't agree? Every time someone asks for an opinion on here, we are judging. When a post like this is presented to us, it is inviting judgment.

He found a purpose, with limitations not much different than hunting with a handgun.

There is a huge difference. Todays handguns, especially when scoped are capable of exceptional accuracy at distances much farther than buckshot out of any shotgun is effective.

I'm not saying you shouldn't get one if you think they're cool. We all like different things. But they are a poor tool for hunting. Just because someone did something and got it on video doesn't make it a good idea.

 

[MidRoad]

Pass on that one. May have worked this time. But if it didn't he wounded it cause a bad shot, he prolly would have felt like a real piece of crap. I would have anyways. Owe it to the critter to do it fast and clean, with least chance of error IMO. Crap happens, but why not minimize that?