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when some starlet jogging thru the park gets attacked
we'll see how anti gun they are!

Mountain Lion Spotted In Beverly Hills

POSTED: 10:18 am PST January 20, 2007
UPDATED: 11:21 am PST January 20, 2007
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BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. -- Police searching for a mountain lion in Beverly Hills came up empty-handed Saturday, authorities said.

A mountain lion sighting was reported in the 1000 block of Tower Road at about 11 p.m. on Friday, police said.

After about an hour, the search was called off.

Mountain lions live in the Santa Monica Mountains north of Beverly Hills, but most have been tagged with GPS trackers, NBC4 reported.

Bobcats also live in the area, but typically are only dangerous to smaller animals, police said.

The only verified mountain lion attack on a human in the county occurred in March 1995 when a 27-year-old man suffered injuries on Mount Lowe in the San Gabriel Mountains, according to the Los Angeles Almanac.
 
One of those interesting events. In a location filled with people that would speak out about not disturbing them in thier natural enviroment, protecting them, letting them live free etc I guess that only applies if it is not in thier own backyards, even though that is part of its natural territory. When one is spotted near thier own homes they send out search parties to locate and capture or kill the animal just for being spotted. But when it is somewhere ELSE then they are quick to tell others to let them coexist peacefuly. Funny.

They are very stealthy and avoid people. If a big cat wants to follow or hunt you, you will likely never know it is there beforehand. These are one of the most graceful and athletic of big cats yet rarely ever do more than stalk a person never noticed or observed. Your fascinating and odd after all, with your standing upright and being totaly loud and intrusive after all.
 
The big cats often come into suburban regions, but are rarely seen because they are mostly nocturnal.
I saw one next to the Harbor Freeway in San Pedro, CA, back in the late 1980's, but a search for it proved futile. It had probably travelled along the storm drains from the ritzy Palos Verdes Peninsula, which also has a rural/forest area within it.
 
Mountain Lion

I have been Salmon fishing on Vancouver Island several times and they brag about being the Capital of Mountain Lion attacks.

Here is the link

"Twenty of the 53 attacks (38%) occurred on Vancouver Island (British Columbia), a 30,000-km2 island with 300,000 human residents. There were 10 attacks in mainland British Columbia, 5 in Texas, 4 in California, 3 each in Alberta and Colorado, 2 each in Arizona, Montana, and Washington, and 1 each in New Mexico and Nevada.
 
The one I would worry about more than a mountain lion is the wolves that are being reintroduced. Already the areas they said would take 50 years for the wolves to get to are gettimg them now. Already they have come over 300 miles to the Columbia River area. Once they get out of control watch out. They are much nore dangerous than a mountain lion because if you see one, there 10-20 more of them. They are much less fearful of people and more inclined to attack because of their pack mentaliy. In rural areas there are problems with domesticated dogs attacking livestock in packs, think of what it would be like with wolf packs. Wolves are dangerous creatures and all the old stories about mankinds fear of wolves has a basis. Why do you think there are werewolves and no weremountainlions?
 
those 13 attacks were the reported ones. Some attacks go unreported. Many of the people who went missing (esp. children) in the mountains probably fall victim to yotes or mtn. lions. THe enviornmentalists around my part of PRK are complaining that there are too many mtn. lions, that they are killing the endangered bighorn sheep. Imagine that, a carnivore eating an herbivore natice to it's habitat:neener: It just hasn't allowed a small/limited mtn. lion season yet. That's one season I'd be more than happy to participate in since I've been stalked by these majestic hunters:barf: while mtn. biking.
 
those 13 attacks

like KF hippie said are the recorded ones.
If you're dead and gone you cant report it.

Also the 13 are in CA only, if you include all of North America that number jumps a bit.

Also the mountain lion population is exploding.
 
Babs

Rico said:

>Got a mental picture of Babs runnin' from a cougar<
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But of course, she'll get chased because she'll organize a "Meet the Lions" march and lead about 50 warm, fuzzy people of like mind into the mountains so they can interact with the cats and make them understand that we're really, really their friends, and mean them no harm. :rolleyes:

Wonder if there are any wolves up there in those hills...

Wonder if Rosie will go with'em...
 
Wonder if Rosie will go with'em
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Is it just me or does Rosie resemble Ralph Kramden in drag:p


As far as the topic here, in 1994 when a woman jogger was killed in Auburn, California by a mother mountain lion, the fund for the orphaned lion cubs received more donated money than the fund set up for this woman's children. What does that say for the twisted values of people today? Just more evidence that California is more and more resembling a breakfast cereal......nothing but fruits, nuts, and flakes!:p

In the past 117 years there have only been 13 attacks in the entire state
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If you check out the link, you'll notice that 12 of those 15 (not 13) have been in the last 20-21 yrs . 10 of those being in the last 14-15yrs and 3 of those being in the last 2 1/2 to 3 years. Also note that the last update to that table was 5/2006...so stay tuned!.................Another interesting thing here is that 9 of the 15 attacks were on adults and all but 1 of the attacks on adults happened in the last 12-13yrs ...........................can you spell G-R-O-W-I-N-G__________T-R-E-N-D?:uhoh:
 
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I'm glad that I'm not the only one seeing a growing trend. I blame it on California's growing population that is encroaching on their habitat along with no population control except starvation and disease (both of which mean a huge dip in local prey/endangered animals.)

So when/if they open a mtn. lion season...anybody got some good recipes?:evil:
And lets start it now...What's the best caliber for mountain lion?
And finally, anyone got a good patern for a cougar-skin cap?:neener:
 
actually .22 for Cougar (afaik)

from what I hear the dogs tree it and you pop it with a .22
in 20 minutes or so it falls out of the tree dead.
Then you take it to the taxidermist.

Now if you are attacked by one....use the biggest gun you got!
 
Wow, the police could not find the imaginary puma. A news story about a non-event, I am shocked.:rolleyes:

Good grief, some near-sighted drunk, three sheets to the wind late at night, sees a "mountain lion" (his neighbor's cat) and suddenly there are mountain lions running around like squirrels on a college campus.:rolleyes:
 
suddenly there are mountain lions running around like squirrels on a college campus.
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my college campus has a bunny infestation, and an owl infestation due to the bunny population. They're so tame I wish they allowed bunny hunting over break:evil:
 
my college campus has a bunny infestation, and an owl infestation due to the bunny population
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Sooner or later, one will even the other out. Unless the bunnies develop SAMs, it doesn't look good for them.


UW had a ton of crows back in the mid 1990s. One day a hawk drifted over to campus; that was colorful for a bit. I still don't understand why we can't get some Hill Country hawks to come take care of the nasty grackles that infest Austin.

-MV
 
Sooner or later, one will even the other out.
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I think they're evened out. There are so many bunnies due to water and vegitation (and the school is next to forest lawn cemetery (like walmart of cemeteries) so the bunnies can eat, drink, and mate faster than the owls can eat. I personally like the infestation, it keeps the pigeon population down. And I like looking at bunnies up close, it's a way of studying their mannerisms and helps me be a better hunter. I can spot them better than ever thanks to college. Now if we had a mountain lion problem that would be bad since rape wistles don't work on big cats.:neener:
 
If I were a panther, you wouldn't see me either. It's quite possible for people to live around cougars and never see them. I've seen their tracks far more often than I've seen them. That's one of the reasons why the range of the animal is so much in doubt. Also, because they're solitary by nature, they seem to be able to survive as alien big cats when released from captivity by rich eccentric people who thought they would make good housepets.

Once I was following the tracks of a cougar, in a national park. The tracks were on snow, and ended abruptly at a cliff of slate about 50 feet high. The cliff looked impossible to scale to me, but apparently the lion didn't think so.
 
Once I was following the tracks of a cougar, in a national park. The tracks were on snow, and ended abruptly at a cliff of slate about 50 feet high. The cliff looked impossible to scale to me, but apparently the lion didn't think so.
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Mountain lions can jump a vertical distance of up to 15 feet and a horizontal distance of 40 feet. They can run up to 50 miles per hour. So if the cliff had 3 purchases within 15 feet of eachother it could easily scale the cliff. They are an extremely agile stealthy cat, not tons of brawn like some of the other large well known cats. "...cougars' elusiveness is compounded by their stealth hunting patterns. They sneak up on their prey, mostly deer, from behind, pounce and strike at the back of the neck, killing their victim before the animal knows what hit it."
If you see one it is likely because it is hunting something else and has tunnel vision. They have great sense of smell, hearing, eyesight, and make almost no sound while moving at moderate speed.
After all they sneak up on deer and get within 10-20 feet (they may jump 40 but that is while moving) and kill it without the deer noticing. How close can you get to a deer without it noticing?
The lions you see on discovery rely on teamwork and speed to chase something down, the cougar however is stealthy until the last moment.
It's stealth is the only reason it is not extinct like most of the other large predators we once had. Grizzlies existed all the way down and into Mexico even including the deserts in places like CA, and along the entire rocky mountain range and sierra mountain and other mountain ranges, and throughout more than half of the USA. Now they exist in just a tiny patch of the US outside of Alaska. Wolves once were spread across the country as well. Same fate. The cougar however has managed to hang on longer. However without enough inter connected wilderness to hunt and mate in most places (they have like a 150 mile range) they will fade away as well. They once existed in every state, now they live in just some in the west, and part of Florida.
However as part of our inevitable growth into just cities and the farms that support them, with suburbs stretching further and further out before becoming part of the cities, all such wildlife will cease to exist anyways. The world will eventualy just be people, and thier enviroment, with a few places of reserved trees that people can travel to and think they are in the wilderness.
 
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El Tejon said:
Wow, the police could not find the imaginary puma. A news story about a non-event, I am shocked.
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My mom took her golden retriever for a walk in the hills the other day. He found a dear carcass and started running down the hill with the backbone trailing from his mouth. A nearby hiker thought that he was a mountain lion at first.

It seems more likely to me that this was a false sighting than a mountain lion, though I'm not saying it is that far fetched for it to have been a real lion, because they sometimes hunt close (within a mile) to the suburban areas in California.

By the way, back in "the day", mountain lions were considered vermin in this state. Then Fish & Game put a ban on all hunting, then when the population had recovered enough and tags were going to be issued, the environmentalists sued for years. Finally, when it became clear that the tags were going to be issued anyway in 1990, they put the ban on the ballot as a proposition and it won.

Still, not nearly as bad as wolves--I hope Idaho soon gets to "smoke a pack a day".
 
By the way, back in "the day", mountain lions were considered vermin in this state. Then Fish & Game put a ban on all hunting, then when the population had recovered enough and tags were going to be issued, the environmentalists sued for years. Finally, when it became clear that the tags were going to be issued anyway in 1990, they put the ban on the ballot as a proposition and it won.

Still, not nearly as bad as wolves--I hope Idaho soon gets to "smoke a pack a day".
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Symbolic of the attitudes of most. Where the perfect world would be endless neighborhoods with green lawns and paved roads. People fear what they do not understand. Most people grow up in cities, and so wildlife is very scary. People want things that scare them to cease to exist.
The people that hate the wolves do not like them because they cut into profit by killing thier farm animals that resemble retarded, slow, unhealthy, easy wildlife. It cuts into thier living and that is logical. However your comment comes from fear, and fear often creates illogical responses. I am all for people being armed and capable of dealing with the predators if they endanger them (of course since people would abuse that you almost have to make them prove self defense or just not allow them to be armed, which sadly is what our national and state parks in CA do.) So yes we will eventualy just be cities with inner city gangs more likely to kill you than the wildlife with teeth you fear so much. However by then the right to keep and bear arms will have been heavily infringed, so defense against predators(the human variety) will be difficult.
Just because you are more comfortable with one world, does not mean the one you do not understand or know is more dangerous and must be exterminated. Many people here would like to see places like the Bay Area you live in which is the source of some of the most anti firearm sentiment in the country vanish.
 
What's so special about a mountain lion wandering into town?

Not that big of a deal in Arizona. It's rare, but people don't suddenly exhibit mass hysteria when one does wander into one of the urban areas. Just shrug it off until animal control picks it up, or a drunken redneck/Mexican decides to shoot it. =\

I'll never understand California. The people there are like, out of place. Bourgeois folks living in a desert with a bunch of houses built over it. The minute they face nature, it's as if it's a culture shock, and they realize they actually are in the middle of a barren dust-bowl under the guise of a city.

Weird state, CA.
 
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