Movies Where Guns Weren't Used Effectively

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There are a couple of Rob Zombie films that would have ended sooner had the good guys used their weapons properly.

"House of 1000 Corpses" and "The Devil's Rejects" both demonstrate the need to be armed, stay on the road, keep gas in your tank, etc.
 
Hard Rain. Definitely Jurassic Park as well.

Also, apparently the galactic Empire in the Star Wars series thought that having cloned super-soldiers as Stormtroopers meant they didn't have to do any small arms training with their troops, because the Stormtroopers couldn't hit squat.
 
RAMBO 4 = Good use of guns for no good reason. .50 cal vs. Burmese army! :)
 
I hope nobody is so naive to believe that all these movies are either coincidence or ignorance, though I'm sure ignorance plays a small part.

Hollywood writers and producers have a directive, and they have sworn to show guns in the hands of citizens as ineffective at best. It is a deliberate campaign of indoctrination intended to make real people shun guns as defensive weapons.

Any of the following scenes are straight out of their playbook, excerpts of which have been posted on THR before:

- good guy shoots friend accidentally
- good guy gets gun taken away
- good guy misses completely
- good guy uses gun but only makes situation worse
- good guy has gun but is stupid/drunk/turns out to be bad guy

Very few movies will ever include any of the following scenes, because they are forbidden by the hollywood playbook:

- good guy pulls gun and bad guy runs away or surrenders
- good guy shoots bad guy and wins
- good guy knows how to use gun and is competent and safe

There are exceptions, such as in "history of violence" when a good guy takes a gun away from a bad guy and kills two serial robbers/murderers... but then turns out to be a mafia hitman on the run (which is foreshadowed by his uncanny sniper-like ability to shoot an immobile man two feet away, which could only be the result of criminal experience because nobody can get that good just by, say, training).
 
I just saw a completely horrible move not that long ago. I mean this move is pure junk. That being said i will watch a sequel if they make it.
Alien vs Predator 2 was the movie.
they had lots of guns but couldn't bring them selfs to killing more than a couple of those pesky creatures from outer space.
The only gun that seemed to work was the Predator's laser flint lock.
 
Predator the guys DID use their guns effectively. It's just hard to hit something invisible and agile as Tarzan.

Also, Pierce Brosnan's Bond was never shy about shooting and hitting what he was aiming at. He even managed to slow down a swarm of charging Russian soldiers effectively with a full mag.
 
One word: CONGO

Damn shame about all of those wonderful FALs and Uzis failing the people in the novel and movie. But, they could have fared far better in the movie had they not sprayed and prayed, but also had a strategy with dealing with a threat they knew existed...
"Hey, lets go into the killer apes' lair, thats a great idea! This FN will save me!":D
 
28 Days Later.....The citizens didn't use guns to protect themselves from all the zombies running around......

....Oh wait a minute they were where in Britain and had no guns to defend themselves with to begin with:uhoh:

A great movie but a prime example of why an armed public stands a better chance of survival.... from Zombies!!

Other movies.....
The Wicker Man: In the original version I don't think the cop even had a gun to begin with, maybe he should have had one and they wouldn't have taken him so easily.

The new Indian Jones movie: Does he ever even use his gun at any point in the movie?

National Treasure (1 or 2): If Nick Cage had been armed from the get go maybe he wouldn't have to run all the time. Of course the bad guys didn't use their guns very effectively in those movies either.
 
The idea of parodying horror movies is, I suspect, funnier in concept than it would be in execution. See, for it to be funny you'd have to basically set things up by writing and producing an effective horror movie, then subvert that at the last moment with your gun scene. Without a good set-up, your pay-off isn't going to be funny...it's going to be sucktastically lame. At best, people will roll their eyes at how they think you ripped-off the famous scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
A whole series of such films? Please. Doing it once (if you did it right) would be funny. Doing it repeatedly would stop being funny with the second such film.
Doing this at all with your typical youtube level of scriptwriting and production values would be the absolute antithesis of funny.
Better, I think, to just continue imagining how funny it would be every time you see a new horror movie.
 
One of the worst endings to a movie ever was in "Shoot em Up":

Clive Owen sticks his hand in a fire with the bullets held between the fingers. The bullets heat up but instead of just popping the primers out, they fire and kill the bad guy.

While I can tolerate a certain amount of "infinite ammo" or "bullets that never seem to penetrate car doors", I was laughing in agony at this craptastic defiance of basic concept of how bullets work.

I've seen lots of bad movies just for the fight scenes but this one really did make me want those 45 minutes of my life back (watched it with liberal use of the FF-button).

-g
 
ok, just saw stand by me last night, toward the end, kid fires a warning shot from a g.i. 45 at the punk, then cocks the hammer for a possible second shot....
 
Old TV shows like Mannix, where he gets clubbed over the head by a bg's pistol in nearly every episode....how he never became brain damaged, I'll never know.
Also Hawaii 5-0 , where McGarrett takes 50-75m hip shots w/ a snubby .38 and drills the bg every time right where he needed.
Cannon, where Bill Conrad stopped a '73 Lincoln Continental w/ a single shot to the engine compartment w/ a J-frame .38, HAHAHA!!
I love those old shows!
 
shot can you name ONE where they are used properly???
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they seemed pretty well used in the longest day

There are a couple of Rob Zombie films that would have ended sooner had the good guys used their weapons properly.

"House of 1000 Corpses" and "The Devil's Rejects" both demonstrate the need to be armed, stay on the road, keep gas in your tank, etc.
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actually the gun play was pretty spot on in both of those films... problem is, the bad guys had the guns most of the time...
 
nwilliams said:
The Wicker Man: In the original version I don't think the cop even had a gun to begin with, maybe he should have had one and they wouldn't have taken him so easily.
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One of my favorite movies of all time. Sgt Howie was indeed unarmed. However, Lord Summerisle had at least fourteen rifles, as you can see from this screen-capture that I have helpfully provided:

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Is that an Enfield SMLE on the top, and an M1903 beneath it?
 
shot can you name ONE where they are used properly??? ive seen maybe one or two come CLOSE..
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Alot of the Eastwood movies were pretty realistic. I can't remember, maybe Pale Rider, where I was watching one of the gun fights and actually counted the rounds fired by him. If he pulled a 5 shot pistol, it only fired 5 before he dropped it and grabbed a different one from a different area of his body. 6shot revolver, the same.
Guys didn't go flying across the street when hit, they just kinda crumpled in the gut where the bullet hit and fell to thier knees. Not necessarily dead, but dying and in pain.

That being said, I do still enjoy a good Roy Rogers or Gene Autry and loved those magic cowboy six shooters that never needed reloading and I was always so impressed how they kept their white hats so white on the open range and after a shootout with those black powder revolvers.

I'm only 37 but man, those were the days of good Saturday afternoon UHF TV............
 
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I just saw a completely horrible move not that long ago. I mean this move is pure junk. That being said i will watch a sequel if they make it.
Alien vs Predator 2 was the movie.
they had lots of guns but couldn't bring them selfs to killing more than a couple of those pesky creatures from outer space.
The only gun that seemed to work was the Predator's laser flint lock.
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I just saw that too. I noted that if you were among the Ragtag Band of Survivors(TM), the size of one's gun directly corresponded with how long you lived - if you had a pistol, you bought it ASAP; if you had a rifle, you might make it to the end.
 
Predator the guys DID use their guns effectively. It's just hard to hit something invisible and agile as Tarzan.
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Missing your target is NOT effective. All those rounds expended and they only knicked him once.

I always find it amusing in these movies that multiple guns, thousands of rounds of ammo, knives the size of the Empire State Building and they're always defeated with hand to hand combat.
 
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