Muddy Mini-14

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The problem is that if you opt to buy a new shiny Mini 14 and then do the mud test it won't be in any way new and shiny any longer.

When you mix dirt or mud with oil or grease you get something we can buy from automotive suppliers and other outlets. It's called "grinding paste". So by the time the tests are run the rifle will be more worn out than if it saw 10 or more years of normal use.

I'm sorry but I fail to see the point of your sifted dirt video or any value to coating your Mini in mud plan. At best it's a basic abuse of metal more than torture testing.

Besides fans and foes of the mini will continue to sit solidly on their side of the line and come up with reasons for/against whatever you do.
 
The problem is that if you opt to buy a new shiny Mini 14 and then do the mud test it won't be in any way new and shiny any longer.
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I'm firing 25 rounds thru a dirty rifle. You really think any rifle is going to be ruined by that treatment?

I used to live in New Mexico. It was frequently windy and dust, grit got into everything. I don't recall my guns being worn out from that treatment.

Is it a different level of abrasive loading? Sure. But it's also ~10 minutes and 30 rounds, not years and hundreds of rounds.

BSW
 
This Brian guy is on every gun forum doing this. I don't get it? I don't care what kind of BS "test" you do, I'm not gonna believe that a Ruger Mini 14 is unreliable.

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Just trying to get some ideas for the next time. I don't belong to every gun forum, just about a 1/2 dozen or so.

BSW
 
I can't figure out how in real life a rifle would get muddy. Aw, I guess I could fall in mud if I had a stroke or heart attack, but the question still remains as to what was I doing there in the first place? Attack of the terminal stupids?
 
What if you were hunting for mud daubers on their home ground?
 
I can't figure out how in real life a rifle would get muddy. Aw, I guess I could fall in mud if I had a stroke or heart attack, but the question still remains as to what was I doing there in the first place? Attack of the terminal stupids?
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Not all rifle shooting happens on sunny days at the range.

BSW
 
Quite the contrary. I'm a big mini fan and I'm looking forward to the results. If the OP were local to me I'd let him use my rifle to test.
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As a Mini fan, what would make you consider a Mini mud test fair?

BSW
 
I don't know. It's completely arbitrary, possibly unrealistic and I doubt any mud test would be "fair"... all you can do is treat it the same as the other rifles you're testing alongside it and see how it does. With the rinse off test as noted in my posts earlier in this thread.
 
Number one thing is start with a gun that works properly in the first place, and feed it high quality ammo. Probably ough to be 556 ammo too for a reliability test, since the gun is rated for for both but couldnt have been optimized for both. If the Mini (or M1A or Garand) won't operate reliably for 30 rounds dry and clean, I would say something is wrong with it from the get-go.
 
I wouldn't do that to any rifle I own. Including my Mini, my AR's or my AK.

I appreciate there are those willing to 'torture test' firearms in various ways, and most of those folks work for firearms companies so us poor consuming slobs don't have to do what you are doing.

I don't just shoot when its sunny and calm and I was never in any armed service but 'keep your rifle clean' was pounded into my skull pretty relentlessly.

Speaking of which.. what IS all that slag hanging off of/out of your flash suppressor?

If that's coming out of your barrel you are degrading your accuracy beyond the need to make videos, and quite frankly risking a burst barrel, catastrophic injury or death.
 
a bit of idle speculation...

I guess all those Garands that went through WWII...and then Korea...and a fair number of them into Vietnam...to be joined by a bunch of M14s...were never exposed to mud?

Nah, no mud in Vietnam...that's for sure... :)

Not saying that a Mini is a Garand or an M14, but the basic design is very similar...which leads me to the (possibly mistaken) conclusion that if the basic design were seriously flawed, we'd have known about it, ahhhh...65 or 70 years ago.

Of course, I don't know all that much...I spent my military career looking down at (not on) those guys crawling through the mud. And my hat's off to every one of you.

And if I'm way off base, I'll be the first to admit it.
 
Going out on a limb here ;)but guessing the Mud test will be identical to the Dirt/dust test.:uhoh:
 
People who are likely to encounter a bunch of mud in places like Vietnam aren't going to be toting Minis.

The highest probability, seems to me, for getting a rifle muddy is to get mud down the muzzle. At that point, the last thing you want to do is pull trigger. Horse du combat or some such thing. :D
 
Speaking of which.. what IS all that slag hanging off of/out of your flash suppressor?
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The slag is the remains of the tape that I covered the muzzle with to keep the dust out of the bore.

Most of it blew off with the first shot but some stayed stuck.

None of the rifles I shot had any apparent damage, including to the bore.

BSW
 
Thanks for that bit of info (slag) I was seriously concerned you were getting some kind of serious debris building up in the suppressor.

Even WITH the sifter/strainer you run the risk of running grit/sand/other abrasives down the bore.
 
I don't understand all this. 40 years of hunting, most of it in Alaska swamps and I have never dropped a gun in the mud. If I did I would clean it, not fire off 2-3 clips. What is this, SOF magazine? What are you guys planning for?
 
I think it's interesting to know how far you can push a tool and expect it to still work.

Besides, it beats sitting in a chair and posting on the interwebs.

BSW
 
I think it's interesting to know how far you can push a tool and expect it to still work.

Besides, it beats sitting in a chair and posting on the interwebs.

BSW
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Says the guy with 2x my posts:D
As far as the tool thing, I would never throw my impact gun in the mud and then see how many lug nut's it will remove till it breaks. Why am I doing this?
Just like I don't drain the oil out of my truck just to see how long I can go till the engine seizes.
 
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