Muzzleloading Overkill.

[Patocazador]

I've heard there is no such thing as overkill but I believe there is.

Saturday I was invited by a friend to kill a doe since his place had tags. I shoot a Hawken replica with 90 gr. of 3F black powder or equivalent with a saboted PT Gold 260.
A doe approached and got within 10 yards so I shot for the neck to avoid ruining meat.

Below are the results:

Entrance:


Exit:


I call that overkill.

 

[J-Bar]

Better than having to track her.

 

[.38 Special]

But did it work?

 

[Fyrstyk]

How can you complain about a DRT shot that hardly ruins any meat?

 

[Patocazador]

How can you complain about a DRT shot that hardly ruins any meat?

I don't like all that blood. It looks like I was hunting with a hand grenade.

I usually shoot them in the neck if they are closer than 35 yards but never had that much blood before with a traditional muzzleloader.

 

[edwardware]

I don't like all that blood. It looks like I was hunting with a hand grenade.

You've never used a hand grenade. . .

Good kill. No such thing as overdead.

 

[Shooterbob]

? You don’t like all that blood? That’s how they die quickly.looks like it couldn’t have went any better at 10 yards I think you should be very happy with the outcome .If you are looking for less blood maybe try round balls

 

[Patocazador]

If you are looking for less blood maybe try round balls

That's what I was thinking too, plus they're much cheaper.

 

[Lnf Crzr]

I don't like all that blood. It looks like I was hunting with a hand grenade.

I usually shoot them in the neck if they are closer than 35 yards but never had that much blood before with a traditional muzzleloader.

You don’t like all that Blood? Did Your wife or Mom field dress that deer for you?
Just a “nudge in the ribs” - I understand what your saying, yet you aimed at what your target area was- hit area and DRT- much better than a suffering animal. Bring a bottle of water next time

 

[LoonWulf]

But did it work?

Nope ran away Right after he took those pictures......

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[H&Hhunter]

I've heard there is no such thing as overkill but I believe there is.

Saturday I was invited by a friend to kill a doe since his place had tags. I shoot a Hawken replica with 90 gr. of 3F black powder or equivalent with a saboted PT Gold 260.
A doe approached and got within 10 yards so I shot for the neck to avoid ruining meat.

Below are the results:

Entrance:
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Exit:
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I call that overkill.

You cut the carotid artery on the exit. The heart was still beating and pumped all the blood out the hole. I’d not consider that over kill at all. There is minimal muscle damage, very little deformation.

 

[Patocazador]

You cut the carotid artery on the exit. The heart was still beating and pumped all the blood out the hole.

That makes perfect sense. After killing almost 200 deer in my life, I had never had that happen before with the carotid.

 

[buck460XVR]

I call that overkill.

I call it a quick and humane kill. What most of us attempt to achieve while deer hunting. Without hitting the Mainframe computer of the CNS, blood loss is the quickest way to kill a game animal. This is what you did. While your picture is graphic, it was not so to the deer. Coupla weeks ago my granddaughter took a large doe with my .44 Ruger carbine@ 25 yards. Doe acted like nuttin happened after the shot as she ran back up the hill. 60 yards later she flipped over backwards and rolled back down the hill almost to the spot she was hit. Took out both lungs and the blood covered the whole chest along with the deer's muzzle and face from blowing blood. The trail she rolled back down on was covered with a blood trail 4 foot wide. Graphic? Yes, but not overkill.

Congrats on a good shot.

 

[H&Hhunter]

That makes perfect sense. After killing almost 200 deer in my life, I had never had that happen before with the carotid.

Kind of the same deal here on an archery kill I made last year. When you slice through big arteries with out first shutting off the pump they are going to bleed a lot.

 

[Thomasss]

You're shot, your call. You could load 50 grains at 10 yards and been a little less messy or you could have let her go a little farther away before shooting. BP loses energy very quickly with a round ball, but not with a sabot. You had enough power there to drop a deer at 150 yards or more. So I sincerely hope you learned something today.

 

[Seedy Character]

I agree, not overkill
Perfect shot placement, DRT.
Can't ask for anything more.


Some could argue .50 260 gr bullet is overkill.
Using a .308 Norma Mag on whitetails is overkill. Or a .45-70.

Dead is dead. Clean shot, with a clean, quick kill is what every hunter should strive for.

 

[WisBorn]

No such thing as overkill (overdead).

You could reduce the load from 90 grains to 75 gains of FFFg.

I have had good success with it and a patched .495 ball.

 

[troy fairweather]

Over kill is when it's drt then falls off a cliff lol.

 

[earlthegoat2]

You could have used a 75 cal muzzleloader.

I have a buddy who has an 8 bore Fowler. I want to work up a load of 2oz of #1 buckshot and see how that works on game.

 

[troy fairweather]

You could have used a 75 cal muzzleloader.

I have a buddy who has an 8 bore Fowler. I want to work up a load of 2oz of #1 buckshot and see how that works on game.

I've seen guys with 20/62 cal mz shotguns shoot 2 oz of #5-6 shot for Turkey.

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

I have a buddy who has an 8 bore Fowler. I want to work up a load of 2oz of #1 buckshot and see how that works on game.

Ouch...

 

[caribou]

Hit bones and see what happens for exit wounds.

You may not like the "looks" of blood all over, but the quality of eating that meat will be a lot better bled out.

Happy munching, and, oh ya, nice doe!

 

[LoonWulf]

Over kill is when it's drt then falls off a cliff lol.

We used to shoot goats off cliffs....the bah, bah, bah sound they made as they bounced to the bottom of the ravines was morbidly funny.
Sucked when they got hung up on a tree or on a rock tho.

 

[troy fairweather]

We used to shoot goats off cliffs....the bah, bah, bah sound they made as they bounced to the bottom of the ravines was morbidly funny.
Sucked when they got hung up on a tree or on a rock tho.

Need a harpoon gun lol. Do they eat better after the fall.

 

[WisBorn]

Need a harpoon gun lol. Do they eat better after the fall.

Tenderized goat lol.