NAA Mini vs knife

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You can have both, you know.

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Biggest problem with the NAA (and I own two from way back when, a .22LR and a .22Mag) is that they are a pain to deploy with just one hand in a contact range fight. There just isn't much there to hang onto, and the little guns are so hard to index accurately I'd hate to have to use one from a retention position.

I know that no one who carries a gun regularly likes to think about the reality of many street assaults, which happen at contact range. Lots of people go to the range, stand at the "average" 21 feet, in one spot, and shoot at a stationary target. Which is not how a good many real fights happen. Unfortunately, sometimes your situational awareness fails, and you pass the victim selection test (http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/five_stages.html)

I'd prefer either a larger and easier to index handgun or, forbidden that, a knife. And has been indicated, if possible, carry both. But TRAIN to use them effectively at contact distance - several folks out there offer this training. My experience has been with Southnarc (http://shivworks.com/) and I can fully recommend his approach to solving this particular problem set.
 
Dev Null, in the hands of a trained man, and within arm's reach (or a touch over), a keen knife is the equal of any pistol. Distance is the critical factor. Beyond knife range, a handgun become the only remaining option.

Lee Lapin seems to have the right of it.

YMMD. Everyone must seek his own salvation.
 
I carry both a NAA 1 5/8" barrel .22WMR loaded with Gold Dots and a knife daily. They both fit in every pair of shorts/pants I wear daily and are easy to just toss on the pocket and walk out the door.

They both have their advantages.

I'll take both, and I do. :)

-Jake
 
When I go to pawn shops and see a NAA revolver or some RG .22 wheelgun I always remark, "That's a good gun for your opponent to have".

Sure hope when you guys pack that NAA or knife you don't meet some people who decided to bring a serious gun to the fight and not wait for you to draw that little gun or stick them.

For as Napoleon said, "never do your opponent a small injury".

Deaf
 
...and then someone will come out with a "tactical" cheesegrater fore-end to hang a vertical grip off of it.
 
Penetration from a knife is greater than just the blade length since soft tissue compresses under the stab from a knife. Also, you only need to penetrate to vital organs and "over penetration" doesn't exist as a concept with stabbing.
"Wound channel" for a stab is much larger than the .22 lr wound channels out of a short barrel. If you look at hacking and slashing you can get very long "wound channels".
Severing tendons and ligaments is nearly impossible with a .22lr, but even a small knife can carve the connective tissue and render an arm or leg inoperable.
 
More than 45 years ago I used a knife several times to kill men. Not a boast just a fact of life. I killed these men while serving my country and it was perfectly legal. From these events and others using firearms I know that under 5 yards all the advantage goes to the knife. Get your arm around their neck and drive your 8" knife under or thru the ribs and they die silently and relatively fast. Once the blade goes in they never have any thought of fighting back. I am perfectly comfortable carrying my 8" knife for self defense as I know how to use it some others may not be as lucky as me.Contrary to popular films the throat slashing move isn't very good for me as I like to have a hold on them and the neck/head gives me a good hold to finish the work. FRJ
 
chicharrones said:
If I was 70 years old, I'd probably feel more comfortable with the NAA over the knife.
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You know, my father's 70 years old, and there is no way I'd want to take him on with an NAA OR a knife. Good way to end up with an NAA or a knife in an uncomfortable location. :eek:

On topic: I don't think I'd be able to manipulate anything as small as an NAA mini in a fight. I'd rather stick to something I can wrap my mitt around and squeeeeeze until empty.
 
BLB: Yes, of course, but the question wasn't NAA vs a larger pistol in the .380 to .50 caliber range. It was more a rumination on "if I had to choose between one of these which would it be?"

And even though the question may have been kind of silly, there have been--as I expected--some really good answers here. (Exactly what I expected from THR.)
 
I see alot of replies about the NAA being too small to manipulate. I had never really thought about it since I am 5' 5", with fairly small hands. I can get ahold of it no problem. But my dad, and father in law are both large guys with Huge hands. I can see as that it would be very dificult for either of them. We all give advise from our own point of view without knowing the other side.
 
I never could get the hang of using my NAA mini either quickly, let alone one-handed. I've sold my NAA, but I'm still buying cool knives. I've carried a knife-with the *side* effect of defense, not main effect-since I was 8 years old (some good length of time ago), and trained a fair bit with one, though I don't consider myself an expert.

I'm going to go with a good knife, myself.

Both of these items are just tools, however: neither is capable of acting in defense of self until the practitioner lays hands upon one or the other and vivifies it. It is all about the mechanic here, IMHO, and not about the tool. I'm just more of an edged weapon mechanic, than a mini revolver mechanic, myself.

As mentioned previously, step up to a j-frame or an LCP, and the question gets thornier.
 
dev_null said:
BLB: Yes, of course, but the question wasn't NAA vs a larger pistol in the .380 to .50 caliber range. It was more a rumination on "if I had to choose between one of these which would it be?"

And even though the question may have been kind of silly, there have been--as I expected--some really good answers here. (Exactly what I expected from THR.)
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Well, as far as knife vs mini, I'd have to go with knife. When I get in a fight, my adrenaline levels shoot up, and utterly destroy my fine motor skills. On the other hand, I'd really rather not use either. Knife fighting is a pretty brutal and bloody business.
 
I have a mini revolver. you are incorrect on most counts. Why someone would open carry a mini is beyond me......chris3
 
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