NAACP Will Sue Over New Georgia Photo ID Law

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NAACP Will Sue Over New Georgia Photo ID Law
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200508\NAT20050829a.html

(CNSNews.com) - The NAACP accuses the U.S. Justice Department of weakening one of the nation's most important voting laws.

On Friday, the Justice Department approved a Georgia law requiring voters to present a government-issued photo ID before casting a ballot.

Supporters say the new law will prevent fraud at the polls. But opponents say it will keep thousands of voters away -- especially poor and elderly people who don't have drivers' licenses and can't afford to pay for a state-issued ID card.

They say the new Georgia law essentially requires many black people to pay a fee before voting.

Bruce S. Gordon, president and CEO of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, called the Justice Department's approval of the Georgia photo-ID law "disappointing."

"If left unchallenged, many African-Americans and other minorities in Georgia will find it difficult to cast their ballots. I will call on a coalition of civil rights groups to join us in challenging the Georgia law," Gordon said in a statement issued Saturday.

Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP national board of directors, also promised that court challenges are coming -- the lawsuit, to be filed under the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Under the new Georgia law, the list of acceptable photo IDs for voters is limited to the following: a Georgia driver's license, U.S. passport, U.S. or state agency employee ID, military ID, tribal ID or an ID card issued by a legally empowered branch of Georgia, any other state or the U.S. government.

The NAACP complains that in all of Georgia's 159 counties, there are only 56 places to obtain the required photo ID. There is no motor vehicle department office in the city of Atlanta, the group says.

Portions of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which was intended to boost minority participation in the political process, are due to expire in 2007.

The NAACP and various civil rights groups are lobbying Congress to reauthorize the law, one section of which requires the Justice Department to block state laws that would deny or abridge the right to vote on account of race or color.
 
Wouldn't it be cheaper to take the money that is to be used to fight the law with a lawsuit and pay for the IDs?
Probably not for the NAACP but probably so for the state, because If the state loses they will have to pay for the NAACP charges, and if the NAACP loses they are being served pro bono.
 
I figure Indiana is next on their hit list. We just passed a similar law and the lefties were up in arms about it. Of course a state issued ID card is about 5 bucks. THis just goes to show you that people with complain about anything.
 
NAACP wants to represent illegal aliens and make it into a race issue, that's all this is. I would think blacks would be offended by the insinuation that their race as a whole cannot afford to get some form of ID.
 
Anything that hinders an American's right to vote should be prohibited. Obviously we can't stop everything that occurs, but I have a major problem with laws like this.
 
but I have a major problem with laws like this.
Voting is the one civil right that absolutly depends on registration and estabishing identity. You might think it was more important if you showed up at the polls and they said, "Sorry. You've already voted today."
"But, that wasn't me!"
"How do I know you are who you say you are? Can you prove that it wasn't the real you who already voted?"
 
Henry Bowman,

I agree with you that establishing identity is necessary, but requiring a fee to be able to establish identity does not sound like a good idea when it comes to voting.

The system would be potentially abused, just like poll taxes and literacy tests.

As it is, if you don't have ID, you have to sign an affadavit saying you are who you say you are. If you lie, then you have broken the law.

I think the state of Georgia should have to issue free ID to everyone if this law is going to be fair.
 
Do you need some form of ID to get welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, SS benefits, WIC, etc.? If so, the problem for 99% of those who don't otherwise have a DL is solved.

For the remainder, yes, it would be in the state's interest to get them "enrolled" at no fee to them. I bet that would end up being a very, very small number. "Here. Fill out this form saying that you you have no currently-valid form of ID and that cannot afford the fee." Problem solved.

But, ouch! The consequences! :what: When each person only votes once -- and all of those are non-felon, living citizens.
 
So give them free state ID cards. They look like DL's, but you can't drive with them. At least, we got them here, maybe everwhere is not the same. My brothers got them to prevent any problems while flying.

Don't you got a voter card you present while voting anyways? I thought the one time I didn't do an absentee, they looked at it and crossed my name off a list.
 
It's a red herring. The real issue isn't about the fee to get a state issued ID. The leftists are p1$$ed because they won't be able to engage in voter fraud without getting caught. The NAACP is just being a useful idiot for them.
 
The new law also changes the ID card law so that anyone can obtain an ID card for free provided they sign a form saying they can't afford the fee.

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/fulltext/hb244.htm
SECTION 66.
Code Section 40-5-103 of the O.C.G.A., relating to fee for identification cards, is amended by adding a new subsection (d) to read as follows:
(d) The department shall not be authorized to collect a fee for an identification card from any person:
(1) Who swears under oath that he or she is indigent and cannot pay the fee for an identification card, that he or she desires an identification card in order to vote in a primary or election in Georgia, and that he or she does not have any other form of identification that is acceptable under Code Section 21-2-417 for identification at the polls in order to vote; and
(2) Who produces evidence that he or she is registered to vote in Georgia.
This subsection shall not apply to a person who has been issued a drivers license in this state.
 
It could get particularly costly for those who vote several times in each election.---Henery Bowman

Not to mention the difficulty involved in getting current pictures of so many dead voters.:)


Respectfully,

jkelly
 
I hardly think that people voting more than once is a serious problem. Considering the line-ups people had to wait in last time, at the stations that had the most irregularities, it would have been almost physically impossible to go through the lines multiple times. With digital voting if there is going to be voter fraud it's going to be in a modern form of box-stuffing, with pre-loaded hard drives, or with other untraceable cheats possible so easily in a digital medium.

Besides, aren't only 1/3 of black people eligible to vote anyway, for felony convictions? There was a statistic in the economist couple weeks ago.
 
When there is a block of people that have a voter turnout of 15-20% average nationwide, the polls are set up to accept that number in the coresponding districts. The voter delay problems begin when the expected numbers of voters in that district exceed the past averages.
 
Thanks for that link. I thought I had heard that the ID's could be obtained for free. Seriously, if you don't have an ID, you should get one. If it was 25 cents I think people would still complain.

Anything that hinders an American's right to vote should be prohibited. Obviously we can't stop everything that occurs, but I have a major problem with laws like this.
Setting up a system that makes it easy for fraud to take place is a MAJOR hindrance to my voting rights. "One Man One Vote" is meaningless if fraud is going on. Voting is a priveledge in my opinion.

They should also require the ID or a photocopy to be sent with applications for voter absentee ballots.

The other source of fraud this doesn't address is voting in multiple states since state election people don't talk to other states much.

It is amazing how a small number of dishonest people can really screw up what should be a simple system.
 
I call BS on the people who claim not to be able to afford a driver's license. Show me the person that claims that and I gah-rohn-tee I can find them a job that will enable them to cover $20 for 5 years. If they don't like that they can hit up Alec Baldwin and anyone else that doesnt like it for cash to pay for it.

The left just wants to be able to advance their garbage via voter fraud and this is a roadblock to it.
 
Voter Fraud? Here in Chicago it's a science

If you start asking for a form of legal identification it will definitely surpress the vote. Here in Chicago it will be harder for those ward bosses operating church buses to go from polling place to polling place with their loads of nursing home residents and others available for the election.

Ask Clinton's buddy Rahm Emanuel where his landslide came from in the last election. Thomczak, a Daley bag man, turned it out for him to show Daley's strength at the street level. Now Thomczak is going to serve time for the hired truck financial scandals. Maybe he'll sing about voting issues too. I won't hold my breath for it though.

In Chicago voting early and often is a tried and true solution to solving your electoral problems. No ID, no proof required to vote.

In the 2000 presidential election when William Daley got up on TV and announced that he suspected that there might have been voter irregularities in Florida, I must have laughed for a half hour. Just seeing a Daley complaining about vote fraud with a straight face was too much for me.

Show some ID when you vote dammit, it's the least you can do. Or maybe we should just do the thumbs in purple ink, like they did in Iraq?
 
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