NAA'S mini revolver??

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Cosmose

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hi, i was wondering if anybody had (our have shot ) a naa mini revolver? their mighty small and would be easy to conceal. i was curious about accuracy, would they be accurate enough to kill a snake up close? or more like man size targets at 3 yrds.:confused: also what about the one with the fold up handle and clip, can you open it with one hand???

Thanks for any info:)
 
I have a friend at work that has the little 22lr. He said that these guns are accurate for such a small gun.

;)
 
22 Mini Revolver

Hi Cosmose,

I've owned one for some time now and carry it everywhere. I practice with the LR cylinder and carry it with the magnum cylider.

At 7 yards, it will hold about a 6" group, shooting with two handsand using the stock birds head grip.

For snakes, there are shotshells that can be preloaded, if you're headed into snake country.

I got the 1 1/8 inch barrel for concealability. If that's not your primary consideration, there are other barrels available that will give you more FPS and greater accuracy.

It's a great little pistol, concealable and comfortable. I believe the .22 magnum to be a greatly underrated round. In any case, it's far superior to a rock!

Shoot well,

Scarface
 
Greeting's All-

I'm another satisfied owner of a 1-1/8" barrrel .22 magnum
NAA mini. Quite a quality back-up gun for the price! About
10 to 15 feet is the maximum distance I shoot from,
with fairly good result's. I have the regular bird's head
grips on my piece also.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
Had one for years...

Regular .22LR with the inch and an eighth barrel. I just picked up some off-white micarta grips for it at a gunshow. Excellent "Get off me" gun. Lotsa people here have a NAA Mini Revolver.

KR
 
Here's a review of my little .22 mag that I originally posted over at the NAA forum at naaminis.com. Maybe I am just lucky, but I can hit pretty well with mine out to 15 yards or so. I love this little gun!

"Put about 300 rounds through my new .22 mag convertable (Bought it for $125 at the Dallas Market Hall gun show last weekend) yesterday - here are my results:

I used a one hand hold for all these shots.

I was expecting that the gun would be only 3 yard accurate at the best so that is where I started to shot at in order to get an idea of point of aim/point of impact. The first shot (using .22 lr ammo) was about 6 inches low but dead center. I adjusted my sight picture so that the barrel was basically level to the target with the front sight tip right where I wanted the bullet to go. If I had a rear sight, it would have been the usual target alignment I am used to with my other guns. Next shot - dead center, the next 3 shots, all within about 1 1/2". WOW pretty accurate at 3 yards!

Stepped back to 7 yards, same sight picture (still using .22lr ammo) all 5 rounds in the center of the target. (one round keyholed)

I shot another 50 rounds at this distance and, other than pulling a shot or two, all rounds were within a 5" circle. I was not worrying about smallest groups at this point, but more concentrating on just getting comfortable holding the gun and trying to hit COM.

Stepped back to 15 yards - STILL able to hit the target with the same hold (thought I did raise my point of aim just a hair)! I was flabbergasted! All of my misconceptions about this tiny gun had been dashed by this point. I was still hitting my paper plate target everytime. I shot another 50 rounds from this position.

By now, I was confident that I could hit what I aimed at everytime.

Went to a steel plate target at about 10 yards - rang the gong every time for another 100 rounds. I was having some serious fun now. The other gun I had brought to shoot (a sp101) was being neglected. I just did not want to stop shooting the mini.

I shot the remainder of my rounds for the day trying to increase my speed with this little gun. After awhile, I was able to get pretty good shooting as fast as I could cock the hammer.

I finally shot the SP101 - but only because I wanted to function test it as I carry this gun when I need to carry something larger than my usual pocket gun (traveling or working late nights etc...)

So - the mini earned my respect and I was amazed that the short barrel .22 was so fun to shoot. I am confident that I can hit what I want to with it with no hesitation. Another few thousand rounds an I should be really good

BTW, I did put 100 rounds of mag ammo through it as well. I was not quite as accurate with the .22 mag ammo, but I was only slightly less proficient with it. I still will carry this gun with mag ammo for SD purposes. GREAT LITTLE GUN! Makes me want a Black Widow now!"

NQ
 
Oh, they're accurate all right!

OK: the best mini is the Black Widow with the smaller of the two factory sight setups and both 22LR and 22Mag cylinders. This is the 2" "heavy" barrel variant ("heavy" only in comparison to the smaller minis!). It also comes standard with big rubber grips - you'll want to either shave the rubber down to something more concealable, or better yet switch to the smaller wood grips (less than $20 from NAA or there's actually some custom grips available :p).

Underneath that large rubber grip, the Black Widow and MiniMaster (4" barrel) share the same grip frame as the short-barrel 22Magnum family.

With smaller grips on, a Black Widow is still very "pocketable" and will have seriously better sights and slightly better ballistics than the 1 and 1/8th or 1 and 5/8ths flavors. For some reason, adding an inch of barrel to these smaller 22Mags gives you an extra 100fps velocity(!).

Ammo: there are ONLY two loads I'd carry for personal defense - the CCI MaxiMag +V and the "TNT" flavor of that same round. Both use 30grain JHPs and get about 1,200fps from a Black Widow 2" barrel (1,400 from a MiniMaster 4"). The "TNT" uses a Sierra bullet with a bigger JHP. Basically, if you want more reliable expansion go TNT, if you want a deeper punch go with the original formula.

I've fired a LOT of these in two different minis and both accuracy and ignition reliability have been superb.

Winchester has a 33Grain Supreme that looks good on paper but I have NOT had as much success with ignition.

A 30grainer @ 1,200 is around the middle of the pack of 32ACP, in terms of energy level.

You'll hear people "dis" the 22Mag in small handguns, saying it's not giving you anything more than 22LR is. With all too many 22Mag loads, there's some merit to that but those two CCIs are tuned well for short barrels and make these guns a viable "front pocket surprise".
 
The Black Widow is definitely the one to get. I like the rubber grips for better handling and have no problem hiding them in regular pants pockets.

The .22lr conversion cylinder is a must have. Get a brick of Colibris and some empty soda cans for quiet (cap gun loud) backyard fun.
 
Jim's right...

The BW is a fine little piece. I wonder about the two cylinders though.
Changing cylinders is sometimes a tricky thing. Maybe NAA "tunes" every one which takes two cylinders. Seems chancy to "stamp" each one out and expect it to work right every time. What do you think?

KR
 
Yep agree, very well made,and accurate.
I used to turn heads when I said I carried extra speed loaders for mine...:)
One can get pretty quick with one as mentioned.
And they can be a lot of fun. We would set up eggs, fruit, balloons...etc., and run a COF, of 5 stages and use 2 guns. ( I left my speed loaders at home that day). Surprising and a lot of fun.
 
Both cylinders are fitted to the gun. You have to send the gun in if you want a .22lr cylinder for a gun that didn't come with one. both of mine show good accuracy.
 
Great little guns. Currently have the magnum, 1-5/8", with both cylinders and two .22 lr models. Have owned several others over the years also. For some reason I can shoot the lr better than the magnum. Often carry one when I need very concealed carry. Beats having no gun with you.
 
man, i sure am wanting one. how do you load-unload it?? i don't see no loading gate like my ruger single six?:confused: i bet the one with the wood grips has a bit of recoil with the magnums.
 
You reload by pulling the cylinder :D.

Yes, I'm serious - the base pin pops right out with a pushbutton release; you then use the base pin to push the empties out, re-stuff the cylinder and put it back in.

This leads people to look at the 22LR cylinder kinda funny. You can stuff that with the hottest 22LR available and use it as a "Clint Eastwood reload" although doing that under stress would be...adventuresome :eek:.
 
What about the NAA mini that has a folding grip. It folds up towards the muzzle and you unfold it to shoot. Is this one durable? Does the grip cause any problems?

Steve
 
SteveW13:

I had a NAA mini .22LR in that configuration. The problem is that the folding grip renders the handgun too bulky for its intended purpose. I swapped mine out for a pair of rubber bird's head grips, and just use the suede holster in a pocket. A secondary "problem" with the folding grips is that it requires two hands to open, a luxury that might not be available in a panic situation.

Durability-wise, the folding grip was fine...and it DID afford a more comfortable firing platform. But on balance, I prefer the bird's head configuration for the intended purpose of the mini, which is a DEEP concealment piece that is readily accessible.

Like many of the posters here, I love my mini.

--JFrame
 
The folding grips are just that, grips, on an otherwise standard NAA gun. So if you buy one used so equipped, less than $20 gets you the standard grips...it's not like you're stuck with the folding grip...
 
Ditto the Black Widdow

I got a front site from NAA that was for the ajustable rear and replaced my front sight. I was then able to zero the BW to my load by filing the front down to work with my fixed (drift ajustable) rear sight. A bonus is that the front sight has a red ramp. After filing a little cold blue & it all looks good. I also took a pair of wood grips and ground them down to a shape like Houge's bantam- fills behind the trigger, but doesn't add too much bulk. I also de-horned (de-pointed?) the thing- it has some sharp corners. I am very pleased with the accuracy. Far better than the standard NAA I had before. Gotta go with the convertable.

X
 
JFrame,

So the folding grips are too bulky for pocket carry? They look like they would break up the outline.

Steve
 
What 10mmman means is that there's an NAA optional wood grip halfway in size between the small bird's-head and large clunky rubber. A lot of people use that "intermediate wood" as a starting point, shaving it down to whatever is needed.

See also the accessories at http://www.naaminis.com
 
NAA

I have a .22 mag version with the short barrel. I carry it often, sometimes as a backup. I ordered the larger black rubber grips and a holster direct from NAA. It's a really neat little holster. You can clip it on your pants and wear it inside the waist band or clip it on your front pocket....the holster will ride in the pocket and the clip will show like a knife clip. Conceals nicely. I usually practice from about 3 to 5 yards at beverage cans. One of the other features is that you can carry it fully loaded, because you can lower the hammer between the cylinders. There are notchs especially made to lower the hammer into. Pretty safe idea. That's my experince with one.
skynyrd1911
 
Jim March, t
hat was a good post. Relects my experiences exactly. I switched to the Minis because I couldn't find a small auto that was reliable enough.
Looking for a good load for my BW, I found Win Supreme 34 gr impressive, going 1125 fps adv., but some cylinders were stuck. It was difficult to cock the hammer for a follow-on shot. May be because the gun was dirty, but it didn't happen with other loads.
Others clocked
CCI +v 30 gr...................1150......
Win Dynapoint 45 gr...........850...........
CCI maxi mag 40 gr.............890.........
Win std laos 40 gr ............1000......
 
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