thomas15
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Rule3, it sounds like you are having an argument or debate with Rule3!!!
New Auto Breech Lock Pro
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someguy2800
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I buy Lee because they genuinely make products that are different and more innovative than other manufactures. Nobody else makes anything like an auto drum powder measure. Nobody else makes anything like a classic turret. Nobody makes anything like a collet sizing die. Nobody makes anything like the powder through expanding dies. Nobody makes anything like a factory crimp die with the carbide sizer ring. I started with all rcbs stuff because I was told it was the best and sold most of it after finding on my own that Lee makes stuff with features I wanted that nobody else does. Same deal with this, I’m buying this because I think it fits my use of being versatile and fast to change calibers vs a Dillon or Hornady. About half my equipment is Lee and the rest is other manufactures because either Lee doesn’t make it or some things Lee makes I don’t like, such as case trimmers, powder scales, powder dispenser, specialty dies, lube, ect... I buy the product that I think fits best for me regardless of brand. I was surprised to find after joining a pistol league that about 70% of us were Lee users and when people in the league have asked us about equipment to buy we have all unanimously recommended Lee products.
thomas15
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^^^Have a fantastic day!!!
Zendude
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I would be interested to know whether the automatic bullet feeder can be used in station 4. The design intends (I think) for the bullet to be seated at station 3 and crimped at station 4. I would rather use a Powder Cop at station 3 and use the combo seating and crimping die in station 4. If I do that, then I would have to use my right hand to place the bullet on the case because of the location of station 4. That would be awkward for me - I like to keep my right hand on the handle and add bullets (and primers for this press) with my left.
How so? You must have me confused with someone else?
I am long standing member of the Red Team and have been defending Lee for years. I have nothing but Lee stuff and lots of it.
Plus they are from Wisconsin and so is my Wife. Go Cheese Heads
I like Vortex Optics also, but lot of their stuff is made overseas.
thomas15
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Wisconsin is a nice state. The comparison of Wisconsin to Illinois is like the comparison of Pennsylvania to New Jersey. Night and day.
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Seriously??? MaryAnn all day long!!!
I think we are all intrigued by this new press as if offers a lot of functionality for a low price. The key part of my sentence is the "low price" part.
There are lots of other "progessive" presses that offer more functionality and look to be of higher quality than this press, but it is the price point that has grabbed our attention.
I have a Lee LCT, but most of my loading takes place on my Dillon XL650 which I would not compare to the new Lee Auto Breech Lock Pro, but then again, its price point is several times higher.
I am interested because it might be a cool think to dedicate to a caliber that I don't load often, but often enough to keep a caliber setup at all times. For me, that might be .45 ACP. I make about 3K loads a year, tops. It is enough work to change the caliber on the XL650 (and go from small to large primers) that maybe it makes sense to dedicate the new Lee to my .45 loads. I mostly load 9mm and .40 S&W on the XL650, and I use the LCT for rifle work.
The new Lee would be a great addition to the reloading room (provided that everything works as advertised) for a dedicated load like the .45 for me.
I am excited!!!
thomas15
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Maybe I'm the only one that has noticed this but there seems to be a lack of pictures showing the press with all of the possible add-ons installed. Once this press gets into the hands of members of THR and pictures start showing up I think it will make for some interesting discussion. I guess though in general one of the negatives of a 4 station press is with only that many stations it limits your options. I'm sure that if the bullet feeder can be installed, with or without modifications, in station 4, someone here will show us how it's done!
ON EDIT: One of the debated on THR questions on this press revolves around the use of the safety primer. While that eliminates the feed problems associated with the LM and P1000, it also makes it necessary to put station #1 at the front of the press because if it were shifted 1 place clockwise, the primer tools would be at the back of the press making it more difficult to access than it already is. It seems like Lee could have put a mounting bracket for the bullet feeder on both station #3 and 4 but I will venture to guess that that would get in the way of the case feeder. But of course time will tell.
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thomas15
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I am in the same boat you are in. I would like to have 1 or 2 more presses to load 38 spl and 45acp on dedicated presses. Most of my shooting is 9mm.
For me though, having to set up an entirely new press, the new Lee would be +/- $250.00 (less shell plates) and a new LNL $380.00 (also less shell plates) so for $130.00 more I get a 5 station press that is leagues above in quality and functionality. I btw included the cost of the case feeder and bullet feeder in the cost of the Lee and would do without those on a LNL. I may be wrong and if I am someone will spank me I'm sure but having a manual primer (safety primer) makes having at the minimum a case feeder almost mandatory. If you don't have that, you're left hand will never stop moving.
thomas15
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I don't know about lame. Looks ok to me. Seems like the handle travel is a bit long.
But I cannot wait for bds to scold Titan for using the chain on the powder measure!
Thanks for the video. even though I am very used to the Lee Safety Prime I think it would drive me nuts and lead to mistakes on a "progressive" To me a progressive needs to have a auto primer feed. His comment about verify a primer is seated is kinda lame. You can tell by the "feel" on the press lever.
If someone does not used the case feed and a bullet feed then that is three things to do "manually" and is not going to offer much more than the turret press.
Hard to say without actually using it and going through the motions.
JMO
I agree with you. I am going to be interested to hear what some of the Beta Testers have to say.
Dave
thomas15
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???? Illinois?? How did that State get in the conversation?
Gun owners in New Jersey either move to Pennsylvania or wish they could move to PA the same as gun owners in Illinois either move to Wisconsin or wish they could move to Wisconsin. In both cases, neighboring states with quite different gun laws.
Why are people in New York always unhappy ........... because the light at the end of the tunnel is New Jersey.......
The thing I find interesting about the Breech Lock Pro is that it looks like I can run it pretty much like my LCT but get a complete bullet with each pull of the handle. With equipment I'm very familiar with and at the same leisurely pace I'm accustomed to.
Not gonna spank you. I’m not into that kind of stuff.
The press is $106, case feed is $25, and bullet feed is $35. That makes the LnL loosely $230 more. The league above in quality and functionality is speculation at this point. I do know that if I still had my LnL AP I would install the Lee Breechlock system on it and remove the Hornady bushings. Should of thought of that before I sold it.
Zendude
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Not gonna spank you. I’m not into that kind of stuff.
The press is $106, case feed is $25, and bullet feed is $35. That makes the LnL loosely $230 more. The league above in quality and functionality is speculation at this point. I do know that if I still had my LnL AP I would install the Lee Breechlock system on it and remove the Hornady bushings. Should of thought of that before I sold it.
I think the powder measure and safety prime are also additional costs. Seems like all of the Lee progressive presses are all about the same cost.
thomas15
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Not gonna spank you. I’m not into that kind of stuff.
The press is $106, case feed is $25, and bullet feed is $35. That makes the LnL loosely $230 more. The league above in quality and functionality is speculation at this point. I do know that if I still had my LnL AP I would install the Lee Breechlock system on it and remove the Hornady bushings. Should of thought of that before I sold it.
Press $120.00
pez dispenser $22.00
case feeder $26.00
collator $12.00
powder measure $35.00
riser $10.00
bullet feeder $32.00 That comes out to $257.00 which I believe is +/- $250.00
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