Beretta has made several models over the years, not just the older original model.
Here's my 92 Steel I (steel frame, vertec grip SAO trigger)
Also my Beretta 92 Combat combo (SAO trigger)
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Beretta has made several models over the years, not just the older original model.
Here's my 92 Steel I (steel frame, vertec grip SAO trigger)
Also my Beretta 92 Combat combo (SAO trigger)
Old Dog
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Well known Beretta whore checking in. Wallet is loaded, ready to pull out at the first sighting of an alloy-framed 92X SAO.
lobo9er
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Recently bought my first Beretta, a 92x compact have been enjoying carrying it. Im not sure Id care for it in single action only though. Just not used to it. Never owned a 1911 or any other pistol that function like that. Only revolvers, striker fired and DA/SA autos. For carry I appreciate the long D.A. Id feel funny carrying with a safety, Just haven't before is all. They are pretty though.
I'm still on the lookout for a 92D with the newer frame that has a light rail. The trigger on the 92D is smooth as butter and can easily be controlled all the way forward and rearward easily . These newer 92's with the optics/red dot cuts are just making the 92 look too futuristic and giving it more parts than need be in my opinion.
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This is a good move. Is the frame steel or alloy?
I like heavy steel guns and I like SAO semi autos. I also like that the vertec grip will make this pistol friendlier for smaller-handed folks. The regular 92FS is a brick in this regard. Shootable but certainly not optimum for trigger control or reaching other controls without grip adjustment.
I like heavy steel guns and I like SAO semi autos. I also like that the vertec grip will make this pistol friendlier for smaller-handed folks. The regular 92FS is a brick in this regard. Shootable but certainly not optimum for trigger control or reaching other controls without grip adjustment.
AlexanderA
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I agree that the Beretta 92FS is tough to use for someone with small hands. But I think the reason for this is the circumference of the grip, and the trigger position, rather than the grip profile. For a comparison, look at the original M1911, with the flat mainspring housing, versus the M1911A1, with the arched housing. My understanding is that the arched housing was adopted precisely for a better fit for those with smaller hands! It improved pointability.
someguy2800
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I remember seeing some of them come in on the surplus market a few years ago. I think they were law enforcement pistols from somewhere in europe. They had the early manual safety's and heel style mag release. They didn't come out with decocker until like year 3 of production and the manual safety version stayed in production alongside for awhile.
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I *think* it’s the opposite. I’ve heard the humped grip was supposed to improve ergonomics and pointability for larger/average hands, where formerly the pistol tended to point low for most.
I’ve never tried a flat mainspring housing 1911. I can shoot the arched design decently enough and I do have small hands. I’ve wondered about the flat one but the arched design also looks better. It’s on the “one of these days” list.
D.B.
I have seen a BERETTA 92 a long, long time ago. A friend sold me his MAB P-15 and took the money to buy a BERETTA 92. It was the first one that I had seen. They sold slowly until they became the military standard pistol and then police departments went wild for them and then the LETHAL WEAPON movie came out and the rest is history. The 92FS that the military bought could be considered a 4th generation pistol. The 92S with the safety moved to the slide, but still using the heel mounted magazine release would be the second generation.
The 92F with the rear of the thumb guard mounted magazine release would be the 3rd generation and the 92FS adopted by the military and many law enforcement agencies is what became the M9 and the basis for most of the BERETTA 92/96 unless you want to consider it also a third generation. It is a different gun with internal safety changes.
To my knowledge, the only BERETTA 92D pistols with the light rail were the VERTEC D models. I have a 96D VERTEC and like it a lot.
Jim
I have seen a BERETTA 92 a long, long time ago. A friend sold me his MAB P-15 and took the money to buy a BERETTA 92. It was the first one that I had seen. They sold slowly until they became the military standard pistol and then police departments went wild for them and then the LETHAL WEAPON movie came out and the rest is history. The 92FS that the military bought could be considered a 4th generation pistol. The 92S with the safety moved to the slide, but still using the heel mounted magazine release would be the second generation.
The 92F with the rear of the thumb guard mounted magazine release would be the 3rd generation and the 92FS adopted by the military and many law enforcement agencies is what became the M9 and the basis for most of the BERETTA 92/96 unless you want to consider it also a third generation. It is a different gun with internal safety changes.
To my knowledge, the only BERETTA 92D pistols with the light rail were the VERTEC D models. I have a 96D VERTEC and like it a lot.
Jim
AlexanderA
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Berettas and Tauruses with accessory rails seem like fish out of water. These are guns that, historically, belong in the 1980's and 90's. The 21st century has seen the rise of polymer, striker-fired pistols with accessory rails. A different generation completely. I have my Sig Sauer M17's / M18's. It seems like a waste of time to update the previous generation of pistols, adding rails. It's almost like putting a rail on a 1911, or single-action revolver.
FL-NC
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Like every other version of that gun- not for me. JMB got it right on the SA autoloading design. IMO.
Riomouse911
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Cool idea, I would love to shoot one someday and compare side by side to a standard 92FS.
A bit out of my price range tho
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A bit out of my price range tho
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Because there are still people, myself included, who see value in, and prefer, the DA/SA design. Some of those people would like the advantage of a WML or some sort of RDS/optic. (This is especially true when you consider that many of those people who still prefer the DA/SA design were young when the 92 came out, and now have declining eyesight.
Just because it's new, doesn't mean it's better. Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's obsolete.
A few thoughts with this:
1. Is the trigger materially better than the single action on the DA/SA models? Or just the same?
2. What is the target market with this model? Competition? Carry? LE?
3. USPSA recently announced a provisional “Limited Optics” division, which appears to have been designed around the 9mm 2011 guns. But slap a magwell and an optic on this along with some 141mm mags and a couple of the Beretta fanboys may try them in that venue.
I own both the Beretta 92FS and the Taurus 92AF. Like many others, I prefer the frame mounted safety. I’ve carried it in Condition 1 on many occasions. I prefer not having to transition from the long DA trigger to the short SA trigger. The Taurus actually has a better trigger than the Beretta, both SA & DA.
1. Is the trigger materially better than the single action on the DA/SA models? Or just the same?
2. What is the target market with this model? Competition? Carry? LE?
3. USPSA recently announced a provisional “Limited Optics” division, which appears to have been designed around the 9mm 2011 guns. But slap a magwell and an optic on this along with some 141mm mags and a couple of the Beretta fanboys may try them in that venue.
I own both the Beretta 92FS and the Taurus 92AF. Like many others, I prefer the frame mounted safety. I’ve carried it in Condition 1 on many occasions. I prefer not having to transition from the long DA trigger to the short SA trigger. The Taurus actually has a better trigger than the Beretta, both SA & DA.
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I struggle to understand this. It' just a training and practice issue. I run mine in a lot of USPSA type matches, and I don't even notice the transition.
Maybe I'm just spoiled, shooting decent (not even great) 1911 triggers. The triggers on a DA/SA gun just don't compare.
Doesn't mean I can't shoot a DA/SA effectively. Just not my preference.
wally
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My Steel-I has been my "avatar" since I got it. Great shooting pistol.
What a ridiculous statement.
1. SAO is usually much better than the SA pull on a DA/SA trigger, especially if comparing similar models like a SAO Beretta vs DA/SA Beretta.
2. Looks to be mainly focused on target shooters, I don't think a large volume of other segments opt for SAO handguns these days.
3. There are lots of suitable competitions it could be used in, whether its the best option would be questionable though.
InTheSwamp
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That's what I thought. Hard to compete against all the CZ, Atlas, etc., but Beretta is a big company, they can always come up with a more polished version of this for serious competition.
C-grunt
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I think this is some squarely at the competition scene. The 2011s are doing great there but can be very expensive. The 92 has always shot phenomenal but never had the best trigger or safety location.
JTQ
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They already have their competition versions...
92X Performance https://www.beretta.com/en-us/beretta-92x-performance/
92X Performance Defensive https://www.beretta.com/en-us/beretta-92x-performance-defensive/
Both have slide mounted thumb safeties, steel frames, and adjustable sights.
