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What's the story about Nick Berg being connected to Mousoui(sp?), the alleged 9/11 20th hijacker?!
 
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Go to http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/11/iraq/main616842.shtml and click on the video link that says "Investigations into the execution of American Nick Berg show his killer was a top al Qaeda operative, and reveal a past link to 9/11 suspect Zaccarias Moussaoui, David Martin reports".

If you have trouble with the stream showing the Wal=Mart commercial over and over, scan down the list of videos on the righ to the one that says "Strange Twist In Berg Case". Then click on the video symbol, not the text.
 
"checking him out" = detaining him, an American citizen, for over a week without being charged or access to a lawyer.
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w4rma,
It's called a war zone. Writ of habeas corpus does not yet apply there, not to mention the young man was in a foreign country, where the US Constitution does not apply.

As there is not yet a fully constituted government of Iraq, I'd take a leap of faith here and think Iraq has not yet ratified a Constitution at this time.

Where in the world do you think that young man went-Newark??
 
RileyMc--although you seem to have a good grip on this--I fail to understand exactly what a lawsuit had to do with the kid getting sprung.

First of all, whom did the parents sue? The Government of the US? The Government of Iraq (what's that????)

Secondly, if the kid is being held by Iraqi police, what effect would a lawsuit against the US have?---for that matter, against the Iraqi police?

This "lawsuit" stuff is a smokescreen from Berg. He's trying to get us to believe that his lawsuit had something to do with the release. I think it was pure coincidence, period.
 
What's the story about Nick Berg being connected to Mousoui(sp?), the alleged 9/11 20th hijacker?!
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Oh, not much. Just that known terrorists, including Zacarias Moussaoui, had used Berg's email address and password to exchange messages. Nothing that would warrant US authorities to take him into custody and question him when he showed up in Iraq.
Berg's encounter with 'terrorist' revealed



WEST CHESTER, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- When Nicholas Berg took an Oklahoma bus to a remote college campus a few years ago, the American recently beheaded by terrorists allowed a man with terrorist connections to use his laptop computer, according to his father.

Michael Berg said the FBI investigated the matter more than a year ago. He stressed that his son was in no way connected to the terrorists who captured and killed him.

Government sources told CNN that the encounter involved an acquaintance of Zacarias Moussaoui -- the only person publicly charged in the United States in connection with the September 11, 2001, terror attacks.

According to Berg, his son was taking a course a few years ago at a remote campus of the University of Oklahoma near an airport. He described how on one particular day, his son met "some terrorist people -- who no one knew were terrorists at the time."

At one point during the bus ride, Berg said, the man sitting next to his son asked if he could use Nick's laptop computer.

"It turned out this guy was a terrorist and that he, you know, used my son's e-mail, amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to," Berg said.

Government sources said Berg gave the man his password, which was later used by Moussaoui, the sources said.

The sources said the man who used Berg's e-mail knew Moussaoui, now awaiting trial on federal charges that could bring a death sentence. But the sources would not disclose details of how the men were connected.

Moussaoui, 36, was arrested in August 2001 after he aroused suspicion at a Minnesota flight school when he arrived for 747 simulator training without holding a pilot's license. A French national of Moroccan descent, Moussaoui has admitted in open court that he belonged to al Qaeda, the radical Islamic group behind the September 11 attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/index.html
 
How exactly does one use e-mail while riding on a college bus or public bus? Are there terminals for high speed access?

How exactly does a terrorist, or anybody for that matter, get your password by using your computer? The computer simply remembers the password and there is no need to divulge that type of information for "simple use."

Where is that stinky-fish smiley?
 
If he was using a mail program like Outlook, you can compose messages offline, and the computer will send them next time you get online and run the program. I'd guess that's what happened, if the account is true.
 
First of all, whom did the parents sue? The Government of the US? The Government of Iraq (what's that????)

Secondly, if the kid is being held by Iraqi police, what effect would a lawsuit against the US have?---for that matter, against the Iraqi police?
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It is my understanding that Michael Berg filed a lawsuit in Philadelphia against the U.S. Governmnent. The excerpt from this link http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/12/iraq.berg/
says: " Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24, under suspicion of possible involvement in illegal or terrorist activities. He was released April 6.

The day before his release, Berg's family filed a lawsuit against Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the Defense Department, saying the United States was holding its son without merit"

I don't think anybody heard from him after April 6th.

Edited: OK, he '''went missing" April 9th according to this article http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=510315&section=news


It seems the filing of the lawsuit led to Nick Berg's release, only to be kidnapped and killed.
 
How exactly does one use e-mail while riding on a college bus or public bus? Are there terminals for high speed access?

How exactly does a terrorist, or anybody for that matter, get your password by using your computer? The computer simply remembers the password and there is no need to divulge that type of information for "simple use."

Where is that stinky-fish smiley?
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Good questions, no answers. As a fish smells from the head first, I get the feeling the smell on this case comes from the head also -- the head of this family, Michael Berg.
 
Tonight, and repeated through the weekend, Geraldo Rivera (FoxNEWS "At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera") will be asking the tough questions about Berg's affiliations, whereabouts in Iraq, etc. He, too, says he has a tough time with the sheer vastness of the odds that Berg seems to have surmounted. He is, to my knowledge, the first media type to question the odds involved in Berg's incredible path to his demise.

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Geraldo and the reporters ran through all the "It doesn't smell right." stuff about the affair. The only part that's really questionable about official statements is that of Iraqi police holding him, without US instruction/control/supervision. Other stuff, no real substantiation beyond, "The government always lies about everything."

Nothing was brought out about why he was there.

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I don't know that there even was wireless Internet service in 1999 other than perhaps in a laboratory developing it.

The Geraldo program questioned why he was there. Brought up the astronomical odds that of all of the computer using students in OK he was the one who sat next to a close associate of Moussaoui and gave him his password; and then, five years later and a half a world away was brutally killed by another associate of this same group.

He stated that he was an adventureous albeit stupid person. He illustrated the dangers of driving around alone in Baghdad by his own close brush with death -- having been shot at there -- and questioned why this guy, a practicing Jew, and an American to boot, was running around in a place where both aree targets for assassination.

He also questioned why, if it is as the State Department claims, he refused a transportation offer out of the country.

He also questioned the guy's father's story of why he refused the trip home as the trip to the airport was too dangerous to drive when he had been driving throughout the country with impunity and apparently without fear.

He questioned the Beth Payne memo stating that Berg was there and in U.S. custody and why the U.S. now states that he was never in their custody but in Iraqi custody but questioned by the FBI. He also said he would like to see what Beth Payne would have to say under oath.

He also talked to a couple of Berg's buddies but they never saw anything wrong with him and weren't much help with why he was there other than he was a "tower guy".
 
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