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Those are all great firearms.
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I have heard that Glocks (and AR’s) have no soul repeatedly, and I have to disagree. To me, what gives a tool, any tool a “soul” are the thoughts and memories that you feel when you pick it up and put it in your hand.
For you, its that 1911 or Smith, and that’s great. I have to think that if I were to pick up your 1911 it would feel like “just another gun”. Not a bad gun, but just a gun.
Yes, Glocks are excellent guns and have proven themselves as one of the best and most reliable. I just prefer Sig Sauer for their quality of materials, excellent construction, and attention to detail. I also prefer hammer guns. As far as triggers, there is no comparison IMHO. Although, the new Glock 48 is calling my name!View attachment 829693
No Glocks in my house.
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Ruger for me. SR9 for the win in the Glock type category.
guyfromohio
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Shot my G48 today. Just like the rest of them...reliable 100%...great groups....BUT the damn groups are always left of center. No matter how much I push the sites. "Adjust your finger on the trigger" they say. "Why should I totally change the way I shoot for one brand?" is my reply. Great guns. Just don't shoot them well.
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Why do people say pushing the sights doesn’t change POI? Unpossible! Well, I guess it is possible if you push both of them. 
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Why do people say pushing the sights doesn’t change POI? Unpossible! Well, I guess it is possible if you push both of them.
Not globally. I have a site pusher for Glock, HK, and Sig...yes they all work. I just can't shoot a Glock without moving the gun left. Sounds like a personal problem? Yep, it is.
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Funny, how with iron sights such issues are always blamed on the shooter, but with red dots you just zero the sight. Why is that? If you ask a coach at the range why you are shooting a gun with iron sights low or high or left or right, he will always hand you the diagnosis card to suss out your problem. But never with a red dot or scope or laser. You just zero out the error. I suggest you just fix the sights and move on.
I dont shoot any gun better than I shoot a p320. All of my other polymer guns short of a pocket .380 and single stack 9mm (Rugers) were traded away.
It's not that I swore off Glocks because they stole my prom date and knocked my books out of my hands in the hallway. I think they are fine weapons. I would feel well served and protected with any Glock. I'm glad they work for so many of you, and I hope they serve you well for many many years.
The 320 just does what Glock does better for me. A small compact grip module on a full length slide not only fits my hands perfectly, it is also rather handsome. I don't see myself changing up anytime soon.
But there is room for all
It's not that I swore off Glocks because they stole my prom date and knocked my books out of my hands in the hallway. I think they are fine weapons. I would feel well served and protected with any Glock. I'm glad they work for so many of you, and I hope they serve you well for many many years.
The 320 just does what Glock does better for me. A small compact grip module on a full length slide not only fits my hands perfectly, it is also rather handsome. I don't see myself changing up anytime soon.
But there is room for all
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I'll not knock another man's firearm choice, unless it's a for real POS like some we've all handled at one time or another with a shudder. That said, we all have our own preferences. Personally, I'm not a fan of any striker fired guns, although I do own one. I prefer getting hammered. I mean, I prefer my guns with hammers. I shoot SA, even with my DA revolvers. My first gun purchase was a Python, and along the way I picked up an Anaconda. Really spoiled me for mushy triggers. I personally prefer no creep, just a crisp snap and bang.Yes, Glocks are excellent guns and have proven themselves as one of the best and most reliable. I just prefer Sig Sauer for their quality of materials, excellent construction, and attention to detail. I also prefer hammer guns. As far as triggers, there is no comparison IMHO. Although, the new Glock 48 is calling my name!
Funny story about the first Python, bought it in 1974 when I was yet still 21 when the April issue of Shooting Times came out with some pure porn on the cover. (See attachment). Gun porn that is. a couple of years ago I was telling someone of falling in love with the Python's looks from that cover shot. I figured, what the heck, let's see if there's a pic of the cover on the internet. Asked my good friend Google if there were any and lo and behold, there was a pic of the cover. From Ebay. Current auction. Clicked "buy it now" as fast as my mouse would go.
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ooops, that's the March issue.
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Outstanding
Olon, if you don't mind me butting in about you Sig envy, don't overlook buying a used P-series gun. It can get you a good sig at a far more reasonable price. They're absolutely not rocket science so if you have an issue with it, somebody here can easily walk you through it.
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No argument from me. I've had an SR9 for 10 years. No issues, great gun, I'll probably never get rid of it, fits my hand way better than a Glock. However, 10 years later, the P320 is superior IMHO, not very expensive and the M17 variant just looks cool. And, just like the SR9, I ignore the safety on the M17.
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Brother Boar,
To hear folks tell it, Glocks DO have a soul, it’s just a black, evil one! LOL!!!
Seriously, you know as well as I do that they are ALL tools. Your “beloved” Smith or 1911 may be more pleasing to your grip, bring back fond memories of great times and adventures with kin and clan, or simply have more nostalgic value, but it is still a piece of metal & wood that shoots bullets. Nothing more, nothing less.
So preferences and ergonomics noted, I support you owning and shooting whatever you choose, Brother...as does Clint:
May I ask why are the polymer SIGs junk in your opinion? No hostility meant. I'm purely curious.
I've had Glocks, Rugers, FNs, and SIGs in the polymer striker-fired variety. Please keep in mind, I dont consider myself an expert or even overly educated on the nuances of handguns. I've never served and never relied on a pistol to save my life.
That said, I found no real difference in quality among the brands I mentioned. To me, Glocks are fantastic at being ubiquitous do-it-all guns with a plethora of easily acquired parts and accessories but a bit chunky in my hands. The Rugers felt like quality, budget friendly guns. My first semi auto was an SR9. I did not care for the RAP .45. It hurt my thumb knuckle to shoot. The FNS feels like a gun built around the requirements of .gov contracts. Very solid, but the magazines are quite expensive. Also they seem to add and kill models a little too quickly for the civilian market. Still all of mine worked flawlessly.
I personally settled on the 320 because I bought it on a whim and loved it. The smooth metal trigger feels better than the blades Glock to my finger. I like the weight of the trigger and the contour of the grip in my hand. I know they had a hiccup with the drop safety. However, I think they handled it well enough. Got my notification via email, shipped it off and back in just a couple weeks, the trigger I received in return was even better than the one I had when I purchased the gun. I shoot it better than any Glock, Beretta, or 1911 I have ever owned.
I will say, the polymer SIGs certainly dont offer the same pride of ownership as the metal ones. A 226 is a grail of mine. However, for my modest needs, the 320 does the same thing at a price that fits my modest budget, ie full size 9mm that reliably goes off when I pull the trigger. One day, though
Fine Figure of a Man
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If shooting weak handed results in the same lateral POI as strong handed you can be pretty sure your sights are off (or on). For high or low POI shoot from a rest or have another competent shooter try. This would apply to any kind of sights or optics.
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I was just doing some light trolling like so many Glock bashers do. I am honestly indifferent about polymer pistols of any brand. All of the major makers make a decent one after they figure out initial issues, I just happen to be on the Glock wagon.
Sistema1927
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This thread made my buy a Sig P365 yesterday. I didn't know that I needed one before.
I got a good deal on a Blue Label gun.
I got a good deal on a Blue Label gun.
FlSwampRat
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To say any quality firearm is junk is most likely wrong. People may not like one or another, but that doesn't mean the ones they don't like are junk. As you say you like the SIG because of personal reasons and preferences. I don't like striker fired guns. Doesn't mean they're bad, means merely I don't like them.
There's lots of things that I don't like, from certain foods to certain types of movies, etc. Doesn't mean they're bad and no one should enjoy them because I don't enjoy them. To me, Glocks are purely utilitarian, they're not aesthetically pleasing to my eye. But then neither is a lot of modern art. It's personal choice. Doesn't make one right or wrong to like or not like.
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Sigs... great pistols, without any doubt. However, I am at the stage in life where I'm cutting back on excess material possessions. Sold my Sigs, for prices higher than what I purchased them for. P239 357 Sig, P220 .45 ACP with Virgil Tripp Hard Chrome, P226 Navy 9mm. Kept my Glocks and 1911's. I've come to like single action and Glock pistols, don't like DA triggers, even with practice. I carry pistols, don't like safe queens. YMMV.
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