Non-1911 .45s
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Harley Quinn
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I have non 1911 in 45 acp... One is a Glock M21 
The Astra A80 is another that fit at one time... Good one for the house now
Good luck...
The Astra A80 is another that fit at one time... Good one for the house now
Good luck...
modifiedbrowning
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Check out the Bersa Thunder .45.
www.bersa.com
www.bersa.com
LiveLife
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Definitely check out M&P45. With a trigger job, it is now out shooting all the polymer 45's at the range (I now use 1/2 sheet copy paper as targets and can place all of my shots on the paper at 20 yards off hand - much tighter off sand bags).
Recoil is mild and comes in compact size.
Feeds SWC bullet like butter and tight .451" barrel runs well with typical .452" diameter commercial lead bullets.
Yes, it is priced below $600.
Recoil is mild and comes in compact size.
Feeds SWC bullet like butter and tight .451" barrel runs well with typical .452" diameter commercial lead bullets.
Yes, it is priced below $600.
mesinge2
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I've got to tell ya I was always of the mind set that I would never own a tupperware gun, but was I wrong! See:
On the first range trip, I noticed shooting it was that is was surprisingly soft shooting, however the grip was small. I have odd bear-paw hands and I had to swap out the backstrap to the largest size at the range.
After the swap, the gun felt like a 1911 with the arched housing only thicker. The first time I shot it I brought an assortment of Hollow Point ammo just in case it didn't like something. I WASTED MY MONEY! It shot Speer GD, Hornady XTP+P, and Corbon JHP+P just like it was FMJ ammo. And as for accuracy, well look at this target from 14 yards:
Above is a CORBON JHP
I had it loaded to 13+1 and I can only see 11, maybe 12 holes. Which means that 2 to 3 rounds went through the same holes. I shot a total of 310 rounds of which 60 were hollow points and the rest were Magtech FMJ and Winchester FMJ (the light ones that look like JSWCs). After all that I was amazed at how soft shooting it was, It makes my Defender seem like a torture device.
Not a jam
On the first range trip, I noticed shooting it was that is was surprisingly soft shooting, however the grip was small. I have odd bear-paw hands and I had to swap out the backstrap to the largest size at the range.
After the swap, the gun felt like a 1911 with the arched housing only thicker. The first time I shot it I brought an assortment of Hollow Point ammo just in case it didn't like something. I WASTED MY MONEY! It shot Speer GD, Hornady XTP+P, and Corbon JHP+P just like it was FMJ ammo. And as for accuracy, well look at this target from 14 yards:
Above is a CORBON JHP
I had it loaded to 13+1 and I can only see 11, maybe 12 holes. Which means that 2 to 3 rounds went through the same holes. I shot a total of 310 rounds of which 60 were hollow points and the rest were Magtech FMJ and Winchester FMJ (the light ones that look like JSWCs). After all that I was amazed at how soft shooting it was, It makes my Defender seem like a torture device.
Not a jam
Most polymer .45's are going to flip fairly hard... except the Glock (and presumably the M&P).
I've had the pleasure of shooting a SW P99 .45ACP and an XD .45. They were both very accurate, but the high center of gravity + light weight increases the muzzle flip, substantially. This doesn't necessarily make them slower on followups, but it does make my wrist feel like a rubber band.
I've had the pleasure of shooting a SW P99 .45ACP and an XD .45. They were both very accurate, but the high center of gravity + light weight increases the muzzle flip, substantially. This doesn't necessarily make them slower on followups, but it does make my wrist feel like a rubber band.
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I have owned a Glock 21 and a XD .45, both are now history and I ended up with the M&P .45, and its not going anywhere. I love it.
Dropped in an Apex sear to lightly tune the trigger and textured the grip. It is very accurate, very reliable, well-priced, the recoil is surprisingly tame compared to many other polymer .45s - and lets face it, the pistol is just straight up sexy.
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IF you are already familiar with the XD manual of arms, a .45ACP version seems pretty natural. Staying in polymer, I prefer the M&P...just for my hands...and the H&K HK45 (but it is a bit outside your price range)
Just from your title, my first thought was a plain Sig 220...but then I buy a lot of used guns to keep cost down. I got my 220ST at that price, but I'm sure it has gone up in value...I'm pretty sure the alloy frames ones are still in your price range
Just from your title, my first thought was a plain Sig 220...but then I buy a lot of used guns to keep cost down. I got my 220ST at that price, but I'm sure it has gone up in value...I'm pretty sure the alloy frames ones are still in your price range
Red October
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+1 in favor of the XDM. I have the two-tone like Mesinge2, and it has enough weight to keep the muzzle rise minimal.
CZ57
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+2 for the XDm. Bore-axis snoreaxis the XDm is a joy to shoot. Add a trigger kit from Powder River Precision and you'll have a pistol that the H&K can't touch. In my mind this is the best polymer framed .45 ACP on the market and if you want a compact, that appears to be right around the corner. I am betting that SA's upcoming announcement will be a Compact XDm in .45 ACP.
The first thing I think of when a PX4 is mentioned is wide, but comfortable.
I found the twisting action of the barrel distracting during recoil, but many never notice
I found the twisting action of the barrel distracting during recoil, but many never notice
RightCoastBiased
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I really like my M&P 45. It is a soft shooter, considering its a 45. And its more accurate than I am. I am ordering 50 rounds of 230gr HST and strapping it on my hip for everyday carry.
I have the full size M&P with a 4.5" barrel and full size grip. Though they do make a "mid-size" with a full size grip and a 4" barrel.
I have the full size M&P with a 4.5" barrel and full size grip. Though they do make a "mid-size" with a full size grip and a 4" barrel.
Screwball
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Very good choice.
I looked at the Glock 21 before I bought my .45 PX4. At that time, Glocks were hard to get. My range had the PX4 coming in, and from past recommendations, I put my name on it.
The nice thing about the PX4 is the grip. Yes, the full size Glock has a 13 round magazine, but I assure that most would prefer the Beretta's grip. Going beyond that, the rotating barrel does a great job at dampening recoil.
...plus then you'll be using the same pistol as the troopers in Rainbow SixScrewball said:
bcp280z
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I believe the M&P line to be the softest shooting (less percieved recoil) poly-gun.
Never tried the 45 but when comparing the XDM and M&P .40's for purchase, recoil was alot more noticible in the XD.
Plus it's dammed accurate and American.
Also, don't be turned off by carrying full size, it's possible and can be comfortable.
Never tried the 45 but when comparing the XDM and M&P .40's for purchase, recoil was alot more noticible in the XD.
Plus it's dammed accurate and American.
Also, don't be turned off by carrying full size, it's possible and can be comfortable.
LiveLife
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This is not slow fire from sand bag but front sight flash rapid fire off hand on multiple 1/2 sheet targets - I usually tape 4 targets on the card board and fire one round in each so I have to move the pistol and acquire new target for each shot.GLOOB said:
My usual drill is to shoot at 4 targets as fast as I can at 10-15-20 yards from draw. Once I warm up, I move to double-taps.
AethelstanAegen
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If you're looking for a 4" barrel, I'd highly recommend the XD 45 Compact. I don't find the recoil bad at all. To me, there is not a significant muzzle flip but rather a push back into the hand. IMO, there was greater muzzle flip in my father's Glock 19 (9mm) compared to my XD 45. I've also considered the M&P (they feel quite nice in the hand an have a slightly more refined look than the XD) but the have a smaller magazine capacity (XD compact w/10 rds, w/ extension 13 rds, M&P Compact 8rds, w/extension 10rds). I really expected more magazine capacity in a polymer pistol than the M&P offered (if I'm only going to have 8rds, I might as well carry my 1911 which conceals better anyways). That said, I think you would be quite happy with either the M&P or the XD compact models (which can both use fullsize mags). I don't know much about the XDm but I've personally been very happy with my XD (no malfunctions to date, nice accuracy out of the box, and for me good ergonomics). I'd recommend going to a LGS to try both in your hand and see what fits you best.
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