North american arms super companion

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BHP FAN i am incredible with firearms, i can shoot well with short barrels because it is a matter of keeping the muzzle still until you pull the trigger. i like to line up .22 LR shells on a table and shoot them with my pedersoli rider pistol from 15 feet away. i am pretty sure if i got a brain shot i would be able to get a good clean kill on a target the size of a grapefruit. i will be fitting mine with a rear sight and it will be way easier to aim. however i need a compact .22, i don't want to bring a big 454 Cassul or a 44 Magnum along on my hip like John Wayne because cops drive down that road all the time. i just need a decent pocket sized revolver. i work better with small calibers (it's just my preference) and i grew up shooting the .22. i can tell you one thing is for sure, a .22 magnum that hits the wildcat's brain is more effective than a 44 magnum that hits the ground behind the beast.
 
''a .22 magnum that hits the wildcat's brain is more effective than a 44 magnum that hits the ground behind the beast''...

now that's a fact.I like the NAA because you can slip it in a pocket and always have it with you, when you might not pack that S&W Model 29 or full sized 1911.
 
Oh lord, where to begin?

1. The a 22 doesn't "bounce around" inside a skull/chest cavity. Some movie once said that and everyone took it as gospel.

2. You plan to hit a moving target, bobbing and swaying, with adrenaline coursing through your veins, with a pistol you can't get 4 fingers on, let alone 10, with home-made sights, and a homemade load? Doubtful.

3. If you managed to hit the cougar in the skull it isn't going to penetrate. Look at the ft/lbs here (or lack thereof).

4. You aren't "incredible" with firearms, if you were we would have heard of you. Shooting 22 brass at 3 yards is less than impressive.

"i can shoot well with short barrels because it is a matter of keeping the muzzle still until you pull the trigger"

Well yes, as it is with every firearm ever made. You do realize that while a short bbl may be quicker to sight in with, it is inherently less accurate as your sight picture is less precise than a longer bbl right? A short barrel moves just as much as a longer barrel when taking aim, it's just not as noticeable.

5. Why are you concerned about carrying a pistol that could be seen by police? I hope it isn't because you can't legally carry one where you are, and are hoping to keep it hidden.

6. Your thoughts about protecting your wife are a bit silly. If you truly wanted to protect her you would either not take her hiking in potentially dangerous areas, or carry a larger handgun with more potential stopping power.

Sorry to come off so harshly but there are many issues with some of the things you've mentioned. The NAA mini's are really awesome pieces of work, they are very cool mechanically. Plinking with them is a good time, but I wouldn't rely on one for self defense against anything except a human, which might be able to recognize the fact I have a weapon and choose to call of the attack. I'm not sure what BHP is talking about with regards to not seeing animals when carrying. They can't recognize a small metallic object in your hand as representing danger. The concept of them leaving you alone when CCing is even more ridiculous. I doubt many cougars recognize "printing" when you carry concealed, and choose to leave you alone.

Stay safe, and enjoy your new toy!
 
I think it's more a matter of ''scent'' than the cougar noticing that you're ''printing''. As for how they know you are carrying a gun,I think they might smell it...gun oil and such.But, they do know. That's why when you're hiking, scouting an area you see wildlife, and a week later when you come back to hunt the area, there's no game to be seen. Or, maybe it's a ''vibe'' you put out, or a difference in your movements. Regardless, they do know.As for ''be able to recognize the fact I have a weapon and choose to call of the attack...''the mountain lion knew for sure by the sound of a bullet fired in it's direction, and it chose to leave. Most animals will. ''The concept of them leaving you alone when CCing is even more ridiculous. I doubt many cougars recognize "printing" when you carry concealed, and choose to leave you alone...''They aren't going to debate barrel lengths and such with you when you are shooting.I think a firecracker might have served me as well, in my incident, but I'd rather have a small pistol.
 
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well if this ain't going to cut it should i get something bigger? because i need the gun to be economical, deadly, and hold more than one shot. i guess saving the mini revolver for rattlers squirrels and rabbits would be a wiser choice, but sometimes we let her mom or dad drive home while i walk her down the mountain together, it's a beautiful hike. i am not saying this super companion would be my first pick as far as protection goes, don't get me wrong i would prefer a 357 magnum or a colt Walker, or perhaps a nice 1911 or a glock. but i can't afford those sorts of things. however i would definitely prefer one of these in addition to my bowie knife and balisong over just 2 knives because i can slip it in my jacket pocket and not get weird looks from drivers who glance and see what's on my belt... besides if i miss i might scare the cat away with the loud report of the gun. someone mentioned here that T73f gives a pretty barky report. believe me i would not try to start a fight with a cougar, if i saw one close by being threatening i would fire a round to scare the creature of and let him/her know that i am not pray.
 
That's your best bet, since it's not legal to kill them here in California, anyways. but for about the same price you could pick up a used Taurus .38 snubby.Personally, I'm comfortable with the little .22, since I know I'm not takeing on African lions, and I don't want to harm the cat anyway, unless forced to.
 
your welcome! that was as cheap as i could find them! so cheap i will be getting mine there! i also just got a really good opportunity to make enough money to buy one, on Sunday i went to the trap range to go shoot my Remington rider pistol and shoot one of their shotguns, and a fellow who worked there got really interested in my derringer. so we talked and i brought up that i make black powder guns. he said that lodge needed a replica shotgun to hang over the fireplace and he said he would pay me to build one for them to hang over their fireplace! so i got started and i have been working on it the last few days! also i might be getting some cash for my birthday in 7 days and i will probably have sold them the replica double barrel shotty by then, so i could probably order it really soon! i will probably do a review on youtube once i get it and i will definitely do an update for you guys and see what kind of loads work best in mine. i will talk to the guy at the range and see where i can find Bullseye pistol powder, and i will probably end up ordering a few hundred 30 grain lead bullets as well as a couple tins of percussion caps. also i might be able to bum a few gelatin capsules off my health nut friend to use as shot capsules!
 
did you have them ship to a FFL? I live in michigan so i dont know if they have a paper I need to sign first and mail it to them or if they will just ship to me. i couldnt find much information on thare web site. oh nevermind i didnt catch that you hadent orderd yet. but the web site does say thay ship firearms to FLL's but dosent say anything about BP guns?
 
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black powder NAA "Earl"

Busyhands had an idea. The earl comes with a 22 mag cylinder. What if I pulled the bullet on 22 mag round and replaced it with black powder. It seems the rimfire ignition should be enough to set off the powder. Any thoughts on how much bp I should use?
 
I dont need a permit we just have to sign a paper from seller that says your older than 18 and I only have to do that when I buy online. when I go into a store to buy a bp gun I dont have to fill out any paper work
 
I have great respect for the police, but they're not lawyers, and most seem to know less about gun laws than I do, and I'm no lawyer, either.
 
Pancho said:
Busyhand, I think the NAA cap and ball pistol is cool but I would no sooner depend on it for protection than I would a slingshot. I would consider my NAA "The Earl" in 22 mag a nice companion piece against small vicious raccoons snakes and skunks as for cougars that's a different story even a house cat can put a hurtin on you before you throw it across the room. If they ever make "The Earl" in cap and ball I'll be next in line.
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Here's on for you:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/344/products_id/70874

Apparently, these things exist. Maybe it is a limited run, though.
 
Fluxeii said:
3. If you managed to hit the cougar in the skull it isn't going to penetrate. Look at the ft/lbs here (or lack thereof).
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MCgunner Post #11 & #14 said:
The super companion is fully capable of matching the .22 magnum in these little guns, though....
....I load my SC with 2.0 grains weight of Bullseye from a scoop I made out of an empty .22LR hull. It clocks a 30 grain pill about 1200 fps. This is what I carry. Of course, it shoots clean, too. 1 grain is around 800 fps which is about what I get from a good .22LR 36 grain HP round in my .22 model.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=530875
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I disagree with the statement that it won't penetrate a cougar's skull.
It's not a toy! ;)
 
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