On Remington...

[PapaG]

Last year I sent my main trap gun,a 1975 870 TB with a cracked receiver, to them. They replaced it at wholesale and returned it to me within two weeks. No problems. I'm ready to send my son's 1980 870 in for the same issue.

 

[jmorris]

While I didn’t buy it personally, I was gifted a 700 in 308 that was new a few years ago and it’s a good one. All my others are more than a “few” years old. My ‘80’s XP-100 pistol is one of my most accurate firearms, yes, even compared to the rifles.

 

[otisrush]

I bought a 700 3-4 years ago - SPS Varmint in .243 It was a very good gun. I shot the heck out of it.....ran it very hot. Sold it when barrel was approaching being done.

For a long time I've had a very gut-level feeling that people complaining about how quality has gone downhill over the last few years is a very popular song to sing (as if it's a way for someone to demonstrate their insight re the shooting ecosystem). But Remington seems to catch the brunt of those comments. I wonder if there is objective data to support it. Bankruptcy isn't *necessarily* an indicator of bad quality. Bankruptcy could result from a whole host of possible problems.

 

[Ks5shooter]

Yup...no issues fit and finish is perfect......

 

[jmr40]

Just keep in mind that if 97% of any product produced is good and 3% have issues that is TERRIBLE Quality Control. If you knew that 3% of the airplanes taking off today would crash and 97% would arrive safely would you fly? The airline industry would be grounded in one day.

I had a job once where the accuracy of my work was graded at the end of each month. Anything below 99.97% in a month meant a week off with no pay. The 2nd time it happened I would have been terminated.

 

[P5 Guy]

Rifle on the top was one of two Remingtons I ever owned. M1903A3 made in mid 1943.

 

[danez71]

Just keep in mind that if 97% of any product produced is good and 3% have issues that is TERRIBLE Quality Control. If you knew that 3% of the airplanes taking off today would crash and 97% would arrive safely would you fly? The airline industry would be grounded in one day.

I had a job once where the accuracy of my work was graded at the end of each month. Anything below 99.97% in a month meant a week off with no pay. The 2nd time it happened I would have been terminated.

In perspective though, comparing airplanes crashing to a typical QC complaint is not a fair comparison.

In most semiconductor mfg, anything less than 99.99966% yields is bad. 99.997% would be considered unfathomable.

 

[MarshallDodge]

Quality control went away from firearms companies many years ago. Most of them don't even test fire their guns for accuracy anymore.

They rely on the purchaser to do the QC. It would seem their mode of operation is ship as many as you can, and if the purchaser complains, send them a call tag to fix it.

Edited to clarify test firing for accuracy

 

[unclenunzie]

I bought my RM380 because it had a good reputation, all metal, was mostly a Rohrbaugh design and looks beautiful. I have not been disappointed. It's proof that a good design with good materials can produce a quality product at a reasonable price. I ordered spare parts for it just in case, though I don't expect to actually need them.

I don't have any direct experience with other Remington products. But I think the RM380 is excellent.

 

[Texas10mm]

Quality control went away from firearms companies many years ago. Most of them don't even test fire their guns anymore.

They rely on the purchaser to do the QC. It would seem their mode of operation is ship as many as you can, and if the purchaser complains, send them a call tag to fix it.

Any company that doesn't proof fire a newly built gun is just waiting for a lawsuit.

 

[tws3b2]

Bought my first Remington in 1974. A 700, 30-06. I hunted deer with that gun for 40 years. Never had any problem with it whatsoever. Never owned another deer gun because I never needed another. I still have it today. I guess it's like a old buddy. I'd never let it go. Hate to see Remington in hard times. Remington is one company that helped make this country great.

 

[jhb]

Quality control went away from firearms companies many years ago. Most of them don't even test fire their guns anymore.

They rely on the purchaser to do the QC. It would seem their mode of operation is ship as many as you can, and if the purchaser complains, send them a call tag to fix it.

this cant be true as every brand pistols, revolver and rifle I have bought and I have bought a lot of them from all brands is dirty from being fired. including the remington. not sure who told ya that but dont believe them.

 

[375supermag]

Hi...
This is my experience with a newly purchased Marlin lever action rifle in .44Magnum. The rifle is OK appearance wise...not beautiful, but good enough.
Unfortunately, it keyholes just about every round fired through it as close as 7-10 yards.
Factory ammunition or reloads makes no difference.
Had a gunsmith check the rifle...he says it checks out at .431 as it should but there is some strange looking Rifling about halfway down the bore.
I took it back to the gun dealer(a large local shop) to have it returned. They said Marlin Remington won't deal with them on returns...they will only deal with the owner of the firearm. They said there was nothing more they could do but give me Remington's customer service phone number. Great service...

I took the rifle to my gunsmith today and he said he would be happy to send it back for me and request they make it right.

We will see what happens. I do not have a warm fuzzy feeling about this working out well.

 

[Old Dog]

Quality control went away from firearms companies many years ago. Most of them don't even test fire their guns anymore.

They rely on the purchaser to do the QC. It would seem their mode of operation is ship as many as you can, and if the purchaser complains, send them a call tag to fix it.

Another example of an internet myth. For those of us who've had personal contact with folks in the industry, we know that this is simply -- and completely -- an untruth.

I currently own zero Remington products (well, a few cans and bottles of RemOil and several hundred rounds of green box ammo in various calibers, mostly Core-Lokt rifle ammo), but I for one am sad for every big-name American firearms company (especially those that are historical icons) that fails.

Actually, I have a couple buddies with terrific examples of Marlin lever-actions produced under the Remington umbrella. One .45-70 and one .44 Mag, both are nicely done, reliable and terrific fun to shoot.

 

[RON in PA]

In 2011 I purchased a Remington R1 1911. Excellent finish, accuracy and 100% reliable with my reloads and any factory .45 ACP I've used. Bought a R51 2nd gen mostly out of curiosity. Mags needed to be broken in, but other wise OK. Royal pain to field strip.

 

[Schlegel]

I picked up a used R1 enhanced, zero problems in about 500 rounds. I am quite pleased with it for $600.

 

[MarshallDodge]

this cant be true as every brand pistols, revolver and rifle I have bought and I have bought a lot of them from all brands is dirty from being fired. including the remington. not sure who told ya that but dont believe them.

I corrected my original post and added accuracy, for clarification. Thanks for catching that.

 

[Steve S.]

All companies mature and stagnate over time. All companies are designed to innovate and generate a profit but unfortunately, management and the labor force always seem to go a different direction - if something other than people ran and worked at companies, they would probably fair very well over time.

 

[DaStray]

I`ve had an 870 Express for 6 years or so and haven`t had a problem with it at all. Short stroked it a time or two but that wasn`t the guns fault. It`s actually sitting beside the bed right now with a light and extra shell holder. Bump in the night things, you see...

 

[theotherwaldo]

Never bought a new Remington firearm, probably never will.
I DID finish repairing a Nylon 66 and a Mohawk 10c yesterday, and those are my newest Remington rifles.
Of course, I've got an 870 Express as well, like most folks seem to... .

 

[Chuck R.]

I bought a new M7 SS in .223 this Jan.

No issues, with Nosler 55BTs it's a sub MOA gun for 3rds and just over for 5rds. No issues keeping it on an 8" plate out to 300 yds off a backpack or field tripod. I've got a total of 5 REM rifles, two 700s and three M7s. All shoot pretty well (at least 1 MOA with handloads) and I'v never had an issue with any of them.

 

[.455_Hunter]

My only Remington made after 2000 is a RM380. Got it NIB for $199 from Sportsman's Warehouse. It is perfectly reliable and acceptably accurate for its purpose in life.

 

[Armybrat]

My only Remington made after 2000 is a RM380. Got it NIB for $199 from Sportsman's Warehouse. It is perfectly reliable and acceptably accurate for its purpose in life.

Got mine from CDNN for the same price, plus it came with five magazines. Excellent value little gun.

 

[shootbrownelk]

I have a couple of Remingtons, an early model 700 ADL and a model 660 carbine. No problems with either one after installing Timney triggers/safeties.

 

[SSN Vet]

It seems that most of the newer Remington quality debacles have to do with the Remlin (Marlin) lever guns.

Me thinks there was more to getting these lever guns right than Remington anticipated or realized.

I've also read that Marlin's manufacturing documentation and component specs were piss pore and that quality production relied heavily on tribal knowledge.

They seem to have figured it out now, but sure got one heck of a black eye when they first took over and then moved production.