snowman357
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I have not priced once fured 223 but starline new brass is 24 cent but you have to back order it
Why buy it when it's laying everywhere.
The can guys figured out brass is worth twice or more what aluminum is.... when they start picking up 22 you know things have gotten seriousYes and no. Maybe 5 years ago, before the current silliness... but now that brass is a commodity, the Brass Buzzards are out there!
Where I go shooting, out in the NV desert... I'll see someone come out and blast off a few boxes of ammos through their AR... then leave. Usually about 30 minutes later, dude in a minivan shows up to pick it all up.
You need to do your research, Depends on where you buy it. Most (for a lesser price) will need to have the crimped primers removed.I have been told not to trust buying bulk once fired 223 / 556 NATO brass on line. Has anyone had good experiences with buying it on-line an if so who did you buy from?
I think, “You get what you pay for,” is the first lesson any hobbyist should learn. My wife went first rate with all of her equipment when she took up stained glass window making as a hobby. Her friends who signed up at the same time went cheap. She enjoyed making beautiful art - which we still enjoy and have given as gifts which others enjoy - while they all ended up quitting without finishing a single piece. Quality pays in any hobby.You need to do your research, Depends on where you buy it. Most (for a lesser price) will need to have the crimped primers removed.
Pay a little more from a place like this and it has been done and inspected (costs more but you get what you get)
Diamond K Brass is a great place for OF and new brass. They even sell primed brass. I have been buying from them for several years.I have not priced once fured 223 but starline new brass is 24 cent but you have to back order it
Having cases with crimped primers is a sure fire way of knowing it really is "once fired"Most (for a lesser price) will need to have the crimped primers removed.
Federal sells (or at least did sell) .223 commercial ammunition with either crimped or staked primers. I have run across lots of it with pick up brass. It doesn’t seem as heavily crimped as military brass, but the crimp’s presence does indicate that it is once fired rather than reloaded brass.Other than military brass from a recognized headstamp that still has a crimped primer, there is no such thing as "once fired brass".
Neither you nor the seller know how many times it might have been fired and reloaded. We buy "previously fired" brass and treat it if as if it were "once fired".
I us both US Reloading, which is usually the cheapest, or Everglades ammo, both are out of Florida and both offer free shipping. I always get good brass. Like always look it over good when sorting and processing.I have been told not to trust buying bulk once fired 223 / 556 NATO brass on line. Has anyone had good experiences with buying it on-line an if so who did you buy from?
Lake City Ammunition plant in Independence MO. Manufacturers all the military small arms ammo. They also make .223 for civilian markets Everything coming out of that plant has the military crimp. While the plant itself is owned by the Dept of Defense it is operated by Olin Mills and Winchester. So some Winchester ammo is packaged there as well. The civilian Winchester plant is in East Alton Illinois.When I started loading .223 I had no brass, so I bought "Top Brass" from Midsouth or Midway, can't remember which. They claim it's fully processed (no primers) and 100% ready to load. I went through all the steps anyway, starting with tumbling.
What I found was that the brass had been cleaned, sized, and deprimed. Not sure how they set their sizers up because when I sized it some sized easy and some were a bit harder, although not difficult. It was also supposed to be swaged. Some primers went in, some didn't, and I pretty much ended up swaging it all anyways. And finally it was supposed to be trimmed. I ran every piece through my trimmer and some of it got trimmed, but most were already short enough.
Also it was supposed to be once fired military brass, but it was a mix of .223 and nato cross stamps. Some of it may have even been stamped 5.56. I didn't think the military fired .223 but I could be wrong.
Overall I was happy with it, except for the price. Loading it the first time had me at a cost of about $75/100, which is what I paid (around the same time) for some factory ammo. Overall the quality of brass seemed good, with lots of IMI and LC headstamps. A few pieces had dents but were loadable, and of course a few had creases and I didn't load those.
For the price it cost me to load it the first time, I could have bought factory ammo and had truly known once fired brass, and it would have been all the same headstamp. Assuming I could find factory ammo, this was last year.
chris
They still do and most of that comes off the same line that produces thier military contract ammo out of thier Anoka Minnesota Plant.Federal sells (or at least did sell) .223 commercial ammunition with either crimped or staked primers. I have run across lots of it with pick up brass. It doesn’t seem as heavily crimped as military brass, but the crimp’s presence does indicate that it is once fired rather than reloaded brass.