Avalanche2082
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I am looking to purchase an H&K handgun and was wondering which ones you guys like and why? Thanks
Opinions on H&K's
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Princi
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My favorite of the three that I own is the Expert, but it is in 45ACP. My Elite is in 9mm and seems to think there is a bullseye in the middle of my forehead. The P30 is neat because not just the backstrap is replaceable, but the sides as well.
My brother loves the P7, but I think it is the novelty factor, but perhaps it was because he shot it after shooting 2 rounds of 357 Magnum through my S&W Scandium J-frame. (He then handed the S&W to his son-in-law to shoot; and here I thought he liked his son-in-law). I just never shot the P7 well because of the squeeze not feeling right for the squeeze-cocker. What I do like is that after loading a new magazine, squeezing the cocker releases the slide.
The Expert has one of the finest DA triggers that I've ever shot in SA mode. I shoot the pistol as well as I do my best 1911's.
My brother loves the P7, but I think it is the novelty factor, but perhaps it was because he shot it after shooting 2 rounds of 357 Magnum through my S&W Scandium J-frame. (He then handed the S&W to his son-in-law to shoot; and here I thought he liked his son-in-law). I just never shot the P7 well because of the squeeze not feeling right for the squeeze-cocker. What I do like is that after loading a new magazine, squeezing the cocker releases the slide.
The Expert has one of the finest DA triggers that I've ever shot in SA mode. I shoot the pistol as well as I do my best 1911's.
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Sir Aardvark
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I think that they are neat and reliable, but even more overpriced than the SIG's.
rcellis
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I'm a compact fan - love my P2000SK in 40 S&W.
I've owned two HKs (the P2000SK and a USP) - both exhibited a very high level of build quality, and functioned accurately and reliably... Now, my P2000SK has failed to feed a few rounds of cheap ammo (the crimp wasn't accurate). Even so, I regularly put Winchester White Box target ammo through it with no problems. And I mean NO problems.
I've owned two HKs (the P2000SK and a USP) - both exhibited a very high level of build quality, and functioned accurately and reliably... Now, my P2000SK has failed to feed a few rounds of cheap ammo (the crimp wasn't accurate). Even so, I regularly put Winchester White Box target ammo through it with no problems. And I mean NO problems.
30-06 lover
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I have a USP 45.
Pros:
Extremely reliable
Extremely accurate
Well made
Great trigger
Cons:
Very little aftermarket (holsters are even hard to find)
Bulky gun. I have larger hands, but after a day at the range I am a little worn out.
My best advise is to try and find a range that will let you rent one and see if you like it. If you do, it's an HK, you won't be disappointed with it's reliability and accuracy.
Pros:
Extremely reliable
Extremely accurate
Well made
Great trigger
Cons:
Very little aftermarket (holsters are even hard to find)
Bulky gun. I have larger hands, but after a day at the range I am a little worn out.
My best advise is to try and find a range that will let you rent one and see if you like it. If you do, it's an HK, you won't be disappointed with it's reliability and accuracy.
MyTFAL
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I LOVE my USP .40
I had an HK USP 45c.
Avoid it as you would a STD. Bulky, sucktastic trigger, and overpriced. The charm wore off the first time at the range and left in its place a definite gnawing sensation of "what in the hell was I thinking?"
The P2000 seems to be the answer to that question, but I'm not buying.
Avoid it as you would a STD. Bulky, sucktastic trigger, and overpriced. The charm wore off the first time at the range and left in its place a definite gnawing sensation of "what in the hell was I thinking?"
The P2000 seems to be the answer to that question, but I'm not buying.
thegoodfight
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They are a basically a more expensive, less reliable, not as durable version of a GLOCK. But HKs are probably the second most reliable handgun I've ever shot.
That's my experience.
That's my experience.
XavierBreath
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I don't really consider them to be like a Glock at all, except for the polymer frame.
I'm familiar with the USP and the P7. I've found them to be accurate, durable, and reliable.
Which HK are you considering? There are quite a few, and they are not the same.
I'm familiar with the USP and the P7. I've found them to be accurate, durable, and reliable.
Which HK are you considering? There are quite a few, and they are not the same.
Princi
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I was at Bass Pro Shops shooting one day and there were two large "African-Americans" (I'm so PC) shooting in the next two lanes. They were both shooting H&K's chambered in 40S&W.
I was scared looking at their targets. Who the heck are these guys? I'm ashamed to admit that the thought that they might drug dealers came to mind. I'd never seen anyone shoot as accurately as these two guys were shooting. They were also extremely polite and friendly.
When I left, I asked the range officer if he had noticed how good they were shooting. He said: they better be good - they are air marshals.
So, I figured if H&K were good enough for them, I had to have one. The next week I was shooting my own.
I was scared looking at their targets. Who the heck are these guys? I'm ashamed to admit that the thought that they might drug dealers came to mind. I'd never seen anyone shoot as accurately as these two guys were shooting. They were also extremely polite and friendly.
When I left, I asked the range officer if he had noticed how good they were shooting. He said: they better be good - they are air marshals.
So, I figured if H&K were good enough for them, I had to have one. The next week I was shooting my own.
boomstik45
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Gosh, I'd hate to be mistaken for a drug dealer. Does that happen to all large african-americans who can shoot decently?
Wait, I didn't say that right. I meant BLACK american, because my butt has never been to africa, wasn't born there, and isn't trying to go there either. Too many things that will come after you with spear and loin cloth, AK and machete....and everything else tries to eat you. No thanks.
Ok, back on topic. I guess I should shed a few of these 300 pounds and wear my badge on my belt. Oh, did I mention I'm law enforcement? Yeah, unfortunately some of us ARE drug dealers....and some of us can't shoot worth a crap.....
Wait, I didn't say that right. I meant BLACK american, because my butt has never been to africa, wasn't born there, and isn't trying to go there either. Too many things that will come after you with spear and loin cloth, AK and machete....and everything else tries to eat you. No thanks.
Ok, back on topic. I guess I should shed a few of these 300 pounds and wear my badge on my belt. Oh, did I mention I'm law enforcement? Yeah, unfortunately some of us ARE drug dealers....and some of us can't shoot worth a crap.....
boomstik45
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Forgot to add: the USP series is great. The Experts have better triggers. The new HK45 feels great....but it has a longer grip and lower capacity (try explaining that one, you crazy Germans).
And I'd rank them AHEAD of Glocks in the durability department. HK doesn't take a 9mm and then try to cram a .40 and .357 into it. Not only that, but they make their guns to fire + p ammo. Does glock? Don't think so. Better chamber support, too. Nothing wrong with glock, but not on the same level as HK. Except for one thing: the magazine springs. That would be HK's one serious downfall. I don't know how they missed that one.
And I'd rank them AHEAD of Glocks in the durability department. HK doesn't take a 9mm and then try to cram a .40 and .357 into it. Not only that, but they make their guns to fire + p ammo. Does glock? Don't think so. Better chamber support, too. Nothing wrong with glock, but not on the same level as HK. Except for one thing: the magazine springs. That would be HK's one serious downfall. I don't know how they missed that one.
Scratchshooter40
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H&k Usp40
I'd vote for the H&K USP40, largely because I own and shoot one. Great recoil management, accuracy, and function. Dead reliable. Worth the money any time.
I'd vote for the H&K USP40, largely because I own and shoot one. Great recoil management, accuracy, and function. Dead reliable. Worth the money any time.
usp9
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I'm a HK fan primarily because the guns they produce work better, at a higher reliability rate than others. Call it price or value, but I think you get your moneys worth. The innovation HK brings is noteworthy too.
I have a P7, one of the great guns of the modern era. My CCW is a P2000sk, which I consider one of the best compact pistols made. It has no flaws. My USP Elite is by far my most accurate pistol. I didn't realize I could still shoot pretty well until I bought this gun (post aging eyes, bifocals and all that). My USPc is my range gun. Go ahead, shoot the hell out of it... it can take it. A rock solid pistol if ever there was one. On my short list of wants are the P30 and HK45. Some day soon.
And the final note, yes, I've called HK customer service. They responded, I paid, they sent my parts. Took three or four days total. I'm happy.
No pics in this whole thread...hmmmm,
If H&K pistols are less reliable and less durable than Glock pistols, then how come H&K .40 caliber pistols don't blow up anywhere nears as often as Glock .40 caliber pistols?
They both have the polygonal rifling that coupled with lead bullet reloads, too deep bullet seating, and double charges of powder, cause the Glock pistols to discomboobulate,,,,,,
I shoot a bunch of Glocks and One H&K.
The H&K is way more accurate than any of the Glocks.
Is it because it is a target version of the USP or because it is in .45 acp and My Glocks are all 9mm?
Who Knows.
Hmmmm, two big black guys shooting .40 caliber H&K pistols,,,,somehow I can't picture drug dealer,,I picture LEOs checking out some new pistols.
Pic for USP9
They both have the polygonal rifling that coupled with lead bullet reloads, too deep bullet seating, and double charges of powder, cause the Glock pistols to discomboobulate,,,,,,
I shoot a bunch of Glocks and One H&K.
The H&K is way more accurate than any of the Glocks.
Is it because it is a target version of the USP or because it is in .45 acp and My Glocks are all 9mm?
Who Knows.
Hmmmm, two big black guys shooting .40 caliber H&K pistols,,,,somehow I can't picture drug dealer,,I picture LEOs checking out some new pistols.
Pic for USP9
PX15
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JMOFartO:
I'm new to the HK pistol owners family, but I've had over 50 years of firearms ownership in which to make an opinion on the HK P7 pistol, and that opinion is that it is the HK P7 is inherently most accurate pistol I've ever owned or shot.
I also have a 9mm Walther PPS and while the PPS is lighter than the HK P7 I "prefer" to cc the P7.
It seems the only folks who appreciate the HK P7 series of "squeezecockers" are those who have actually shot one..
Just personal opinion/YMMV
Best Wishes,
Jesse
I'm new to the HK pistol owners family, but I've had over 50 years of firearms ownership in which to make an opinion on the HK P7 pistol, and that opinion is that it is the HK P7 is inherently most accurate pistol I've ever owned or shot.
I also have a 9mm Walther PPS and while the PPS is lighter than the HK P7 I "prefer" to cc the P7.
It seems the only folks who appreciate the HK P7 series of "squeezecockers" are those who have actually shot one..
Just personal opinion/YMMV
Best Wishes,
Jesse
hags
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I'm partial to the USP 9mm.
However......
Which part of the trigger did you like? The overly long pull or all the mush?
Yes, total reliability has it's price, it's called "Glock", and for about $300 less.
Are you sure about your facts, you can in fact fire +P ammo from a Glock.
I also dislike the barrel O-ring on some models and the dual recoil spring, more things to go wrong and replace, if you can.
The USP was built for/around the .40 S&W, the USP40 s that I've shot have some of the worst muzzle flip and recovery from shot to shot that I've experienced. The triggers, at least on the USPs are horrible, long, mushy and "where's the break point" bad.
However......
Which part of the trigger did you like? The overly long pull or all the mush?
Yes, total reliability has it's price, it's called "Glock", and for about $300 less.
Are you sure about your facts, you can in fact fire +P ammo from a Glock.
I also dislike the barrel O-ring on some models and the dual recoil spring, more things to go wrong and replace, if you can.
The USP was built for/around the .40 S&W, the USP40 s that I've shot have some of the worst muzzle flip and recovery from shot to shot that I've experienced. The triggers, at least on the USPs are horrible, long, mushy and "where's the break point" bad.
I would be comfortable with outfitting an Army with the HK USP line. I have full faith in them. The only reason I don't own a USP is because the grip does not fit me. I use a G19 as my primary and the grip fits me fine. Could never get use to the USPs feel. The G19 is the only Glock I like. The HK line is superior. Even more superior than Sig Sauer (1st love). Just my opinion.
My favorite pistol is the HK P7. Got a B grade right after I recieved my custom 1911. The custom 1911 takes a back seat to the P7. I need more magazines. Anyone know where I can get some PSP magazines? Bueller?
My favorite pistol is the HK P7. Got a B grade right after I recieved my custom 1911. The custom 1911 takes a back seat to the P7. I need more magazines. Anyone know where I can get some PSP magazines? Bueller?
hags
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How is HK superior to Glock? The Entire line?
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