Pocket holster for cargo pockets

wayneinFL said:
The problems I have with the cargo pockets:

They're far away.
You can't casually reach into one.
It's weight swinging around even further from your hip.
There's a flap you have to undo.

What's wrong with carrying the gun in a front pocket like any other pants? You have two additional pockets you can store stuff in. Why not relocate the phone, keys, wallet, or money clip into a cargo pocket?
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The pockets on mine are only an arms length away and the flaps are closed with velcro so they're easy to open. This is not a mode of carry I would use very frequently at all. But it is convenient for a quick run to the store when I don't want to strap up or shift stuff around in my pockets. It is nice and easy for those times I might not bother to carry for a quick trip. I am not crazy about pocket carry at all. Front pocket carry I find uncomfortable in a car but the cargo pocket is not. I just want the gun not to shift position so easily in that big pocket.

Like I said it isn't something I would do very often so the fact that some of the holsters suggested are relatively inexpensive is a big plus.
 
I'd say that getting a good fit would be problematic...my cargo pocket adorned trousers have pretty bit pockets. The idea is of course to allow a clean draw movement, leaving the holster in the pocket and allowing a firing grip on the gun before it begins to move...difficult I'd say. YMMv Rod
 
Lots of good points to consider and lots of good suggestions. I will have to give it some thought. As I said this would be a pretty infrequent mode of carry.
 
This is my set up. I will stipulate that it is crude. I have other pocket holsters, but this is the one I use most (and it wasn't designed for a revolver, I just modified it.)
I wear Columbia cotton cargo shorts 10 months out of the year, FWIW. This goes into my dominant RH front pocket - not the cargo pocket.
This keeps my Colt Agent upright in my pocket unbelievably well.
 

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Alabama Holster Co. makes a deep concealment one that is too big for regular pockets but probably fine in cargo pants/shorts.
 
Shodan said:
I applaud you for recognizing that you need a quality pocket holster. I still question the ability to draw the gun with any reasonable speed.

Out of curiosity, what guns would you carry?
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What you lose in "speed" IMHO you more than makeup for in "readiness" -- can have your hand in the pocket, on the pistol o=with it on its way out well ahead of potential threats getting close without no one the wiser.. No threat, no problem. Carrying concealed pretty much means you've conceded "quick draw" to the potential aggressor.
 
wally said:
What you lose in "speed" IMHO you more than makeup for in "readiness" -- can have your hand in the pocket, on the pistol o=with it on its way out well ahead of potential threats getting close without no one the wiser.. No threat, no problem. Carrying concealed pretty much means you've conceded "quick draw" to the potential aggressor.
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I'd agree with you 100% ... if we were talking about typical pocket carry. But carrying in a cargo pocket negates all of the advantages of pocket carry.
 
Shodan said:
I applaud you for recognizing that you need a quality pocket holster. I still question the ability to draw the gun with any reasonable speed.

Out of curiosity, what guns would you carry?
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I completely recognize that it isn't ideal and not something I will do very often. The gun to be carried this way is a Taurus 605 2 inch.
 
I am new on this forum but am a member on another forum where we make "things". And so much for quality but it is cheap. I started with a cheap little nylon holster from Walmart (Gun Mate).Wrapped it in plastic from a Folgers coffee container, then wrapped it in duct tape. It is big enough now to have the gun slide out when the gun is pulled out with its grips. I do need to rewrap it now and then and cut off the straps but hey it works. A little practice and I'm probably as fast as you guys. Plus you even get a choice of colors.
 

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I like the GunMate holster by itself but it tended to "flop" over with a snub nose. It was top heavy and that barrel was pointing at me. So it became the nucleus of a pocket holster. They are well padded too.
 
Kleanbore said:
That can also get you shot---in self defense.
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How so? Nobody can see it if it is still in your pocket, covered by your hand. It also does work for "cargo pockets" as nobody can tell if you are reaching for a phone, keys, or whatever, until it is time to actually produce the weapon.
 
wally said:
Nobody can see it if it is still in your pocket, covered by your hand.
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Do you think that is important?

A person who has a basis for a reasonable belief that someone had, or was trying to access, a weapon could address the Ability part of the A, O, J, P formula in a legal defense of self defense. He not need not see a weapon..

wally said:
nobody can tell if you are reaching for a phone, keys, or whatever, until it is time to actually produce the weapon.
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Why would that matter?

People reaching for wallets and handkerchiefs have been gunned down.

The shooter may be deemed justified. That is not uncommon.

But that doesn't really matter, does it?

Take day and learn some important things:

 
I didn't mean to stir up a debate on self defense tactics. I was just looking for a holster that would fill a cargo pocket enough to stabilize a gun carried there. I acknowledge the disadvantages of such carry. And I understand tne cautions related to it. As I said, it will be an infrequent mode of carry. I thank those who provided holster suggestions.
 
Bill_in_TR said:
I didn't mean to stir up a debate on self defense tactics. I was just looking for a holster that would fill a cargo pocket enough to stabilize a gun carried there. I acknowledge the disadvantages of such carry. And I understand tne cautions related to it. As I said, it will be an infrequent mode of carry. I thank those who provided holster suggestions.
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Stay out of this! ;) :)
 
Kleanbore said:
Do you think that is important?

A person who has a basis for a reasonable belief that someone had, or was trying to access, a weapon could address the Ability part of the A, O, J, P formula in a legal defense of self defense. He not need not see a weapon..


Why would that matter?

People reaching for wallets and handkerchiefs have been gunned down.

The shooter may be deemed justified. That is not uncommon.

But that doesn't really matter, does it?

Take day and learn some important things:

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So I can shoot anyone wearing a hoodie with a Covid mask and their hand in a pocket and maybe deemed justified? Not around here.

The people reaching for things in their pockets who get shot are being confronted by police, I wouldn't be concerned about maybe needing to draw if police were on scene so I wouldn't be getting anything out of a pocket but my car keys, do you worry about being shot every time you get your keys or cellphone out of a packet?

First rule of the gun fight is have a gun. Pocket carry with the right gun, holster, and pocket works for me to carry 100% of the time except when going into places where carry would be illegal. Bottom line, when you lift your cover garment everyone knows your are armed, with my hand just coming out of my pocket nobody can "know", at this point our draw times are about equal but you have committed and disclosed you are armed, while I have not.

I've said my piece.
 
wally said:
So I can shoot anyone wearing a hoodie with a Covid mask and their hand in a pocket and maybe deemed justified? Not around here.
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Don't be ridiculous!
wally said:
The people reaching for things in their pockets who get shot are being confronted by police,
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What are you talking about?

A defender need not see a delay weapon to have a reasonable belief that someone is armed with one. He need not wait to see one to use deadly force. That's a basic tenet of use of force law.
 
I had the idea that left hand cargo pocket carry would be helpful to a driver in the case of a sudden entry into the car by an unwanted parson. That has happened.

I tried several holsters for my LCP Max. None worked well at staying in the pocket and allowing the gun to come out freely.

In addition, I ould not draw from it while standing, and it banged on my knee while I was walking. I gave up.
 
No 2 pair of my pants have exactly the same size pockets. I have several "custom" made holsters that I made myself.
 
Kleanbore said:
I had the idea that left hand cargo pocket carry would be helpful to a driver in the case of a sudden entry into the car by an unwanted parson. That has happened.

I tried several holsters for my LCP Max. None worked well at staying in the pocket and allowing the gun to come out freely.

In addition, I ould not draw from it while standing, and it banged on my knee while I was walking. I gave up.
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You really should try a Alabama Front Pocket holster. I swear it's the best pocket holster out there.

My Alabama front pocket holster has a thumb release that you use to push the holster off while it's still in your pocket. That allows you to "pre-draw" or partially draw your gun while it's still in your pocket.

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Leave the rear most button buttoned on your cargo pocket, the hooked portion of this holster grabs the pocket.
Transfer the holster from your cargo pocket to your front pocket when exiting the vehicle.
 
Good reading. First , didn't know anyone used those pockets for anything. Second any more weight than a set of keys and they fall down to my knees.
 
drobs said:
My Alabama front pocket holster has a thumb release that you use to push the holster off while it's still in your pocket. That allows you to "pre-draw" or partially draw your gun while it's still in your pocket.
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one of the ones that I tried was like that.
drobs said:
Transfer the holster from your cargo pocket to your front pocket when exiting the vehicle.
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Good idea. Never occurred to me.
 
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