Poll - if given the choice, would you take a round of .223 or .45?

[C-grunt]

I have seen a few people shot by 5.56 and have never seen a .22 caliber exit wound. If your unlucky enough for it to hit bone, then it gets really ugly.

 

[C-grunt]

Theres a reason why SWAT teams all over the US went from sub guns to ARs. A light wieght .223 at close range is very effective.

 

[Sistema1927]

I'm not playing. IBTL.

 

[glockman19]

I prefer not to be shot by either. Both will kill @ 25 yards.

Next stupid question:
"Where would you rather be shot with any caliber in the head of in the foot?"

 

[DMK]

Hmm, 55gr projectile at 3000fps or a 230gr at 900fps?

I give the rifle bullet a little more respect than a pistol round. Of course, shot placement is always the key, regardless of the point spread.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

Would you rather get poked in the eye, or punched in the face?

 

[Roccobro]

I'm still undecided....

Justin

 

[66912]

I took a .45 through my lower right back and it went clean through my lower right front. Adrenaline aside, I never lost conciousness or my cool and made it through the whole nasty experience alive. Thank god this individual could not afford anything but target/ ball ammunition.

 

[Mr White]

If I couldn't get to my carry gun and fight back, I'd consider groveling.

 

[66912]

Groveling was and never will be an option. Either fight to the end with what you've got or try to break Steve Prefontane's record for the 400M!

 

[a1huntingsupply]

if given the choice, would you take a round of .223 or .45? :banghead:

Hmm, 55gr projectile at 3000fps or a 230gr at 900fps?

I give the rifle bullet a little more respect than a pistol round.

I agree .... the .223 will do the most damage.

 

[rantingredneck]

If I had a choice, neither. If it's one or the other, I'd prefer the pistol to the rifle.

 

[XD Fan]

I would prefer neither if it is all the same to you folks.

 

[ctdonath]

.45ACP will dig a wide, long hole.
.223 will blow things apart.

Seen the autopsy photos.
There's a reason rifles are rifles, pistols are pistols, and a pistol is the tool to fight your way back to the rifle you shouldn't have left behind.


I understand the premise of the question: distasteful, but forces people to think about terminal ballistics in a different way. Easy to banter about one vs. another in the abstract; quite another to imagine being on the receiving end.

The Way of the Samurai is found in death. Meditation on inevitable death should be performed daily. Every day, when one's body and mind are at peace, one should meditate upon being ripped apart by arrows, rifles, spears, and swords, being carried away by surging waves, being thrown into the midst of a great fire, being struck by lightning, being shaken to death by a great earthquake, falling from thousand-foot cliffs, dying of disease or committing seppuku at the death of one's master. And every day, without fail, one should consider himself as dead. This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai.
- Hagakuri (ancient text on the Samurai way)

 

[MT GUNNY]

After reading the question I thought, after weighing all the posibilities,
I picked the 45. mainly cuz if it is a good placed shot I wouldnt suffer to long,
second if it was poorly placed maybe the docs could fix one wound and save me
As for the 5.56 a poor shot would prolly fragment off a bone and cause several wounds within body, less likely to be repaired, more suffering then death.

I now question the very calliber I carry 45.?

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

You have to be a fool to take a 5.56 round instead of a .45 acp. I assume you did not include whether hollow point or ball. I conducted a very unscientific experiment with a 3/4 full sandbag tied to a horizontal steel pole and let it hang 2 feet. I shot 7 rounds of ball ammunition .45 acp from 15 feet away into the sand bag. Three went through and four did not. The sand bag only rocked back at the most 2 inches during the seven rounds being emptied. I spaced the rounds 7 to 10 seconds apart. No violent load dumping or knock back noted. I will take the .45s please.

 

[meef]

Baron:

Purely hypothetical situation. If you had to take a hit from 25 yards from either a .223 or .45, which would you rather?

Purely hypothetical situation. If you had to be beaten into a bloody, mangled pulp by either Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell, which would you rather?



geez.........

 

[operator114]

Baron,

I think your post has the potential of being vastly misunderstood, because my initial reaction was call you a nut job for asking such a silly question.

Anyway, if in some bizzarro combat reality, if you could choose what you were going to get hit with, and not being shot at all was not an option, I would choose the .45 ACP.

Any rifle cartridge (not including the .22 LR), is vastly more powerful than a pistol cartridge.

 

[MT GUNNY]

Meef

Thats funny , either way its gona hurt

 

[Baron]

Thanks to all who replied constructively - some excellent insights.

For those of you who wish not to think in this very personal way about what you REALLY believe in terms of terminal ballistics, please don't bother posting to that effect - it only amounts to trolling.

To futher clarify, the reason I suggested we think in terms of ourselves is not to be morbid or somehow imply that one could find oneself in a situation in which one could chose a caliber with which to be shot; instead, while we all have well- and ill-founded conceptions of what certain rounds are capable of, I believe thinking about being on the receiving end forces us to be very realistic.

As before, many thanks to those of you who have participated in this exercise - keep it up!

 

[brerrabbit]

How about you take your choice of either while I log the results?

I just as soon would not get shot with anything more lethal than spitwad, and that is up to debate.

 

[XD Fan]

For those of you who wish not to think in this very personal way about what you REALLY believe in terms of terminal ballistics, please don't bother posting to that effect - it only amounts to trolling.

Say what?

 

[Sav .250]

" No head shots." Glad you threw that in.

 

[Correia]

For those 30 people who posted that they would rather be hit with the .223, I would really suggest you guys quit believing everything you read on the internet, and go look at some autopsy photos of what .223 does to people at that range.

I spent 6 hours in a classroom last week taking a wound ballistics class, looking at hundreds of photos of people who had been shot in every way you can think of, with just about every type of round.

I would much rather get shot with the handgun.

 

[berettashotgun]

I'd pick the 22, Everyone knows a 45 will vaporize a softball sized area on a human.