Quebec Tories rebuff pleas by police, women to keep gun registry

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Quebec Tories rebuff pleas by police, women to keep gun registry
http://www.news1130.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n053127A

By: JIM BROWN

OTTAWA (CP) - Montreal police, women's groups and gun-control advocates, backed by the Bloc Quebecois, are calling on the Conservative government to reverse course and maintain the federal long-gun registry.

But Tory cabinet ministers and backbenchers from Quebec rebuffed the appeal Wednesday, insisting the registry is a waste of money and isn't effective in fighting crime.

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, acting in the wake of a critical report by Auditor General Sheila Fraser, has announced a series of fee waivers and amnesties for rifle and shotgun owners as a prelude to abolishing the registry.

The program has been plagued by cost overruns, and critics say its computerized files are riddled with errors.

But Yves Francoeur, president of the union representing Montreal police officers, said the registry remains a useful tool.

For example, he told a news conference, offices routinely check it when responding to a domestic violence call to see whether anybody at the address is listed as a firearms owner.

It's true there are some errors in the computer files, Francoeur said. "But it's better for a police officer to work with incomplete and imperfect information than with no information at all."

Serge Menard, the Bloc justice critic, said he is "scandalized" like everyone else at the cost of the registry, which ballooned to nearly $1 billion over its first decade of operation.

He has gone so far as to demand a public inquiry into how the former Liberal government let spending get out of hand in the program's early years.

But that's no reason to kill the registry now that management practices have improved, said Menard.

He pointed to federal statistics that show a long-term decline in gun deaths and other firearms-related crime and concluded: "I don't know how you can say the registry isn't working now."

Catherine Bergeron, whose sister was one of the female students gunned down in the infamous Ecole Polytechnique massacre, also voiced support for the program.

"I find it incredible this debate still persists," she said. "Possessing a gun is a privilege, not a right."

Gun control has long been a popular issue in Quebec, where Prime Minister Stephen Harper hopes to make further inroads in the next election in his quest to secure a majority government.

But Public Works Minister Michael Fortier insisted Wednesday that Quebecers are onside with the Tory decision to get rid of the long-gun registry.

"I speak to all kinds of people in Montreal," Fortier said outside a party caucus meeting.

"People understand very well what we've done. .?.?. People realize a colossal sum was invested in a program that didn't work."

Labour Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn said that, as a hunter, he supports the move toward abolition.

Similar sentiments came from backbencher Sylvie Boucher, who said that in her riding of Beauport-Limoilou, near Quebec City, "all the hunters are happy. They agree with us."
 
Cool.

The less we let our hired guns and ignorant soccer moms decide how our countries are run, the better.
 
"But it's better for a police officer to work with incomplete and imperfect information than with no information at all."

That's BRILLIANT!

Yep, I'd much rather the policeman coming to my house be misinformed than have no prejudices as to my character or possesions.

Some people's kids .... shheeeese
 
But Yves Francoeur, president of the union representing Montreal police officers, said the registry remains a useful tool.

For example, he told a news conference, offices routinely check it when responding to a domestic violence call to see whether anybody at the address is listed as a firearms owner.
That's a pretty stupid perspective. Cops should, and do, exercise caution anyway, whether the registry indicates a gun is on the premises or not.
 
"But it's better for a police officer to work with incomplete and imperfect information than with no information at all."
That's BRILLIANT!

Yep, I'd much rather the policeman coming to my house be misinformed than have no prejudices as to my character or possesions.
I know. I can just see their headlines now...

Grandmother shot 46 times in mistaken-identity no-knock raid
Police blame inaccurate registry data that indicated she had a stockpile of guns

An 82 year old grandmother was shot and killed today when police raided her humble home. Due to inaccurate registry data, she was catalogued as having a stockpile of guns in her home, so police were taking every precaution available to protect themselves and other innocent lives. Apparently, when the police broke down her front door during the no-knock raid, the grandmother was in the kitchen preparing dinner and dropped the pot of stew she was holding out of fright according to the report. "The sound was loud, just like one of those AK things." said an officer that was there. "When that happened, we just knew she was shooting at us, and we didn't know with what or how many more guns she might have, so we returned fire." Film at 11:00.
 
But Yves Francoeur, president of the union representing Montreal police officers, said the registry remains a useful tool.

For example, he told a news conference, offices routinely check it when responding to a domestic violence call to see whether anybody at the address is listed as a firearms owner
So does this mean that officers are going to be "less cautious" when going to an address of a registered gun owner? That some officers may get a false sense of security going to these addresses? Or will being on the "legal list" mean SWAT teams for every housecall "just in case"?

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"I find it incredible this debate still persists," she said. "Possessing a gun is a privilege, not a right."
This statement explains a significant difference between US and our neighbors to the north. Too bad for you, eh? :(
 
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