Quebec vows to create its own long-gun registry despite Supreme Court ruling

[Midwest]

Quebec vows to create its own long-gun registry despite Supreme Court ruling


At a cost of some $30 Million, the Quebec Government plans to implement their own long gun registry in that Province in defiance of the Canadian Government. While data was destroyed in 2012 in other Provinces when Canada officially ended it's long gun registry. Quebec went to court to keep the records.


In a 5-4 decision, it was ruled by the courts that Quebec has no right to that data and that the destruction of the gun registry was lawful. Quebec's argument was that since the registry was a joint effort by Quebec and the Canadian government. It had a right to the information.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/que...gistry-despite-supreme-court-ruling-1.3011843


"The premier has taken steps to put in place a Quebec gun registry with or without the federal gun registry data. There will be a Quebec registry," said Lise Thériault, Quebec's public security minister.

In a split 5-4 decision, the top court found the federal government’s law requiring the destruction of gun certificate information is lawful under the Constitution, and the province of Quebec has no right to the data."
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[Last Knight]

You can take the French out of France, but you can't take the France out of the French...

 

[SDC]

Don't hold your breath; Quebec can't afford to pay for doctors and teachers (they are a perennial "have-not" province, and receive "equalization" payments from the rest of Canada to help them pay for everything), so where are they going to get the money to pay for a $250 million dollar registry?

 

[oneounceload]

So what are they afraid of? Seems to be mostly an unknown boogie-man unsupported by facts...............sounds a lot like some certain states in this country.

 

[Midwest]

Just an interesting tidbit regarding Quebec's decision, the brother of the Polytechnique victim is opposed to the proposed Quebec gun registry!

He doesn't blame the gun, but the sick individual that took his brother's life. In addition he is tired of gun owners being treated like criminals and that his family has a long history of gun ownership!

(For those that are unware
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/École_Polytechnique_massacre)

Brother of Polytechnique victim opposed to Quebec gun registry

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...chnique-victim-opposed-to-quebec-gun-registry



“The registry is useless,” Colgan said. “There is already a system of gun permits in Canada, and all police services have access to it. … To have another system in order to register serial numbers is just a waste of public funds.”

Whether guns are registered or not, criminals won’t respect the law. That’s why they’re criminals. — Claude Colgan, director of the Quebec branch of the National Firearms Association gun owners lobby group

Quebec and Canada has already paid enough for the failed federal long-gun registry, he said.

“Whether guns are registered or not, criminals won’t respect the law. That’s why they’re criminals.”
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[Ryanxia]

Hopefully the folks in Quebec will make their opposition known to this by contacting their representatives. That is if they have a democratic system, I honestly have no idea about the politics of Canada.

 

[dogrunner]

Look at the upside. Bloomberg now has an defined destination!

 

[morcey2]

Look at the upside. Bloomberg now has an defined destination!

I thought he already did. Now Hell and Quebec are going to have to fight over him.

 

[rodregier]

I would have estimated more like $C300 million for a "from-scratch" Quebec registry.

A registry seems to be almost a religious tenet for Quebec politicians. May have to do with more of the mass-shootings happening in Quebec compared to the other provinces. Must be something in the water. Ironically the 3 most recent ones in Quebec that occur to me were performed with lawfully-owned firearms. Does beg the question how a registry would have changed the initial outcome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_University_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson_College_shooting

 

[JSH1]

Quebec isn't creating their own registry despite the Supreme Court ruling. They are creating their own registry because of the Supreme Court ruling.

The Supreme Court ruled that Quebec can't keep the Federal registry so they will have to recreate it on their own. The Supreme Court didn't change anything meaningful, all it does is require Quebec to waste money recreating what already exists.

 

[rodregier]

Indeed, the SCC ruling was about access to the federally-collected registration data, not about whether Quebec could set up their own registry.

 

[Sunray]

Quebec has no jurisdiction to create an such registry.
"...they are a perennial "have-not" province..." No they aren't. They just whine about it. More money has gone there from our Feds than any other Province.
"...May have to do with..." Nope. Strictly politics.
Bloomberg speak French Canadian(it's not the same as the Parisian French spoken in France)? If he doesn't the Traitors and Socialists don't want him.

 

[Midwest]

For our Canadian friends.

Is Canadian anti-gunner Wendy Cukier still going around making anti-gun lectures and speeches these days? I wonder if Quebec is going to send her on a lecture tour around the province and if Bloomberg will be involved behind the scenes.

(For those that don't know. Wendy could be considered the Canadian equivalent of Bloomberg. She is or was a member of the Coalition For Gun Control and was prominent in Canadian gun control in the 1990's...if I recall correctly)

I'd thought I would that it is alleged that she has a ATC-3 carry permit.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/canada/1525395-join-operation-sheepdog-operation-sheepdog-april.html
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[Carl N. Brown]

"... Does beg the question how a registry would have changed the initial outcome. ..."

It would not. But calling for gun control makes it look like the politicians have an answer. When they don't.

 

[Colonel]

Once the registration database is created, "uncreating" it is about like trying to delete those pics of yourself huffing Jenkem on Facebook.

Once they're out in the wild, they're out in the wild for good.

It's like trying to stuff toothpaste back into the tube. How does one unboil an egg?

 

[squarepants33889]

Ryanxia, did you really just state you have no idea whether or not the gigantic land mass ATTACHED to your homeland is a democracy?!?!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not as well versed in international politics as I probably should be, but c'mon. We all live in very close proximity to each other. Information is our ally.
We are not that different than you!
Or, I am just saying that to throw you off your guard while we assemble our communist dogsled teams to cross the border on an all out frontal assault!

 

[armoredman]

"Mush, tovarisch!"

I see lots of Canucks down here during the winter...they like Arizona winters for some reason. I've never seen a Canadian freak out over an open carried firearm, just vacationers from New York, New Jersey and California. And last time I checked Canada is a free country with a democratically elected representative government.

 

[TimSr]

I guess every country has a few states or provinces they wish would seceed.

 

[dogrunner]

Hell, we got counties in Florida we keep hopin' WILL!

 

[rodregier]

The Canucks who visit AZ and are freaked out by open carry probably just don't return

A lot of Wendy's funding is from the public trough. Her org still has a web page, a Facebook presence and a Twitter account. I'm intentionally omitting any links. Her federal funding disappeared with the last regime change. She still seems to get money from medical and women's shelter orgs who haven't grasped that its a violence issue, not an implement issue.