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the hard way it seems ;)

Let me tell you that they are people that don't hate the USA, and that are not envious either !

I, as many foreign gun owners, joined the NRA in support of your RKBA..

I whish more american did or will do the same when it's needed ! (i know US citizen members of Pro Tell for example..)
 
Fact is, there will always be firearms in America. Yes, our new socialist prez and his socialist Congress might impose Assault Rifle restrictions, but there will always be guns.

I personally am glad so many Americans are buying up ARs, etc. It sends a clear message to Congress. The firearms restrictions during the Klintoon administration were part of the reason the Republicans won so big.

Then Al Bore lost his presidential bid because he said no American home has any business owning a 9mm.

Politicians are whores. They blow whichever way the wind goes. And if they think Americans love guns, they'll vote accordingly.
 
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Hi Rimmer,

good outside-the-box-thinking question!

An (average) Jerry´s answer: "Oh my God, you know, it was guns that started the world wars....and the terrorism (not the most prominent one nowadays, but our homegrown left-wing Red Army Fraction). Guns kill people! Anyone who wants a gun is a person seeking out to do a massacre. Those US-psychos stacking ammo and guns ...good to have an ocean between them and us peaceloving people. (Please feel free to translate "people" to " sissies") ."

No kidding...the vast majority thinks exactly that.

They castrated their minds with left-wing political correctness...and if I may add many guys act as if they were castrated in other ways too :D.

They trust any grown person to race a Ferrari down the highway at 300 km/h...but dont trust the same person to be able to restrict his inborn bloodlust. Ya know, we are bad to the bone. Hitler, the Kaiser and all that. Something genetic is wrong with us.

Ah, did I mention: About 20 times a week I get fits from having to put up with this dumb sissy-majority. Unable to take their heads out of their rear-end and use them for thinking instead of butt-plugging. :banghead:

Carsten
 
I think that it is just outstanding that folks from another country would join the NRA in support of our RKBA. I can't
thank you enough. I wish I could get more of my countrymen to do the same. God Bless.
 
I went to school for a year in Beijing. Being twice the size of the locals I did not fear for my safety but sometimes the long late night walks home had me pondering the firearm situation there. The only people who had firearms were the criminals... Most police and security personnel were only issued with batons! ***...

NOTE* A criminal in China is a much harder soul that a criminal in the U.S. If you're caught breaking the law in the U.S. you go to a hotel... In China, you disappear-

Just proves the point that a well armed populace discourages crime- Them Chinese gang bangers are super cocky, they know they have the edge!

My 1911 keeps me warm
 
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1911Tuner, I respect your point of view, and you personal practices and beliefs are indeed nobody's business.
That said, even if our (non-US members) opinions are not relevant, obviously Rimmer is interested in them.
If we hated you, what would we be doing joining THR ? (You might check my reply to the "Why I love America" thread)

I confess that I , for one, AM a bit envious, though : Like the other guy said, you still have gun rights, instead of the hard to obtain and very limited privileges we have to settle for.

Just when it became publicly known that Belgian gun laws were to become much much more restrictive, about a year ago, there was a spectacular increase in gun buying over here as well. So I understand both your concern and behaviour.

I do notice however that a surpisingly large part of gun buying in the US is Home or Self- defence oriented. That makes me wonder if everyday life in American society is that much more threatening than over here, or if maybe the average citizen is pretty much left to his own device, security-wise.
 
Well, the laws here make it really hard for cops to do their job. I understand the need to keep police from wielding universal powers... but somewhere in the mix things just aint right.

Not many police departments have the manpower or budget to protect a woman at home from her crazy ex 24-7

Yes, to a fair degree here in the states, some gun nuts can be a bit crazy, over analyzing the boogie man coming to get them... However, this is a freaking huge country and many people live a great distance from any help... and in the city seconds count...

Though I have never felt my life was threatened in a way to require a firearm for defense, it does feel good to know I have it if I need it...
 
Are Americans crazy for buiying up anything/everything they can get their hands on that's firearm related?

I understand why we are buying, but would like to hear the thought's from the rest of the world. What do people think of us? Good bad or otherwise.
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No not in any way. If i were in your position i would do exactly the same. Buy what i can get. When we had the discussion about banning shotguns after an rampage, the first thing i did was hurrying to a gun store an buy a Remington870. Finally i got 50% discount because the dealer was afraid of never selling the gun. :D
 
Funny....when my friend moved here from Sidney Australia he had the whole "cowboy" image in his head about the U.S. too.

He admitted.......too much Americanized T.V. and stereotypes.
 
More danger? YES

Hi Chriske,

according to statistics life in the USA is certainly more dangerous...in the sense of "danger by criminals".
I dont know the statistics for Belgium, but I compared the ratio of inmates (for violent crimes) per 100.000 inhabitants between Germany and the USA.
The USA "win" by a factor of about 9!
So yes, an US citizen is a lot more likely to find himself victim (or intended victim) of a violent crime.

Police statistics in Germany last year showed that during his/ her lifetime a German citizen has a chance of about 33% to be victim of a violent crime. So if you (I know, this is a bit rough on the rules of statistics, but acceptable for a "rule of thumb") multiply that 33%-chance with the factor 9 you see why US-people are VERY concerned about protection against criminals. (the other "real life", the political factor of guns stays unmentioned here....but sure has its validity: Just open any history book or search google for "tyranny").

(If anybody has more precise/ valid numbers on the subject of violent crime rates and the like please feel free to correct me or add those infos!)

Carsten
 
...living close to the red-light district, i thought about the difference last Weekend.

Just taking a 15min stroll going home at 3.a.m
would basically be suicide-waiting-to-happen
in any major american city area of the same nature.

Here i do not even turn around, just because someone
is walking 5 yards behind me.

As much as i enjoy outdoors AND guns/men-toys
i´m surely glad to live in a wayyyy safer environment.

Don´t get me wrong... different history... not comparable situations.
But i sure wouldn´t want to introduce the US gunlaws here.

Cheers from Hamburg,
Mp7
 
exactly

Hi Mp7,

I dont even know where to start with my comments on your post.

Cooling down I must say: If even gun-owners do follow the arguments and irrationality of the antis our gun-cause is lost in Germany.

Your statement implies:
1. Guns cause crimes.
2. Gun-ownership should be a privilege to a selected minority...why dont you suggest this privilege should be reserved to the old nobility? Or the SA?
3. Criminals obey laws. Gosh...
4. People in general cant be trusted with handling things in a responsible way. Why not give up the right to vote, too? Why not restrict driving cars to those who do enough bootlicking to get a license??

All in all: Those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither of the two.

Yeah, Germans are still good servants to whoever promises their safety and well-being?

Now will you please excuse me, I need to be sick....

Carsten
 
I'm a Canadian living in the US. I moved here from the Vancouver area in 1998.

I recently applied for and received my AFL and CPL and I recently purchased a pistol, which I now carry with me almost everywhere I go. I don't feel or act like a cowboy, however I do feel like I have another option, should I find myself about to become a victim.

Having "lived in both worlds", I have come to the conclusion that it makes no sense to restrict honest citizens from owning guns. As most people here probably know, the only people allowed to carry guns in Canada are police, military and trappers (not even security guards can carry guns), yet there have been 20 murders and 33 shootings in the Greater Vancouver region this year alone (as of March 11th - probably more now).
recent story here: http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1374407

The argument that reducing the amount of guns in the population will reduce violent crime is a warm fuzzy idealistic pipe dream.

Criminals will always have access to guns. Preventing or restricting honest citizens from owning them to protect themselves only ensures the criminals have the advantage.
 
I do notice however that a surpisingly large part of gun buying in the US is Home or Self- defence oriented. That makes me wonder if everyday life in American society is that much more threatening than over here, or if maybe the average citizen is pretty much left to his own device, security-wise.
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Yes, it's a bit more threatening; yes, many of us are more "on our own" than in other places (due to both geography--we have a lot lower population density than most of the rest of the world, so law-enforcement response times are higher--and due to court rulings that the police have no legal duty to protect us); and further because we realize that the first bans that will go into effect will be against firearms that are particularly suited for self-defense. Since we have less cause to worry about purely "sporting" arms, we're buying the categories of arms most under threat now.
 
100% with carsten1911 here !

gun rights should not be a privilege !

Before the 1789 Revolution in France, only nobles and church people could "bear" arms.

today, only government personel and some privilegiate people..

is this right ? sure not..

We made a big step back after a huge step forward .
 
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ps: buying guns is good.. Joining the NRA is better.. think about it !

(A non US member, that joined with his father, to help)
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Shung, du bist mein Held!

Tuner, I'd wager a guess that you've never lived outside of the US. I've lived for 6 years in Singapore and in Germany and can assure you that your perception of what the world thinks of America has been skewed by the mass media. You need to turn off the TV and engage these folks personally. You'll find that MOST foreigners are not anti-American.
 
Nice post,

As a South African,I personally back the American(conservative) way 100% regarding most issues,especially gun rights.If I could by guns as freely as Americans in conservative states,I would.Boer culture shares many similarities with cowboy culture.

I love the USA and have a particular liking for Colorado,Kansas,Wyoming and Oklahoma.Every year I visit the Buffalo Bill Gravesite and museum in Golden.I was really proud to read an account W.F. Cody gave of the "brave" boers and their skill in his circus with regard horses and rifles!

I am a "gun nut" and although I love my country,should our government ever deny me the right to legally carry and use firearms for self defence,I will sell up here and immediately move to a part of America,where my right to bear and carry is unrestricted.

I like to think of myself as a cowboy too,South African style!
 
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