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I've open carried 3 times and they were all none issue. One kid even walked by me and near eye level with my gun and his eyes didn't even move to it, I was suprised about that!
Right. I see that in most state laws. But then I see many comments, some of them in this thread right here that say something like " well I can do it except in this city or that, or I don't because I'm always getting called in MWAG etc..." That is why I started this thread. I can see the legal print authorizing OC, but I don't know how it plays out in real life. I have been pleasantly surprised by the large number of folks here that can OC hassle free. Including you. OCing an AK takes the OC thing to a new level. I really wish I could get away with that here.mortablunt: To be sarcastically literal, all I need to do it grab a gun and a sling or holster, and then step out the door with it.
This is speaking on both sides of the same mouth. The US SC has been acting within the powers given to them by the Constitution; the same Constitution that contains the 2nd amendment.I was just making the point that I think it is wrong for any branch of a state government to limit constitutional rights just because their state constitution says they can. And yes, I know that some of the S.C. decisions indicate otherwise, and I suppose that this is what lawmakers are using as a basis to restrict rights. I personally think that the S.C. decisions are misinterpreting the 2nd amendment. But I guess that my personal views don't carry as much weight as the S.C.
Sure. Just a slightly humorous observation on my partThe Constitution is designed to prefer the decisions of the US SC over yours regarding what is constitutional.
True, but lets say the SC decided that a law requiring all African-Americans to carry a special ID to be allowed to vote did not violate the 15th amendment. Is that ruling constitutional? Well a ruling of the SC would make it seem so. But is it really in the spirit of the law? No. Is it really UNconstitutional? Yes. Even though the SC says its OK doesn't make it right. Technically its OK maybe, but the vast majority of Americans would disagree with the SC.This is speaking on both sides of the same mouth. The US SC has been acting within the powers given to them by the Constitution; the same Constitution that contains the 2nd amendment.
Yeah if we get it legalized here I might OC on occasion, but I will mainly do CC. Of course, the guys that want to OC should have the right to do so. OC will mainly benefit me if the wind blows open my jacket/gun prints etc.I have a CPL & have no interest in open carry.
SB1108, which allows concealed carry without a permit, was signed in by Gov. Jan Brewer not too long ago. I personally think this is a terrible idea. Many people who buy a hand gun don't have prior knowledge, but just want to be "protected." Don't misconstrue this, but people need to be introduced to gun law if they want to carry. Its like giving a license to someone who has never driven. Knowledge is a far more powerful tool than the pistol.
I certainly see your point. It is a valid point and it is the primary concern of many lawmakers here.SB1108, which allows concealed carry without a permit, was signed in by Gov. Jan Brewer not too long ago. I personally think this is a terrible idea. Many people who buy a hand gun don't have prior knowledge, but just want to be "protected." Don't misconstrue this, but people need to be introduced to gun law if they want to carry. Its like giving a license to someone who has never driven. Knowledge is a far more powerful tool than the pistol
AUGA1 said:SB1108, which allows concealed carry without a permit, was signed in by Gov. Jan Brewer not too long ago. I personally think this is a terrible idea. Many people who buy a hand gun don't have prior knowledge, but just want to be "protected." Don't misconstrue this, but people need to be introduced to gun law if they want to carry. Its like giving a license to someone who has never driven. Knowledge is a far more powerful tool than the pistol.
There is no evidence to suggest that there is any increase in danger or incidents due to no training required in the states that don't require it.