Raging Judge

[RX-178]

Clarification to prevent misunderstanding:

The Raging Judge does not fire .454 Casull. It is a 7-shot .410/.45LC ONLY.

The Raging Judge MAGNUM does fire .454 Casull, and it has a 6-shot cylinder.

 

[General Geoff]

Thank you for the clarification, RX-178! That makes a lot more sense.

So who wants to call Taurus to ask if it's safe to fire .460 through the Raging Judge Magnum?

 

[Dain Bramage]

Doesn't Freedom Arms recommend against firing .45 Colt in their .454 Casull cylinders? Something about the .45 chamber ring not being good for the high pressure .454? FA may only be trying to sell spare .45 cylinders, but there's something worrying about mix-and-matching three different rounds without scrupulous cleaning inbetween.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

You can never have too many comically large handguns

Lol, new sig line!

Doesn't Freedom Arms recommend against firing .45 Colt in their .454 Casull cylinders? Something about the .45 chamber ring not being good for the high pressure .454? FA may only be trying to sell spare .45 cylinders, but there's something worrying about mix-and-matching three different rounds without scrupulous cleaning inbetween

Yes, this is an issue with ALL .454 and .460 revolvers. I don't do it. .454 only (or .454 cases with .45 colt-ish loads).

The Raging Judge does not fire .454 Casull. It is a 7-shot .410/.45LC ONLY.

The Raging Judge MAGNUM does fire .454 Casull, and it has a 6-shot cylinder

OK, that makes sense. But we've STILL gone from 5 shots to 6 in the .454 Raging Bull, haven't we? Mine is only 5. Does anyone else do a 6 shot .454? How many does the X frame smith hold in .460?

I'm nearly certain that the 460 S&W will not fit the cylinder unless they want it to. A 454 Casull will not fit a regular Judge. There's a lip in the cylinder just past the end of the 45 Colt brass reducing the cylinder diameter to bullet diameter (about .452). You can't fit 460 brass in a 452 hole.

Ahhh, so I see. What's the width of the outside of the .410 shotshell case?

 

[mgkdrgn]

the guy in the video contradicts whats in Taurus's catalog. The ultra lite Judge was a 7 shot 45LC/410ga not a 454.

Umm, I have a Judge Ultralite ... and it's only 5.

 

[ahpd1992]

What I dont understand is why mess w/ the whole 410 thing at all. Why not make a raging bull that shoots 460, 454, 45LC, the 410 shell doesnt do a whole lot out of a rifled barrel from everything I have read.

I suppose it wouldnt sell as well as something in the "Judge" lineup

 

[suemarkp]

Ahhh, so I see. What's the width of the outside of the .410 shotshell case?

The brass part of a 410 shell is about .470. The plastic part is around .450 to .460 -- the ones I measured weren't very concentric.

The brass diameter of a 45/454/460 cartridge is around .480.

 

[Nasty]

They ought to make a 5 shot 20ga judge.

The only reason I can think of that would make any sense would be for *fun* shooting at the garbage dump at rats. What a blast *that* would be!

 

[Dimis]

haha Nasty if your going for it just go... lets get a three shot 12Ga lol

ok seriously these things will sell just like the original judge if for nothing more than novelty

i wouldnt use .454 in anything smaller than a ruger but thats just me

and Tadd the 460 X frame is a 5 shot

 

[Evil One]

I wonder how far this version will toss the barrel down the firing range...


Jim

 

[alienbogey]

I'd be too embarrassed by the name alone to own one.

 

[Dimis]

ROFLMAO evil one

alien it could be worse i can think of at least one thing worse than judge to follow the word "Raging"

 

[John Wayne]

No thanks. If I want something in .454, I want it to be well-made, and not a Taurus.

And if I ever want to lug a boat anchor around to kill snakes, I expect a .454/.460/.475/.480/.500 casing will hold plenty of shot to do just that.

 

[Seancass]

What I dont understand is why mess w/ the whole 410 thing at all

It's called a gimmick. The Judge is as useless a firearm can possibly be, and yet they are selling. As long as they're selling, they're going to keep making more and more of them. Especially when people think .410 is a good self-defense round.

They ought to make a 5 shot 20ga judge.

Now THAT i would be all over. Except that it'd be a destructive device.

 

[MCgunner]

Pray that for some reason .460 doesn't fit. If it does, that'll be one BIG kaboom.

The .454 nor the .460 will fit in current judges. Why would they fit the RAGING hard..uh...judge? You'd have to bore the cylinders a little deeper. I can't fit a .460 in my Contender barrel, either. If I could, I'd let YOU try it first. Actually, I like the gun, wouldn't do it, just sayin'.

 

[HisDivineShadow]

The Raging Judge is so called because after you've used one of those in self defence that's what you're gonna be facing.

 

[ljnowell]

It's called a gimmick. The Judge is as useless a firearm can possibly be, and yet they are selling

Why is there a double standard of "practical and usefull" when it applies to the judge? Some guns are just plain for fun, and nothing else. No one whines about something being useless when its a guy buying a 10" barreled 500Mag. That gun has no practical purpose either, but it makes the owner happy. I think that the bashing of the judge is 50% because its made by taurus, 40% because its cool to agree and hate it because other people do, and 10% because people dont like it. Someone apparently likes them, because they sell very well.

 

[Evil One]

Actually... a 10 inch .500Mag is a GREAT hunting pistol...
It was designed for hunting so it has a purpose and serves it VERY well.


Jim

 

[ljnowell]

Actually... a 10 inch .500Mag is a GREAT hunting pistol...
It was designed for hunting so it has a purpose and serves it VERY well.


Jim

Yeah, and most people dont. Its a false standard that every gun has to have a "purpose". Why cant fun be a purpose. I understand the advertising as a self defense gun as silly, but we all know that. Why does every mention of it have to be running it down because it doesnt have a purpose?

 

[General Geoff]

I understand the advertising as a self defense gun as silly, but we all know that. Why does every mention of it have to be running it down because it doesnt have a purpose?

Fun/recreation certainly is a valid purpose (otherwise, half of the firearms chambered for .22lr out there would be a joke, i.e. Sig 522). And you might think using a 500 S&W Magnum for self defense is silly, but tell that to John Ross.

 

[MCgunner]

Hey, don't dis the .22. I've taken a lot of bushy tails with it and more'n a few bunnies. Actually, I hunt with and carry .22s in the field more than I do center fire rounds. My favorite big game handgun is a scoped .30-30 barrel on my Contender, but when it's May squirrel season in east Texas, the scoped match .22LR barrel goes on. I don't bother with the .410 barrel. The .22 will take 'em to 50 yards in the tops of pine trees.

 

[ljnowell]

Fun/recreation certainly is a valid purpose (otherwise, half of the firearms chambered for .22lr out there would be a joke, i.e. Sig 522). And you might think using a 500 S&W Magnum for self defense is silly, but tell that to John Ross.

I know a guy in missouri that carries a 500 snub every day. I wouldn't but thats his business. I just always laugh when someone starts the "it serves no purpose" argument. Who cares, if it makes a smile, it served a purpose.