Doublehelix......I like my little G-42 for the summer, but even TEN rds...of 9mm! VS 7 or 8 rds of .380 acp !!! HUGE difference there.
I have NEVER felt well armed with the three eighty ,no matter the ammo.
Doublehelix......I like my little G-42 for the summer, but even TEN rds...of 9mm! VS 7 or 8 rds of .380 acp !!! HUGE difference there.
I have NEVER felt well armed with the three eighty ,no matter the ammo.
We think alike. I love my XDs, too, but 11 or (gasp!) 13 rounds as opposed to 6! While I also love the 230-gr HST, I'm also aware that (1) there's no such thing as a sure 1-shot stop, (2) I'm less able to tolerate recoil as I age, and (3) there is an increasing likelihood of facing multiple threats in today's world. Yeah, I'll almost certainly go with the P365 for EDC once I become more familiar with it and mount a laser on it.Did I mention that I love my P938??? But 12 rounds. Dang.
Growing up with six or seven rounds (1911/revolver,) and feeling well armed, the P-365 with 10+1 rounds of 9MM with the latest JHPs feels like an ammo dump. And 12+1? I might swoon.
Ask and ye shall receive: Sig P365 with 11 rounds of 124-gr Sig JHPs -- 23.17 oz. FWIW, my fully loaded XDs weighs 26.91 oz (albeit with a CT Green Laser).Could someone with a Sig and a scale weigh the gun with a ten round magazine and one in the chamber?
Ask and ye shall receive: Sig P365 with 11 rounds of 124-gr Sig JHPs -- 23.17 oz. FWIW, my fully loaded XDs weighs 26.91 oz (albeit with a CT Green Laser).
Agreed, I was quite happy with seven rounds for decades, but saying that, 10+1 rounds of quality 9MM ammo in such a small package is very appealing.I understand that there are many that are excited about a higher round count in a small gun. But not sure all the general public or shooters actually think that having two or three rounds more is that necessary.
Sure, no problem. Upper assembly: 12.06 oz. Slide assembly (minus barrel & recoil springs/guide rod): 8.99 oz.And if you do not mind, could you also weight the receiver, with recoil spring, guide rod and barrel.
Agreed, I was quite happy with seven rounds for decades, but saying that, 10+1 rounds of quality 9MM ammo in such a small package is very appealing.
If I take my box with my XDm OSP with three spare mags plus one in the gun on a road trip I have no excuse not to shoot my way out of anything unless I am not capable or it was hopeless to begin with.
Fact is though, most gunfights use way less that 10 or 11 rounds. Still 10+1 in this package is appealing, even to old farts like me who never stressed mag capacity over the years, but instead focused on situational awareness, and the mindset (Willingness to start with) and ability to put a round or two where needed under stress without hesitation which will get you killed.
I am a 1911 lover (Fanatic?), who started shooting them almost 45 years ago (First handgun was a Remington Rand), but I do love this little P-365.
I'm calling mine good to go. I put another 100 rounds through it today, loading and firing as fast as I could, trying to induce a malfunction. It ran perfectly. I have 500 rounds through it with the only malfunctions being failing to go into battery 3 times yesterday because I was riding the slide, something Sig tells you not to do in bold print in the instruction manual. I normally shoot at a steel target at our gun club but an injury limits how much weight I can lift for now, so I was shooting at milk cartons. I was hitting them consistently from 25 yards and was happy with the accuracy.
I ran another 50 or 60 rds through mine yesterday. So I'm up to 210+ rds , ALL without issue. Going to shoot/crono some carry ammo next few days and call it GTG.
My take on the 3656 and all of these micro nines is; they have put the 9mm into the smallest package they can. A package that is taking a beating with each shot. I consider my 365 the same way I do an S&W J frame; Built to be carried a lot...Shot a little.
I don't think these guys are DESIGNED to be shot tens of thousands of rds. Run three or four hundred rds through the gun and call it good.
I Can't speak for the Sig. Really do not know what the build quality is. However, I would totally disagree that your CCW gun no matter what it is should be shot little. On the contrary, I shoot mine a frequently. Each week. This is your life your are talking about. One reason why you choose your firearm wisely. To train often a diligently. I only CCW guns that I know are built like a tank and will handle a lot of ammo down range. (And I am talking about sub-compact guns) Small guns do take a beating. And some are frankly made cheaper with Aluminum sub chassis, cheaper steel etc.
Hopefully, if the Beast does raise his head, Pray that he trains less than you do.
For you guy's that do not know what metals are used for the Sig, here you go. I would say based on this, you have a high quality gun meant for a lot of ammo down range.
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I Can't speak for the Sig. Really do not know what the build quality is. However, I would totally disagree that your CCW gun no matter what it is should be shot little. On the contrary, I shoot mine a frequently. Each week. This is your life your are talking about. One reason why you choose your firearm wisely. To train often a diligently. I only CCW guns that I know are built like a tank and will handle a lot of ammo down range. (And I am talking about sub-compact guns) Small guns do take a beating. And some are frankly made cheaper with Aluminum sub chassis, cheaper steel etc.
Hopefully, if the Beast does raise his head, Pray that he trains less than you do.
Ain't that the truth. Facebook is a disgusting place now, and the things people say and call each other on topics like this astounds me.There is a local forum that I participate in as well, and it is amazing how hostile the responses can get around the P365.
My take on the 365 and all of these micro nines is; they have put the 9mm into the smallest package they can. A package that is taking a beating with each shot. I consider my 365 the same way I do an S&W J frame; Built to be carried a lot...Shot a little.
I don't think these guys are DESIGNED to be shot tens of thousands of rds. Run three or four hundred rds through the gun and call it good.