You should be able to load birdshot capsules into your 45 Colt to get you through the .410 squeeze.Yeppers, me too. I've been wanting a Bond Arms derringer chambered for 45 Colt and .410 shotgun for a while now, but I won't buy one until .410 shotgun ammo becomes available again. I can (and will) build the 45 Colt ammo myself, but I've never loaded shotgun ammo of any flavor, and really don't want to get into it if I can avoid it.
I am getting kind of worried about the situation though. We have a .410 shotgun for pests in the garden sitting by the back door, and I'm becoming concerned about how much longer I can feed it.
Reasons we find to not buy some firearms, not to include brand
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.410 ammo is hard to find. I was looking for buck for my Bond Derringer and only one place had buck, so I got several boxes of the #4 buck, but just pulled up the site and they are currently out of stock. Game shot seemed to be a bit more available..Yeppers, me too. I've been wanting a Bond Arms derringer chambered for 45 Colt and .410 shotgun for a while now, but I won't buy one until .410 shotgun ammo becomes available again. I can (and will) build the 45 Colt ammo myself, but I've never loaded shotgun ammo of any flavor, and really don't want to get into it if I can avoid it.
I am getting kind of worried about the situation though. We have a .410 shotgun for pests in the garden sitting by the back door, and I'm becoming concerned about how much longer I can feed it.
BJung
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Old Dog
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Don't forget the obligatory man-bun.
After a brief flirtation with the short magnums, I came up with the same conclusion.
Arkansas Paul
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I certainly agree for the most part.
I feel like the only one that has anything going for it is the .270 WSM, and that's only because of the limited options for magnum rounds in .277 caliber.
The .270 Weatherby Mag is the only other one I know of and paying $4-$5 a round isn't an option for most folks.
The others are certainly solutions to non-existent problems.
theotherwaldo
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-Any non-pistol round that calls itself a Magnum... .
SwampWolf
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And for some, that act alone will make you a "nut in Court". Welcome to nutsvill in 21st century America.
SwampWolf
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Wow! After reading all the pet peeves and feature "hates" some people nurse, I never realized how open-minded I am about guns...which isn't to say that I have any love for impressed checkering, big-looped lever guns, "Cobra-styled" rifle slings, white spacers on rifle stocks and goofy shaped trigger guards. 
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Old Dog
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Perhaps there's a generational thing involved, too -- maybe some of us older folk got too used to quality manufacturing, hand-fitting, polishing and classic designs (I love a schnabel or a Mannlicher foreend on a Model 70 or other iconic rifle, for example). Now that you mention it, I don't like cobra slings or any kind of spacers on rifle stocks myself.Wow! After reading all the pet peeves and feature "hates" some people nurse, I never realized how open-minded I am about guns...which isn't to say that I have any love for impressed checkering, big-looped lever guns, "Cobra-styled" rifle slings, white spacers on rifle stocks and goofy shaped trigger guards.
White line spacers, "ventilated" recoil pads, vented ribs on anything but a shotgun, muddy stock finish, and sheet metal sights always put me off, but most can be fixed if the gun warrants it.
OrangePwrx9
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A gun in a caliber I don't already reload for.
Smokin Gator
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If I found a gun that I really wanted at a decent price I wouldn't let a fiber optic front sight prevent me from buying it. They can be changed.
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Most of the reasons given are a non issue to me. If there is a gun I have on my list then it is on my list....and most of the things talked about are not an issue if it has made it to the list. I just don't care.
For me not buying comes down to where I am personally at the moment I find the item. Money is usually not an issue, it usually comes down to "is it the smart thing to do now". And currently the answer is no not really.
Most of what I am interested in is old, yea it is a gun but a martini henry is of very little use outside of a toy. Ammo costs, yea right not even a thing, I don't even think about brass costs.
So for me really it is a mental thing.
Just last weekend I walked away from one of the things I have been looking for years for, if I bought it that would bring pistol caliber carbines down to one needed. It was a nice example, good shape, and a bit hard to find. Guy had a good price on it as well that 2 years ago I would have snagged the sec I saw it....he said make me an offer.....I have the money, but it is just not the smart thing to do now.
I may kick myself later, usually do.....but I think it is the correct decision.
For me not buying comes down to where I am personally at the moment I find the item. Money is usually not an issue, it usually comes down to "is it the smart thing to do now". And currently the answer is no not really.
Most of what I am interested in is old, yea it is a gun but a martini henry is of very little use outside of a toy. Ammo costs, yea right not even a thing, I don't even think about brass costs.
So for me really it is a mental thing.
Just last weekend I walked away from one of the things I have been looking for years for, if I bought it that would bring pistol caliber carbines down to one needed. It was a nice example, good shape, and a bit hard to find. Guy had a good price on it as well that 2 years ago I would have snagged the sec I saw it....he said make me an offer.....I have the money, but it is just not the smart thing to do now.
I may kick myself later, usually do.....but I think it is the correct decision.
Oh, I think I forgot one thing: Mannlicher stocks. Never owned one, probably never will. I just plain old don't like the way they look.
I know the OP said - not brand - but - I believe I have a valid reason to own S&W revolvers only - no Ruger or Colt or Dan Wesson.
The S&W cylinder rotates counter clockwise and the cylinder release is activated by pushing it toward the front &/or in addition, they use a flat blade spring. I made that decision when I bought my first D/A revolver.
The S&W cylinder rotates counter clockwise and the cylinder release is activated by pushing it toward the front &/or in addition, they use a flat blade spring. I made that decision when I bought my first D/A revolver.
Shanghai McCoy
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Well the other day my buddy and I were looking at a rifle at a store and he says, "My wife would cut off my b@#%s if I bought that and brought it home." So, I guess that's a reason to not buy..?
(Course my reply was "Dude, if you're saying that she already has...")
(Course my reply was "Dude, if you're saying that she already has..."
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.308 Norma
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Stocks (grips), metal finishes, and in many cases even the chamberings can be changed. What's your point?
Don't you get it? I've never "really wanted" (as you put it) a gun with a fiber optic sight.
gwpercle
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The Main reason I don't buy more firearms is most of my life I've suffered from that Hawaiian Disorder ... LakkaMonie . ( lack of money )
Guns , fancy grips , nice leather ... I'm hopelessly addicted and would blow every cent I had if my wife didn't help me ... though most times I get away with highway robbery she keeps us out the poor house .
Gary
Guns , fancy grips , nice leather ... I'm hopelessly addicted and would blow every cent I had if my wife didn't help me ... though most times I get away with highway robbery she keeps us out the poor house .
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.308 Norma
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If you've seen many of my other posts, you'd know that my "LakkaMonie" disorder is partly due to the fact my wife is as "hopelessly addicted" to guns, shooting and hunting as I am. We have to "help" one another. If we didn't, WE would "blow every cent" we had on guns and shooting stuff. And then we'd have to buy more gun safes to store more guns, and then we'd have to buy a bigger house to put more gun safes in, and then.......
There is an end to it though. My wife and I are both in our 70s now, and I'm wearing a heart monitor (which is why I couldn't go pheasant hunting on Thanksgiving morning like I always have
) so we're starting to divvy up our guns amongst kids and grandkids.
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Smokin Gator
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My point is that depending on the price and availability of a gun you do want you might get a better deal by buying a gun and just changing the front sight to what you want. If it's an easily available gun you might wait to find the right one. If it's a hard to find gun you might do better buying it and making the change.
.308 Norma
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Gotcha. But my point is I've never "really wanted" a gun that had a fiber optic front sight. I've have bought a handgun or two over the years that I knew the first thing I was going to do with them was change the stocks (the "grips"), but that's as far as I'm going to go.
That seems like it should be okay with you. If I won't buy handguns with fiber optic front sights, and you will, it leaves more for you.
Smokin Gator
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Gotcha. But my point is I've never "really wanted" a gun that had a fiber optic front sight. I've have bought a handgun or two over the years that I knew the first thing I was going to do with them was change the stocks (the "grips"), but that's as far as I'm going to go.
That seems like it should be okay with you. If I won't buy handguns with fiber optic front sights, and you will, it leaves more for you.
That's fine. You're just limiting youself to a smaller number of available guns.
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Old Dog
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They're an acquired taste... I used to hate 'em, then a buddy showed me some beautiful CZ rifles with Mannlicher stocks and for whatever reason (after handling and shooting) I started liking the look.
I used to think gun-owners were a fussy and finicky lot, different tastes, strong opinions and a weird obsession about often minute cosmetic details on a gun that rendered it loathed by some, adored by others. Now I appreciate how gun owners are such a diverse lot.
.308 Norma
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Good grief. What is it with you? Is it that there just aren't enough "available guns" where you live to make you happy, so you think everyone should compromise and buy guns that have features they don't like if those features can easily be changed?
I have all of the guns I want right now, pal. And if, in the future I get to wanting another one, I know I'll be able to find one I "really like."
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