reloading & accuracy with pulled de-mil'ed bullets?

[y5e06]

I've been shooting a bunch more rifle reloads lately. I'd like to reduce costs for plinking and have been seriously considering using pulled/de-militarized projectiles and powder.
for example, bullets:
http://www.ammunitionstore.com/pricelist_reloading_supplies.htm
specifically

.223
FMJ 55gr. New production
Picture & Information R022.9

FMJ 55gr. Surplus, pulled bullets
Picture & Information R022.5

308
Win. FMJ 147gr. Military surplus projectiles
Picture & Information R014.4

30-06 FMJ 150gr. New, Yugoslavian mfg.
Picture & Information R016

or
http://www.rvow.com/surplus bullets.htm
M855, 5.56mm Ball 3137
M2 Ball, .308 Caliber 3105


using powder along the lines of this
http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8969&dir=278|283|313


load work-ups & fine tuning aspects aside,
what kind of results can I really expect? Is it worth it to try these?
I'd be using the .308/30-06 in a K31 and maybe sporter 03A3 and .223 in an AR.

I'd like to give it a try if I can get decent results but may not be worth the expense if it will be mediocre at best. Right now I predominately use H4895 and various hornady bullets. but I'm real interested in this.
Anyone w/ 1st hand experience going this route?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Military FMJBT bullets are about the most inaccurate bullet design mankind has yet devised.......BEFORE getting pulled repackaged and loaded a second time.

About the only good things to be said for such bullets is A: they're cheap and B:most of the time they go in the general direction of downrange.

I've used them in the past and found such bullets to be a complete waste of the ability to handload

 

[angus6]

Good luck with your bullet links:banghead:
Dial the ammuintionstore phone # and do a search on RVOW

 

[USSR]

No problem using milsurp powder to develop accurate, yet cheaper loads (I won 3 matches this year using milsurp IMR4895), but you will never find accurate loads with milsurp bullets.

Don

 

[Slamfire]

I hit a sweet spot with these 150 Grain Hornady FMJ's. All groups at 100 yards.



This is 1968 WRA Ball. Not very accurate




This is new, not pulled 147 grain IMI FMJBT's. Awful

 

[Lonely Raven]

Great examples!

 

[freakshow10mm]

Damn I wish I had $2600 laying around. Less than 3 cents each for .224 55gr FMJ at 100K.

 

[y5e06]

ah, well not good news on the pulled bullets then. I suppose thats why they're so cheap... no one really wants them.
What got me started on 'em was seeing the Wideners listings for these 145 & 168grain'ers
http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7239&dir=278|281|727
http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8440&dir=278|281|727

.223 http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7436&dir=278|281|727

any idea about these for new production?

 

[USSR]

The Widener's 168gr bullets are commercially made, not milsurp or pulled. I believe they are made in a Eastern European country, and cannot speak as to their quality. The 145gr bullets look like CBC milsurp pulls, of which I have shot many. They are of simply "plinking" quality.

Don

 

[dardascastbullets]

Hi y5e06,

Your post brings back memories of when I first started out shooting highpower on a shoestring. I was fortunate to have many great shooting buddies that were well versed in what to use and where to get it. We shot military .308 150 grain FMJBT's and surplus powder for many years with great success. X ring groups at 200 yards were great for our practice sessions (which were many in a week's time). We shot tens of thousands of pulled bullets and hundreds of pounds of surplus powder.

So, I highly recommend that you use your resources and you will have a great time on the shooting range!

 

[bullseye308]

http://www.rvow.com/surplus bullets.htm

I wouldn't send them a penny, you may not get it back. Search this company out on this forum and others. The old man died and the wife tried to keep it ging. 2 year+ shipping time was not unheard of.

 

[angus6]

y5e06 for plinking pulled are just fine , last ones I got were 5k@$245 a few months back , give Dan or Steve a shout as thats the best place I've found for them

 

[ranger335v]

"load work-ups & fine tuning aspects aside, what kind of results can I really expect? Is it worth it to try these? I'd be using the .308/30-06 in a K31 and maybe sporter 03A3 and .223 in an AR."


Well, lessee. The .308/30-06 will shoot mil FMJ into 1 13/16" groups in the K31, but 5/8" in the 03A3! The .223 in a Colt AR will shoot 1 3/8" but 1 7/8" in all other AR types. Unless they are different.


Naw, just funning ya! Except the "different" part anyway.